Media and Falloojeh...

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Ok, so you are saying that she is lying? I hate this "i am implying but i will never say it" kinda bs and quite frankly i am surprised to see you say it.

No, I'm saying that there are two sides to every story. If you refuse to think as much, then the only thing I can say is: Das ist mir doch scheiss egal.

Of course there is another side to the story, but the issue was how SHE saw it, to say that others see it differently doesn't really make any sense, especially not when you consider that she is in her hometown and that many of the things she is saying has been said by plenty of other sources (civilian refugees, bombings and so on).

While we are on the subject of blogs, will you believe these Iraqi blogs?

Arab satellite channels reported today that Al-Mustansiriyah university was under siege by US troops. We have a neighbour who is a professor there, so as expected we raced to his house when we had heard about it. We congratulated him for his safety, but he looked significantly surprised and asked us what was up? We told him about the siege. He chuckled at us and said "Oh, you mean that". It turned out there was no siege at all, there was an American patrol in the vicinity of the university, and they had witnessed someone climbing on the clock tower trying to paste a large poster of Muqtada Al-Sadr. The patrol called for backup, entered the campus and hollered for the fellow to come down. They teared the poster and removed a few others close to the university's main entry gates. According to our friend, the whole process didn't take any more than 20 minutes. Just to show how the Arab media conveniently distort events.

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've been visiting the BBC Arabic site in the last few days and I found a forum where people from many Arab countries ?including Iraq- post their opinions about some hot topics, the main of those is Iraq and terrorism of course. I wasn't surprised to see that most Arabs (especially from Egypt, Palestine, Sudan, Saudi Arabia and Syria) are forming one side of the debates while Iraqis and people from the rest of the gulf countries are taking the other side. But I was surprised when I found that the almost all the Iraqis who took part in the debates are on our side, maybe 95% of Iraqis expressed their rejection to the violent behavior of some Iraqis and condemned the terrorists attacks on both Iraqis and the coalition saying that the Arab world must stop supporting the terrorists and the thugs from inside Iraq. It's also surprising that many of those Iraqis live in areas that are recognized to have a public anti American attitude in general like A'adhamiya, Diyala and Najaf. I feel that those people are still afraid to voice their points of view in public in such hostile atmospheres but the internet is providing them freedom and safety to say whatever they believe in.

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In Falluja there is evidence that at least 400 Arabs have been killed during the recent fighting, some of them have been named from Riyadh city. Some of the Arab insurgents in Falluja have got married to local women. Some others used the Missyar marriage which is a kind of marriage they legalise for themselves when they travel to another area! It is a marriage always ends with divorce agreed right from the beginning! This is new kind of marriage and its name well explained that its origin is Saudi.

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[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Ok, so you are saying that she is lying? I hate this "i am implying but i will never say it" kinda bs and quite frankly i am surprised to see you say it.

No, I'm saying that there are two sides to every story. If you refuse to think as much, then the only thing I can say is: Das ist mir doch scheiss egal.

Of course there is another side to the story, but the issue was how SHE saw it, to say that others see it differently doesn't really make any sense, especially not when you consider that she is in her hometown and that many of the things she is saying has been said by plenty of other sources (civilian refugees, bombings and so on).

While we are on the subject of blogs, will you believe these Iraqi blogs?

Arab satellite channels reported today that Al-Mustansiriyah university was under siege by US troops. We have a neighbour who is a professor there, so as expected we raced to his house when we had heard about it. We congratulated him for his safety, but he looked significantly surprised and asked us what was up? We told him about the siege. He chuckled at us and said "Oh, you mean that". It turned out there was no siege at all, there was an American patrol in the vicinity of the university, and they had witnessed someone climbing on the clock tower trying to paste a large poster of Muqtada Al-Sadr. The patrol called for backup, entered the campus and hollered for the fellow to come down. They teared the poster and removed a few others close to the university's main entry gates. According to our friend, the whole process didn't take any more than 20 minutes. Just to show how the Arab media conveniently distort events.

Link

've been visiting the BBC Arabic site in the last few days and I found a forum where people from many Arab countries ?including Iraq- post their opinions about some hot topics, the main of those is Iraq and terrorism of course. I wasn't surprised to see that most Arabs (especially from Egypt, Palestine, Sudan, Saudi Arabia and Syria) are forming one side of the debates while Iraqis and people from the rest of the gulf countries are taking the other side. But I was surprised when I found that the almost all the Iraqis who took part in the debates are on our side, maybe 95% of Iraqis expressed their rejection to the violent behavior of some Iraqis and condemned the terrorists attacks on both Iraqis and the coalition saying that the Arab world must stop supporting the terrorists and the thugs from inside Iraq. It's also surprising that many of those Iraqis live in areas that are recognized to have a public anti American attitude in general like A'adhamiya, Diyala and Najaf. I feel that those people are still afraid to voice their points of view in public in such hostile atmospheres but the internet is providing them freedom and safety to say whatever they believe in.

Link

In Falluja there is evidence that at least 400 Arabs have been killed during the recent fighting, some of them have been named from Riyadh city. Some of the Arab insurgents in Falluja have got married to local women. Some others used the Missyar marriage which is a kind of marriage they legalise for themselves when they travel to another area! It is a marriage always ends with divorce agreed right from the beginning! This is new kind of marriage and its name well explained that its origin is Saudi.

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No need to be rude, you COULD have read my ENTIRE post, it wasn't even that long, was it?

"Of course there is another side to the story, but the issue was how SHE saw it, to say that others see it differently doesn't really make any sense, especially not when you consider that she is in her hometown and that many of the things she is saying has been said by plenty of other sources (civilian refugees, bombings and so on)."

Did you notice that "Of course there is another side to the story, but the issue was how SHE saw it" bit? Of course you did, but it didn't fit in in your bashing of me, so you left that out, either that or you have a bad case of ADD.

You can post as much as you want, it doesn't matter, she sees it the way SHE sees it.

And THAT, burnedout, is what this thread is about, no matter how many languages you say that you don't give a sh!t in.

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

And THAT, burnedout, is what this thread is about, no matter how many languages you say that you don't give a sh!t in.

Na und?

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: Klixxer

And THAT, burnedout, is what this thread is about, no matter how many languages you say that you don't give a sh!t in.

Na und?

Versteht ihr das wirklich nicht, oder wollt ihr einfach nicht verstehen?

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: Klixxer

And THAT, burnedout, is what this thread is about, no matter how many languages you say that you don't give a sh!t in.

Na und?

Versteht ihr das wirklich nicht, oder wollt ihr einfach nicht verstehen?

Neither. However, this is not the point. You have your view of the situation which apparently centers around a blog post. To this end, the blog post serves as a vehicle to criticize the United States. Such rhetoric is fine with me.

Read the following, read it well and don't you dare forget it. You can say whatever the hell you want about the U.S. President or American politics and I could care less.

But I will be damned if you or any of your fellow freaks on this board take cheap shots at U.S. troops while they are fighting.

Verstanden?

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: Klixxer

And THAT, burnedout, is what this thread is about, no matter how many languages you say that you don't give a sh!t in.

Na und?

Versteht ihr das wirklich nicht, oder wollt ihr einfach nicht verstehen?

Neither. However, this is not the point. You have your view of the situation which apparently centers around a blog post. To this end, the blog post serves as a vehicle to criticize the United States. Such rhetoric is fine with me.

Read the following, read it well and don't you dare forget it. You can say whatever the hell you want about the U.S. President or American politics and I could care less.

But I will be damned if you or any of your fellow freaks on this board take cheap shots at U.S. troops while they are fighting.

Verstanden?

No, you fail to understand it, yet again, if you take a reading comprehension class you might finally get it, this THREAD is about a blog post.

Have i, in any way, shape or form taken any cheap shots at the US troops? Of course not, you just had to pull SOMETHING out off your @ss to support your stupor.

Fellow freaks? Nice.

You are trying SO hard to find something to critizise me of that you bundle me with unnamed persons and call us freaks and say that we have taken cheap shots at the US troops, really, burnedout, that statement is PATHETIC.

You, and the likes of you are the moderators against anything you disagree with and the ones who don't want any other opinion than your very own to be heard.

Read the following and don't you dare forget it.

You seem like a spoiled brat who cannot stop others from speaking their mind when you want them to be quiet. I haven't spoken against US troops, if you knew more about me, you would know that i never would.

Understood?

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

No, you fail to understand it, yet again, if you take a reading comprehension class you might finally get it, this THREAD is about a blog post.

Yes, this thread is about a BLOG POST. WTF does the BLOG POST say?

Have i, in any way, shape or form taken any cheap shots at the US troops? Of course not, you just had to pull SOMETHING out off your @ss to support your stupor.

Bullshit. Had YOU accurately read my first post, then we wouldn't be having this idiotic discussion right now. Aber leider.

Fellow freaks? Nice.

Wenn schon, denn schon. Nicht wahr?

You are trying SO hard to find something to critizise me of that you bundle me with unnamed persons and call us freaks and say that we have taken cheap shots at the US troops, really, burnedout, that statement is PATHETIC.

Why in the hell are YOU trying so hard to criticize me?

You, and the likes of you are the moderators against anything you disagree with and the ones who don't want any other opinion than your very own to be heard.

WTF is wrong with YOU? Can't accept alternative opinion?

Read the following and don't you dare forget it.

You seem like a spoiled brat who cannot stop others from speaking their mind when you want them to be quiet. I haven't spoken against US troops, if you knew more about me, you would know that i never would.

Understood?

And you seem like a typical Berliner idiot, Understand? Ganz gut....

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: Klixxer

No, you fail to understand it, yet again, if you take a reading comprehension class you might finally get it, this THREAD is about a blog post.

Yes, this thread is about a BLOG POST. WTF does the BLOG POST say?

Have i, in any way, shape or form taken any cheap shots at the US troops? Of course not, you just had to pull SOMETHING out off your @ss to support your stupor.

Bullshit. Had YOU accurately read my first post, then we wouldn't be having this idiotic discussion right now. Aber leider.

Fellow freaks? Nice.

Wenn schon, denn schon. Nicht wahr?

You are trying SO hard to find something to critizise me of that you bundle me with unnamed persons and call us freaks and say that we have taken cheap shots at the US troops, really, burnedout, that statement is PATHETIC.

Why in the hell are YOU trying so hard to criticize me?

You, and the likes of you are the moderators against anything you disagree with and the ones who don't want any other opinion than your very own to be heard.

WTF is wrong with YOU? Can't accept alternative opinion?

Read the following and don't you dare forget it.

You seem like a spoiled brat who cannot stop others from speaking their mind when you want them to be quiet. I haven't spoken against US troops, if you knew more about me, you would know that i never would.

Understood?

And you seem like a typical Berliner idiot, Understand? Ganz gut....

You took a bit of a statement she made and commented on that, then you read the first two sentences of my post and ignored the rest where i agreed that there are two sides to every story. You were looking for a fight, where there really was none.

Yeah, i am a Berliner idiot, i am a freak, yet you are the one who picks random sentences that you can disagree with, bundle the poster with unnamed posters, calls him a freak and stuff words in his mouth about him bashing the US troops, words he never spoke.

I don't know what you call that, but in the forums and newsgroups i am accustomed to it is called trolling.

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

You took a bit of a statement she made and commented on that, then you read the first two sentences of my post and ignored the rest where i agreed that there are two sides to every story. You were looking for a fight, where there really was none.

Bull. YOU were looking for the fight.

Yeah, i am a Berliner idiot,

Einverstanden!

i am a freak

Zugegeben!

yet you are the one who picks random sentences that you can disagree with, bundle the poster with unnamed posters, calls him a freak and stuff words in his mouth about him bashing the US troops, words he never spoke.

And you are the one refusing to even comprehend the context or meaning of my message.

I don't know what you call that, but in the forums and newsgroups i am accustomed to it is called trolling.

And just what in the hell are you doing?

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: Klixxer

You took a bit of a statement she made and commented on that, then you read the first two sentences of my post and ignored the rest where i agreed that there are two sides to every story. You were looking for a fight, where there really was none.

Bull. YOU were looking for the fight.

Yeah, i am a Berliner idiot,

Einverstanden!

i am a freak

Zugegeben!

yet you are the one who picks random sentences that you can disagree with, bundle the poster with unnamed posters, calls him a freak and stuff words in his mouth about him bashing the US troops, words he never spoke.

And you are the one refusing to even comprehend the context or meaning of my message.

I don't know what you call that, but in the forums and newsgroups i am accustomed to it is called trolling.

And just what in the hell are you doing?

I did comprehend the context of your message, if you would have read my post stating "Of course there is another side to the story, but the issue was how SHE saw it" which you skipped you would have known that i didn't even express my own opinion on the matter, i just stated that it was HER opinion and that was the important part of it.

What am i doing? Defending myself for things you claim about me which i haven't said, answering your warnings about yet other things i have not said and trying to get you to understand that just because you choose not to read some words in a post does not mean that they are not there.

But it doesn't matter, your opinion about me means more to you than what i have said or will say, so i will ignore your posts in the future, i suggest you do the same with mine.

Good Night.

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Good Night.

Piß dahin.