[MMO] World of Tanks

[Possessed Freak]

My peak so far in my E8: Credits received: 88,234

Only 3 kills but a lot of hits.

Sadly all my high scores were in defeats. High was a 60k defeat. I have no idea what the hell that would be in victory. I soloed a pershing in the E8 that game. He had NO idea where I was and I just slowly pecked at him. Also took out a tiger 2 and almost a KV3. It was on Dorf and I was on the hill.

[edit] I played a crapton this weekend. Got a Panther 2, SU-100, unlocked the T20, still have to get the IS3...

 

[stag3]

god why do idiots platoon up their tier 10's with a tier 1
it just fucks your team over.........

 

[Skott]

They really need to write a script that doesn't allow the platoon into the battle if the lowest tank is so many levels less than the bigger tanks. I find it amusing like others do in a sense but it screws the team out of a spot for a potentially good tank.

10k away from E-75. I'll work on it tomorrow. Could do it in 10 good battles or as much as 25 or 30 bad ones. LOL

 

[stag3]

yea the match was from hell, our side had 3 is-7, 1 maus, 2 T30 and a T1 cunningham.
other side had 2 is-7, 1 E 100, 2 maus, 1 T30.

needless to say the t1 was useless, his buddy was in a T30

 

[PowerYoga]

don't be silly, your team is probably just going to melt with or without that one good tank. I find most matches to be ridiculously lopsided to one side or the other. It's like the matchmaker purposely lumps people with 30% win ratios together.

 

[novasatori]

It matches people who have a high win rate with those who don't. Trying to keep you at 50%.

At least, it did in beta. I noticed this after looking up my team mates stats after games.

 

[stag3]

i'm still waiting for a match to be trumped, come close several times

 

[Possessed Freak]

i'm still waiting for a match to be trumped, come close several times

Wait, what suit is trump?

 

[Visaoni]

I don't know how many times I heard that a stock KV sucked. It clearly wasn't enough. I was not prepared for how horrid this thing is.

Granted, it is my first heavy ever. I'm probably driving it pretty poorly. Well, if you can call moving a stock KV around 'driving.' It can get up some halfway decent speed, assuming you never intend to turn. This tank was not designed to turn.

However, the gun is the worst part. I've only played about five games or so, but in those five games I've yet to penetrate much of anything. I've completely failed to penetrate even an M4 with repeated shots. The gun isn't really accurate enough to aim for weak spots until you are close enough that the main problem is just getting the turret on target (at least when you aren't fighting a heavy).

My first match I actually got some decent exp and credits, mostly by doing nothing but surviving till we won. Since then I have yet to survive a single battle, and the exp and credits have been horrible.

 

[Creig]

Getting the KV kitted out is definitely a grind, no doubt about it. But if you can manage to get the knack of making the most out of this (barely) moving pillbox, you have the makings of some very fun matches. Not to mention, it can be a decent money-maker for your higher-tiered tanks.

Some people will swear by the 152mm derp cannon, but I'll take the 107mm any day of the week. If you end up being the top tank in your match, you can quite easily one-shot enemies with the 107mm. Plus it has a decent reload time and is quite accurate. If you aren't the top tank, you can still damage enemy tanks with the 107mm from a distance. Which is where you should be considering how slowly the KV turret turns.

 

[Genx87]

People like the derp guns. I have the hardest time hitting anything with them unless I am really close. I will be going for the 107mm gun on my KV for sure!

 

[Merad]

My first match I actually got some decent exp and credits, mostly by doing nothing but surviving till we won. Since then I have yet to survive a single battle, and the exp and credits have been horrible.

That's not at all unusual in a new tank. Especially with it being your first heavy. Take comfort though, if you can stand it long enough to get the 107mm gun, you'll have a very fun tank that totally dominates at its tier.

 

[Visaoni]

That's not at all unusual in a new tank. Especially with it being your first heavy. Take comfort though, if you can stand it long enough to get the 107mm gun, you'll have a very fun tank that totally dominates at its tier.

Thanks. Glad to know there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm trying to push up as far as I can through the heavy line before the Russian patch hits. I'd like to grab as many free garage slots - and tanks - as I can. Is it worth getting all the way to the 107mm as opposed to grabbing the 122mm, which I've heard is a decent gun, and researching the turret for the free slot and tank, and then trying to push straight to the KV-3? I know I'll need tracks in there, but they aren't very costly either in exp or credits.

 

[PowerYoga]

Thanks. Glad to know there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm trying to push up as far as I can through the heavy line before the Russian patch hits. I'd like to grab as many free garage slots - and tanks - as I can. Is it worth getting all the way to the 107mm as opposed to grabbing the 122mm, which I've heard is a decent gun, and researching the turret for the free slot and tank, and then trying to push straight to the KV-3? I know I'll need tracks in there, but they aren't very costly either in exp or credits.

The KV can't use the 122mm. Are you talking about the KV3 or the 152 derp gun?

Once you get the 107 on the KV it'll be smooth sailing to the kv3. the KV is the toughest tank of its tier, and if you ever get into a game where you're top tier you'll nom-nom-nom your way through everything on the field. I believe you'll need the box turret to mount either the 107 or the 152 though.

If you think the KV is sluggish, the KV-3 is slower. Also, the IS-4 is about the same speed as the KV-3, though it has more horsepower/ton ratio. Is and IS-3 are both fast tanks and a pleasure to drive though.

Remeber heavy tanks are not meant to be driven like mediums (t-28 comes to mind). They're lumbering beasts that have a lot of armor and most of them should be driven like stationary gun platforms.

 

[Merad]

IMO it's worth getting the 107 on the KV. Not only does it make that tank much better, but it's also really the best gun to use on the KV-3 (IMO).

The KV can't use the 122mm. Are you talking about the KV3 or the 152 derp gun?

Unless it's changed the KV has a 122 derp and a 152 derp.

 

[Visaoni]

The KV can't use the 122mm. Are you talking about the KV3 or the 152 derp gun?

122mm U-11. Doesn't require the KV-2 turret to mount. As even the 152 derp gun requires more than a fourth of the exp required for the KV-3, and the 107 requires more than half, it seems like the quickest route to the KV-3 might be to grab the 122mm U-11 so I have something to work with, and then pushing straight to the KV-3.

 

[Merad]

122mm U-11. Doesn't require the KV-2 turret to mount. As even the 152 derp gun requires more than a fourth of the exp required for the KV-3, and the 107 requires more than half, it seems like the quickest route to the KV-3 might be to grab the 122mm U-11 so I have something to work with, and then pushing straight to the KV-3.

The thing is, the KV-3 will throw you against more higher tier opponents, and you won't really have a way to effectively damage them. This game is all about damage. Damage = xp and credits. You can do it, but it'll be pretty painful...

If you're worried about rushing down the Russian line, I think you can relax a bit. The update plan they put out not long ago had the Russian update in Q1 2012, so you probably have 4-6 months.

 

[Visaoni]

The thing is, the KV-3 will throw you against more higher tier opponents, and you won't really have a way to effectively damage them. This game is all about damage. Damage = xp and credits. You can do it, but it'll be pretty painful...

If you're worried about rushing down the Russian line, I think you can relax a bit. The update plan they put out not long ago had the Russian update in Q1 2012, so you probably have 4-6 months.

I was thinking it was a bit sooner than that. Good to know I have some extra time to play with. Thanks for the info.

Now, to to figure out how to get enough exp to get the 107 in the first place... at this rate I'll have a minimum of 150 or so games to get through running essentially at full stock (minus tracks at some point).

 

[stag3]

yea dont rush thru to the kv-3
you will want to play with both the 107 and the derp on the kv, it makes credits like crazy

 

[Skott]

I played the KV1 back in beta. It was a horrid grind. I didn't have premium at the time either. The 107mm is a decent gun. I never tried the 152mm so I can't say much about it. A few used it because they liked the major damage it did. It was a very slow loader though. Back then the KV1 was considered one of the worse tanks to play in the game. It was slow and most tanks could run circles around you. It was insulting to see little tanks swarm you like gnats and you couldn't do much about it.

Since beta though things have changed. We went through some tier line up changes and new tanks have been added. I know after the game went gold the KV play improved due to tier line up improvements. A lot of people laughed when their KV got put in with smaller tanks. They dominate. When they got stuck against bigger tanks they whined. Its a mix bag I guess although it is a step up from the beta days.

The KV3 once fully upgraded is not all that bad. Its slow but takes a lot of punishment. Its a good money maker for its tier. The 122mm does huge damage but very inaccurate. I preferred the 107mm over the 122mm simply because it loads faster and much more accurate. I found its best played as a sniper. I actually liked it over the IS. I really hated the IS. IS3 and IS4 are good though. That was back in beta though. I haven't touched the Soviet heavy line since so hard to say how they are now. People seem to like them. I found the German heavy line more enjoyable overall. I like to snipe in the beginnings of a battle and the German heavies do it better IMHO.

Edit:I have the E-75 researched finally. 256 battles to attain it in the Tiger 2 at an average of 698 xp per battle. Max xp was 2046 per battle. I really like the Tiger 2. I'm going to keep it and play it from time to time. Its one of my favorite tanks in this game.

 

[Nintendesert]

Get a Chaffee, forget all other tanks. This thing is hilariously fun to drive!

 

[Binky]

The KV is terrible. It's a big gun on a turtle-like chassis. Everything about it is just fat and slow.

 

[Merad]

Speaking from beta experience (I don't think the KV play style has changed all that much):

The KV requires you to be flexible between two vastly different styles of play.

Style 1 - Low Tier (5-6)
In a Tier 5 game, you're basically king. Many lower tier tanks will bounce shots off your frontal armor all day, especially if they're driven by newbies who don't know how to aim. There was one game in beta that my KV survived after tanking something like 80 hits*. Many enemies can be killed in 1-2 shots. Seriously, the 107 is just sick at this level. Bear in mind that this gun is only slightly worse (20 less damage, 30mm less pen) than the gun US heavies get at Tier 7 and are stuck with until Tier 9. At Tier 5, you really just have to be careful not to over extend and let yourself get flanked. Tier 6 is a bit more dangerous, as M6's, KV-3s and VK3601's can all lay a hurt on you, but you still dominate the lower opponents.

Style 2 - High Tier (7+)
Here the tables are turned. Basically everyone can penetrate you, and most opponents will be able to kill you in 1-2 shots. Most of the time, once they start shooting at you, you're dead. Your entire mission is to sit in the back and snipe. If you can avoid being a target, you can actually chalk up quite a bit of damage on higher tier enemies thanks to that beautiful 107, but you're going to have to learn how to shoot manually and where various tanks are weak. Tier 7 enemies aren't too bad, but once armor values start shooting up at Tier 8, you'll start having a harder time getting penetrating shots.

*This was on Cliff. I was at one end of the valley, and they had 3-4 lower tier TDs that sat at the other end plinking at me the whole game without penetrating, while their heavies and meds were attacking.

 

[Visaoni]

Do you guys have any thoughts about getting the 122mm as a stepping stone to the 107mm?

Unless I am at the very top of a match, I may as well not bother shooting. Except for the couple of matches where I've been the very top I've only managed to damage two tanks total. One game I even got sniper (13 shots, 12 hits) and only managed to damage one TD - I only shot at them once.

In the couple of matches where I have been the very top, I have been able to take a decent number of hits, and actually penetrate things fairly well. I can't kill them fast enough though, as my support tends to evaporate as soon as the enemy starts to gang up on me, and compared to the tanks I'm facing I may as well be completely immobile.

It seems like the 122mm might help this, as I might have a chance of damaging things in the higher tiers (or even my own), and it should absolutely destroy enemy tanks when I'm top dog.

 

[Icepick]

I'm playing right now if anyone wants to platoon up.