[MMO] World of Tanks

[Genx87]

Arty is fine provided it is limited to 2-3 pieces per game. Any more and it is annoying.

 

[stag3]

arty needs to be put into matches with only other arty and lights

 

[gammaray]

Exactly. Wargamming has basically said time and again, learn to deal with arty. It sure as hell isn't hard. Maps all have arty killzones, safe spots, and passageways, which all change based on where the enemy arty are located. Learn to use your mini-map and some basic logic/common sense, and you will know where the enemy arties are positioned, especially after their first or second shot. There is no excuse to be in a known killzone, except your own bad gameplay. And any tank that can go over 40 has no excuse at all for getting hit at anytime by any arty (unless they were double tracked). Stop driving predictably.

sorry to ask but, are you a noob, or a devoted one hand clicker, eating or drinking with your free hand between the shots?

with over 20k battles, and wn8 over 2000, i know that arty ruins this otherwise fine game beyond imagination. I wonder which brings WG more money, constant new arty players (the way WG thinks for now) or the players who left cos they were pissed off and had enough of getting pooped up from nowhere, just trying to fight other tanks?

imho, WG is lucky that no other company made a good arcade tank shooter without artillery. they've had a unique game for almost 4 years now, that sucks for us, no alternative. we have to endure non-sense arty everyday, courage comrades!!!

 

[Craig234]

arty needs to be put into matches with only other arty and lights

Come on.

Your solution is one arty against 15 lights, and take away the gun on arty.

 

[datalink7]

There is always bunch of heavies crying about arty. Funny, the same people dont cry when they one shotting elc, or some other scout without armor. Nah, they are so cool they even push scouts out of the bush. For every bad game they play on bad arty card, or stupid scout card. No wonder i enjoy killing such a p****ies with my elc...

Stop crying, heavies will bore us to dead with the same crap all the time...

You say that like people only play one class of t ank...

 

[Possessed Freak]

There is always bunch of heavies crying about arty. Funny, the same people dont cry when they one shotting elc, or some other scout without armor. Nah, they are so cool they even push scouts out of the bush. For every bad game they play on bad arty card, or stupid scout card. No wonder i enjoy killing such a p****ies with my elc...

Stop crying, heavies will bore us to dead with the same crap all the time...

Get it right, the ELC has 400 HP, the average damage roll for a 122mm is 390 and that is the largest caliber gun that the ELC will face at tier 8 heavy (other than the derp 152 on the KV-2 or the T34's 120mm). The 122 needs an above average roll to one shot an ELC. The tier 5 leo has... 440 HP. So even the biggest gun that heavies can mount can not one shot that thing unless RNG is really kind.

And this is not even talking about heavies dying to arty, it is talking about how arty makes the game into a campfest and massively RNG dependent. Last night, I was in a game where a 43%er in a GWpanther hit 8/11 shots for 4k damage. Carried the damn team because RNG blessed his gun. He had the first 4 kills on our team, ended up with top gun. Top EXP/Top dmg. Could that 43%er do that in ANY non arty?

The better players in this game continue to bitch about arty because it is a broken mechanic. It needs fixing. And this is coming from me, who played arty in clan wars constantly because I was Mr. Reliable in my 261. They even put me in El Halluf matches, knowing my flat arc was pretty useless... because I hit my first shot as the enemy went into position.

 

[PowerYoga]

tomatoes don't understand why arty is broken because they don't understand the metagame, they think the game is counterstrike with tanks. Derp away.

 

[JumBie]

I swear, this game really wants you to spend money. The grind to a million credits is LONG...and on top of that if I want to grab more than one new tanks at a time its impossible to do it without spending cash. I unlocked the T21 and the Hellcat. I purchased the hellcat and now I gotta sit and grind away to get a T21. Its going to take like over 100 games to be able to save 900,000 credits.

 

[Craig234]

I swear, this game really wants you to spend money. The grind to a million credits is LONG...and on top of that if I want to grab more than one new tanks at a time its impossible to do it without spending cash. I unlocked the T21 and the Hellcat. I purchased the hellcat and now I gotta sit and grind away to get a T21. Its going to take like over 100 games to be able to save 900,000 credits.

I suggest looking at it as, if you don't enjoy playing the game enough to play it for those credits instead of buying them, there's a problem with not enjoying playing.

I think it's a commonly held view by players, 'never pay for credits'. And they are quite expensive, to cater to the more impatient. If needed - buy premium tanks/time.

 

[JumBie]

I suggest looking at it as, if you don't enjoy playing the game enough to play it for those credits instead of buying them, there's a problem with not enjoying playing.

I think it's a commonly held view by players, 'never pay for credits'. And they are quite expensive, to cater to the more impatient. If needed - buy some premium time/tanks.

Enjoying playing has nothing to do with wanting to purchase a tank that you have unlocked. Sure I enjoy the game, but when I unlock something and I cant afford to get it, things become frustrating. Sitting here playing 100-200 more games just to purchase the tank that I have already played 100 games to unlock is kind of annoying.

 

[PowerYoga]

Enjoying playing has nothing to do with wanting to purchase a tank that you have unlocked. Sure I enjoy the game, but when I unlock something and I cant afford to get it, things become frustrating. Sitting here playing 100-200 more games just to purchase the tank that I have already played 100 games to unlock is kind of annoying.

look on the bright side, your crew will be awesome from those 200 extra games.

 

[datalink7]

Vau you definitly drive scouts:
http://www.noobmeter.com/player/na/datalink7/1005336737/

give me a break...or maybe u can cry some more...

No wonder u dont like arty if u got maximum battles in t95.

Suggestion : stop lying to urself and stop lying to us

What is this post even trying to say? I'm not sure, but it certainly isn't anything coherent.

My T95 is my top tank because I played it a lot when I was a noob and I wanted the E3, and didn't have a premium account. So it took a long time to grind it. I probably haven't touched my T95 in over 2k games and not heavily in about 5k games, so it has no relevance on my current opinion.

You also completely ignore that I have my second most games played in a medium, and my top 10 tanks show a lot of diversity in styles outside of arty.

Your post is also a classic case of an ad hominem argument, attacking the character of your opponent instead of addressing what they actually have to say. For anyone paying attention, this pretty much shows that you yourself don't have much of an argument and so must resort to such fallacies. Good luck trying to seem persuasive with such tactics.

 

[datalink7]

I swear, this game really wants you to spend money. The grind to a million credits is LONG...and on top of that if I want to grab more than one new tanks at a time its impossible to do it without spending cash. I unlocked the T21 and the Hellcat. I purchased the hellcat and now I gotta sit and grind away to get a T21. Its going to take like over 100 games to be able to save 900,000 credits.

I'm not sure if you are aware, but you can go just to the depot and sell off a lot of your old equipment. For instance, when you upgrade a gun on a vehicle, the old gun goes into the depot. Same with tracks, radio, etc. Can make some needed money this way.

Also, if you wanted a one time purchase to help with the money, pick up an IS6. It makes a lot of money and is relatively easy to drive.

 

[datalink7]

What is this post even trying to say?

If you dont get it, nobody can help u

Again, a nonsensical statement that does nothing other than make you look foolish. So please continue if you wish to be seen this way

But let's break down your earlier statement if you really feel it was something resembling a valid argument.

Vau you definitly drive scouts:
http://www.noobmeter.com/player/na/datalink7/1005336737/

Perhaps part of my confusion (and I'm sure everyone else's) is "Vau", which isn't a word in English. "Vau you definitely drive scouts" doesn't mean anything in the English language. Perhaps you meant something like "Wow, you definitely drive scouts", and you meant that as a sarcastic statement? Even then it wouldn't make much sense, as I do drive scouts about 9% of the time, though recently it has been closer to 20%.

give me a break...or maybe u can cry some more...

Give you a break OR maybe I can cry some more? Again, a statement that doesn't make any sense. Give you a break from what? And if I don't give you a break, I can cry some more? How is this anything that make sense in the English language, let alone in argumentation?

No wonder u dont like arty if u got maximum battles in t95.

As already stated, my maximum battles in the T95 have nothing to do with my dislike of artillery. For one, I played that mostly when I was a beginning. Secondly, I didn't even dislike artillery that much back then because I was a noob who didn't really care that much about the status of the game and I wasn't very good at it. I was just driving tanks. My dislike of artillery came about after I started learning the game mechanics and how the meta develops and how artillery affects gameplay.

Besides, I've stated multiple times that I dislike artillery NOT because of any individual time they've damaged me, but because of how they affect the game as a whole (the meta development). So my driving any one individual tank has no bearing on my statement or opinion. You attempting to bring it up as a counter argument is both fallacious and nonsense as it has nothing to do with anything I've said. Learn some basic logic if you don't get this.

Suggestion : stop lying to urself and stop lying to us

Where have I lied? Asserting that I have doesn't make it the case.

I suggest you take some time to develop a well thought out critique instead of continuing to post the way you have, otherwise you will continue to look silly

 

[stag3]

every other tank in the game can be countered except arty (not including cb'ng)
take the hit and flank/circle strafe them to death

but arty sits near spawn somewhere until end game

like everyone said, arty promotes camping, having to get to the few arty safe spots the whole game until arty fires, or is spotted or dead sucks

 

[microAmp]

I'm not sure if you are aware, but you can go just to the depot and sell off a lot of your old equipment. For instance, when you upgrade a gun on a vehicle, the old gun goes into the depot. Same with tracks, radio, etc. Can make some needed money this way.

Also, if you wanted a one time purchase to help with the money, pick up an IS6. It makes a lot of money and is relatively easy to drive.

Let me also add to that, you can do it for ammo also. That expensive APCR or HEAT can go too but be 100% sure that the ammo won't ever be used again.

 

[datalink7]

Im not native english/american speaker, so u can talk about my english and have fun

As i stated before

If you dont get it, nobody can help u

I'm not making fun of your English. I'm simply saying your argument doesn't make sense in English. If you aren't a native English speaker, and that's the reason your argument/statement (can't even really call it an argument) doesn't make sense, that's fine, but you can't expect me or other English speakers to understand what you're talking about.

It isn't about making fun of how you're writing. It's about how you aren't making yourself understandable, either grammatically or logically.

Your continued assertion "If you don't get it, nobody can help u" doesn't make sense either. Just because you say something is the case, doesn't make it so. This is fundamental basic logic. It is the same as me saying "2+2 = 5" and then saying if you don't understand it, nobody can help you. It's just silly and makes you look dumb. I'm sorry you don't understand it, but if you can't raise your argumentation above an elementary school level I don't know what to say.

Also, I really hope that this isn't your profile:

http://www.noobmeter.com/player/eu/huskystafford/501405632/

Because, if it is, and you were brining up my profile to make fun of it, that's hilarious (and sad ) considering your stats. I'm not making fun of you as a player. I have nothing against average players. But for a very average player to make fun of a good player doesn't lend credence to what you are saying.

 

[stag3]

any of you guys try robocraft yet? it's like minecraft meets wot

 

[MongGrel]

I don't care about any of that. I don't even care that much of the time Arty misses and has little damage impact. I think it should be removed because of its poor mechanic and negative impact on the gameplay of the game. It encourages camping and stymies aggressive tactics. That's why I think it's bad.

Arty is hard to do right or it used to be.

Have had a couple games in the past have won matched in a good one before though at the end, they can go TD in some cases.

 

[datalink7]

Arty is hard to do right or it used to be.

Have had a couple games in the past have won matched in a good one before though at the end, they can go TD in some cases.

Ok, though (and I'm not saying this in a "to be mean" way at all) I'm not sure why you quoted me, since my post was essentially how I don't care how hard arty is to play or even how individually effective it is, but how it affects the game as a whole by its existence.

 

[datalink7]

As i sad before wot has alots of stats s***ers

Are you trying to suggest I'm stat padding? What, with my top three tanks being T95 (considered a horrible tank and certainly not good for stat padding), Object 430 (worst of the Russian Meds), and KV-2 (a tank more for the lulz, horrible for stat padding)?

And then there is you, who has 6k games in an ELC (light tanks are the biggest stat padders in the game for WN8) and 3k games in a Hellcat (considered one of the most OP vehicles for its tier and one of the biggest stat padders) as your top two most played vehicles. So maybe you were talking about yourself?

Either way, again you fail and look silly. Why do you insist on continuing to make yourself look bad? It boggles my mind.

 

[datalink7]

LOL ur just stats su***er

U went to see stats not me

Stop lying to urself and stop lying to us

What does "su***er" even mean? I'm not picking up a word in English that starts with "su" and ends in "er" that would require at three letter (***) censorship. Why not just spell it out?

Your statement again doesn't make sense. You linked to my profile first. I simply responded. And the proof is in the numbers. You are a decidedly average player that, despite playing stat padding tanks most of the time, can only get average stats. This would actually suggest you are a below average player if you can only achieve average stats in stat padding tanks. Nothing particularly wrong about being an average player, but to claim you have a greater understanding of the mechanics of the game when you demonstrably don't is silly. It would be like me if I went around trying to say players much better than myself were just stat padders who didn't have a valid opinion and were only lying. Reeks of jealousy in the least.

Arguing with you is like going seal clubbing in World of Tanks with seals who think you are cheating and that's why you are winning. You continually look like a fool and lose at every turn, but you don't even realize how bad you are because you are just a seal. I was trying to be charitable in the beginning by simply addressing what you are saying, but it is apparent that you either lack the education level or the intellectual fortitude to engage in a reasonable conversation, and simply insist on pushing forward your catchphrases like they are meaningful in any way.

You are, however, providing me some amusement while I wait for a buddy to come by for dinner. So I thank you for that

 

[datalink7]

any of you guys try robocraft yet? it's like minecraft meets wot

I haven't. Don't know that I've even heard of it. I'll check it out, but I'm not a huge fan of Minecraft (just not my type of game) so I'm not sure I'd enjoy it.

Mostly my alternatives to WoT right now are Farcry 4, This War of Mine, and Men of War: Assault Squad 2

 

[skipsneeky2]

A good thread slowly turning into crap.Star Wars E8-The Forum Wars.Do it J.J!

 

[stag3]

damn i wanted this war of mine but the 15% off ugh, i'll wait until it's more of a % off.

if you really want to stat pad, use the new lights, T37 and M41 bulldog in particular.
if you can get to ~1k dmg you'll hit >3k wn8

my highest wn8 game ever was in the wz-132, i hit something like 18k wn8 with 4500dmg and a few kills

they're fun ass tanks, super nimble/quick, fast reload. i'm just about done with the m41 bulldog now, but still debating if i even want the t49 with derp still hahaha.