[MMO] World of Tanks

[stag3]

haha ok i guess i'm not going down the line then, i originally planned to save up free xp until the nashorn then grind up but eh, why waste months of time grinding when i could get to the tier 9. i am grinding for the t57 heavy tho, i just hate how it's a light tank, then med then heavy, so your crew eats a penalty everytime it changes tank types

 

[Nintendesert]

haha ok i guess i'm not going down the line then, i originally planned to save up free xp until the nashorn then grind up but eh, why waste months of time grinding when i could get to the tier 9. i am grinding for the t57 heavy tho, i just hate how it's a light tank, then med then heavy, so your crew eats a penalty everytime it changes tank types

Yeah, it's a weird line. I'm at the T54E1 or whatever and about 150,000 in on the T57 Heavy. It's fun for a time but I'm taking a break to do the TDs and the Centurion 1, now that's a fun tank to play and the grind there isn't too bad.

Upgrades 14,000 and 16,000 xp in are much more tolerable than a fat 58,000 one. I need the carrot closer than that!

 

[Daverino]

The thing I hated most about the T57 line is that the standard penetration of most of the guns on that line is just terrible for its tier. Since they're all autoloaders, you're doomed if you have standard ammo loaded and run into something big. So in the end, you have to shoot a LOT of premium to make the tanks tolerable. The T69 used to have HEAT rounds with 300 penetration, making it a point-and-click tank for tier 8, but those got nerfed to 250 a few patches ago.

Either way, although the line itself was OK to play, it was expensive as hell. You'll need a premium tank to grind out credits to fund yourself in these tanks or you're going to be gimped regardless of how upgraded you are.

 

[Nintendesert]

The thing I hated most about the T57 line is that the standard penetration of most of the guns on that line is just terrible for its tier. Since they're all autoloaders, you're doomed if you have standard ammo loaded and run into something big. So in the end, you have to shoot a LOT of premium to make the tanks tolerable. The T69 used to have HEAT rounds with 300 penetration, making it a point-and-click tank for tier 8, but those got nerfed to 250 a few patches ago.

Either way, although the line itself was OK to play, it was expensive as hell. You'll need a premium tank to grind out credits to fund yourself in these tanks or you're going to be gimped regardless of how upgraded you are.

There's a couple lines of tanks in the game like that, it's intentional to compel people to spend more money in WOT.

 

[Possessed Freak]

haha ok i guess i'm not going down the line then, i originally planned to save up free xp until the nashorn then grind up but eh, why waste months of time grinding when i could get to the tier 9.

The Nashorn is a sweet TD. Seriously this whole line is not feeling like a "grind" to me (I did start at the Nashorn). But to each his own.

 

[Possessed Freak]

There's a couple lines of tanks in the game like that, it's intentional to compel people to spend more money in WOT.

Jesus, conspiracy theory much. Retrain the crew at 80% and it will be back to 100% in no time. Especially during the 3x weekends or the 2x crew training weekends.

 

[stag3]

Yeah, it's a weird line. I'm at the T54E1 or whatever and about 150,000 in on the T57 Heavy. It's fun for a time but I'm taking a break to do the TDs and the Centurion 1, now that's a fun tank to play and the grind there isn't too bad.

Upgrades 14,000 and 16,000 xp in are much more tolerable than a fat 58,000 one. I need the carrot closer than that!

oh god, i absolutely HATE the FV4202 line. i'm about 2k away from unlocking it and i have to say outside of the cromwell, i hated everything after. to slow, low alpha for the most part. the centurion 7/1 was over 200k just to fully upgrade it, then you needed to grind the 180k for the fv4202. i wish i never started this grind as it's not used in pubs or cw.
it's like a worse e50m in every way imo. cant ram, not fast enough to keep up with others, great gun but cannot take a hit at all.

 

[stag3]

The Nashorn is a sweet TD. Seriously this whole line is not feeling like a "grind" to me (I did start at the Nashorn). But to each his own.

yea i kinda do and don't regret bypassing all of them, i have to say the tier 9 is super fun to play and it doesn't feel like a grind at all. i probably should have free xp'd as much as i could towards the t57 haha.

i'm debating keeping the tier9 wtf due to the low profile and awesome gun. but i'd need to start another crew.....

 

[PowerYoga]

oh god, i absolutely HATE the FV4202 line. i'm about 2k away from unlocking it and i have to say outside of the cromwell, i hated everything after. to slow, low alpha for the most part. the centurion 7/1 was over 200k just to fully upgrade it, then you needed to grind the 180k for the fv4202. i wish i never started this grind as it's not used in pubs or cw.
it's like a worse e50m in every way imo. cant ram, not fast enough to keep up with others, great gun but cannot take a hit at all.

I liked the comet actually. I don't know, it felt "right" when I drove it, it matched really well with my style. The cromwell was too paper-thin for my tastes, at least the comet had a strangely bouncy turret.

 

[stag3]

got the fv4202 today, it should be an easy wn8 stat padder as nobody really has or plays this, so the expected dmg output will be low.

it seems to be a more accurate gun than the e50m, however the alpha while the same dmg on paper, seems to roll ~340-380 for most of my shots, and hesh is useless. it's shell velocity is superb however. it is a LOT faster than the centurion 7/1, but still lags way behind the russian meds. i'm using vents/rammer/vert stab. debating on switching out vents for optics, but since this isn't fast enough to scout i may just leave the vents on, with 100% crew, bia, rammer its a hair under 8 seconds for reload.

edit: i actually saw one in cw last night lol, it died pretty quick

 

[Skott]

The Nashorn is a sweet TD. Seriously this whole line is not feeling like a "grind" to me (I did start at the Nashorn). But to each his own.

Enjoy the Nashorn because when you get to the Emil you're going to bitch a lot. Great gun depression but gun traverse sucks balls badly forcing you to move your body a lot and constantly break camo. The one cool thing about the Emil though is that because of its great gun depression popping over a hill or rise without showing much of your upper part. The trick though is to pop up quickly, fire, and then drop back down. You have to do this because a enemy with decent gun accuracy can pen your top and the tank's armor sucks. You'll find that any tank of any size can and will out turn you and do serious damage in flanking brawls. The Emil cannot brawl worth crap. Its too slow. And everyone knows it so they will rush you.

 

[PowerYoga]

Played a bit over the weekend after a long while, and ended up with at least 1 or 2 afks on my team every single game. Same for the enemy team. Has the game degraded to this degree with wargaming not giving a flying fuck about afk botting?

 

[BoT]

short answer: yes
long answer: there is really not much wot can do about. a ban or suspension would probably be too radical. kicking the player after some idle time would rob the other team of potential spotting and damage points.
the only thing i could see working if there some algorithme in MM that would recognize player prone to be bots/ afk and match them up rather then to put them in regular pubs.
i wish that MM would somewhat recognize and separate players that play occasionally, for shits and giggles and the more serious players

 

[Craig234]

nm

 

[stag3]

man the foch155 sucks now, i don't care for any of the nerfs to it except the engine nerf. it needs the mobility back.

also the 268 is sluggish , there's pretty much no reason to get a tier X TD anymore for the american and russian lines, the alpha is the same. i still think the t30 > E4 imo.

 

[PowerYoga]

oh, it's not just me that felt the 268's sluggishness post patch? Also the gun is down to 750 from 850, every single tier 10 TD got the same nerf to gun damage.

I still like the tank, but without the gun and the mobility it's just a 704 with better low tier bully armor. Got 4k damage in it the past weekend, pretty much single handedly wrecked 3 tier 9 heavies and scared off a tier 10 medium.

Then I accidentally drive into a lake and drown.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Anyone who thinks the alpha decrease in TD's was a nerf (while getting a RoF boost) is wrong. The E3 and E4 are even better now what with a 14 second and 16 second reload respectively for 750 damage. Consider, how often do you actually get to smack targets for the full 850 damage before the "nerf"? How many of those targets were below 700 HP? Or you got a tracking hit, or missed, or the target vaporized under massed fire anyway?

I have always argued for alpha over DPM before, but there is such a thing as unrealized alpha (as well as unrealized DPM). Give me a gun that does at least 490 damage at tier 10 with a decent RoF and I am pretty happy.

Now, the OTHER nerfs that happened do hurt specific tier 10 TD's. The Foch not getting a RoF buff and also getting an armor nerf hurt it a LOT. The 268 *is* more sluggish which was one of its main draws, being a quick TD.

The waffle is still massively OP. The 183/JPZE100 was untouched (apart from the universal TD camo nerf). The roomba sucks to play but that is because tier 8 sucks to play thanks to wargaming removing battle tier 12.

The tier 10 TD's I will keep: the 183, E3, E4.
The tier 10 TD's I will eventually sell: The 268
The tier 10 TD's I sold a long time ago and never regretted: The JPE

The tier 10 tank that just keeps getting better and better with each nerf hitting other tanks: The E100. Mmmmmmmmm ehundo I love you.

 

[PowerYoga]

I don't really see ROF being all that useful on TDs. Most of the time I'm waiting 20-30s inbetween loaded shots since people are too afraid to get in my view. I can only count a handful of times where I fired ghost shots or wished I could reload 2 seconds faster, and in those situations I'm mostly fucked and was hoping to get off 1 more round before I died. I can count on 1 hand the amount of times where reloading a second faster would've saved my ass.

Then again, I can also count on 1 hand where doing another 50 damage would've killed the tank ... The damage is a nerf for sure, not sure about the ROF being a "buff".

 

[stag3]

e3 definitely, but the e4 is a pos, it's been nerfed to shit exactly like the foch155 now.
everything can pen the E4, so it reloads in 16.xx seconds now instead of 17.xx
not a big deal, on the e3 yes as it can still bounce gold and fires a full 1.xx seconds faster.

i'm just not having fun with the td's anymore, which is what wg wanted i guess, i am starting to see 4+ arty per side again, which i'm fine with, i never cared about arty much haha.

i'd rather they just removed the TD camo bonus across the board and left everything as it was. and yea the wtf tier X got a "nerf" which nobody that has it has noticed at all when i asked them how it was.

 

[gammaray]

The tier 10 tank that just keeps getting better and better with each nerf hitting other tanks: The E100. Mmmmmmmmm ehundo I love you.

the E-100 only gives good performance if we shoot gold/spremium with it, otherwise meh.

 

[Dresdenboy]

I'm an occasional player, but the "Flak Bus" or "Doom Toaster" Pz Sfl IVc (I have higher tiers, but was slow on that line) with its top gun is devastating when used on the right map. It was even possible to turn the game when 3 enemy TDs + 1 arty vs. me + a M37 were left. I think, I'll never sell it.

 

[stag3]

yea it's like the french toaster with the derp, one shotting everything lmao, i loved that grind.

 

[Possessed Freak]

the E-100 only gives good performance if we shoot gold/spremium with it, otherwise meh.

That has ALWAYS been the case with the E100. Nothing has changed with the actual tank since the HP buff. But the game changes has helped it more comparatively to other tier 10's.

The dispersion buff...
The camo nerf to TDs...
The alpha drop on the TDs to 750...
The buff to spaced armor mechanics...

I can't think of a single mechanics change that hurts the E100 more than any other tier 10. Even the HEAT "nerf" has not changed the the way this tank plays offensively and helped with the side skirts even more.

 

[stag3]

i only carry maybe 5-7 regular ap shells in my e100 and that's only when there's lights or french tanks left in the match. everything else is pure heat with 2-3 shells of HE for wtf's put in, nothing like seeing 1k dmg to a wtf hahahaha

 

[Daverino]

I'm an occasional player, but the "Flak Bus" or "Doom Toaster" Pz Sfl IVc (I have higher tiers, but was slow on that line) with its top gun is devastating when used on the right map. It was even possible to turn the game when 3 enemy TDs + 1 arty vs. me + a M37 were left. I think, I'll never sell it.

The biggest problem with the flak bus is that it cannot hold a corner. An enemy tank can pull past the corner to shoot you in the sides without even exposing himself to your gun.