[MMO] World of Tanks

[Ruptga]

If you can make the 12t work for you and enjoy it, you should do fine on that line. Personally I hated the 12t and 13 75 (mostly due to matchmaking), but those tanks have their fans, and I still have the ELC.

The IS4 line is good, but hasn't been the same ever since the introduction of gold-shells-for-credits. I enjoyed the T150 and still play an elite KV3. As for the rest of the line, both experience fighting them and what I hear tell me that they are enjoyable if you like that style of heavy, even if the IS4 is only "decent." It used to be "good," then power creep passed it by.

 

[chimaxi83]

44% chance isn't stacked. Back when I had XVM installed I saw enough losses with 60-70% chances and enough wins with 30-40% chance to just shut it off and not pay attention to it.

Now when you are the only green on a team with all tomatoes against several greens plus 1-2 purples especially a platoon from a good clan like -G-, Havoc, Viln then yea you are pretty much playing against a stacked team and gonna get owned hardcore.

Oh yeah I know, I was just sharing an LOL at all the damn TDs on the other team.

 

[datalink7]

If you can make the 12t work for you and enjoy it, you should do fine on that line. Personally I hated the 12t and 13 75 (mostly due to matchmaking), but those tanks have their fans, and I still have the ELC.

The IS4 line is good, but hasn't been the same ever since the introduction of gold-shells-for-credits. I enjoyed the T150 and still play an elite KV3. As for the rest of the line, both experience fighting them and what I hear tell me that they are enjoyable if you like that style of heavy, even if the IS4 is only "decent." It used to be "good," then power creep passed it by.

After 10 or so games with the 12t, I decided to go down that line.

First game in it, totally stock, I got 6 kills. Tier VIII game. Of course, my team lost

Second game, I got 3 kills.

After 10 games, I've got almost a 2:1 kill ratio in the thing. Having a lot of fun with it.

 

[stag3]

E3 is the next on track. damn i'd have to start at the T28 with a fresh crew.....

 

[Ruptga]

Well, I made it a week, though I didn't even play every day. I still want to like this game, but there are just far too many stupid design decisions and the player base is fucking terrible. Retards and self-righteous 12-16 y/os absolutely everywhere, it's enough to cause flashbacks of Halo on XBL.

 

[mooncancook]

If you haven't been playing, login to play the Karl. It's like Mario Kart team battle fun!

 

[chimaxi83]

Well, I made it a week, though I didn't even play every day. I still want to like this game, but there are just far too many stupid design decisions and the player base is fucking terrible. Retards and self-righteous 12-16 y/os absolutely everywhere, it's enough to cause flashbacks of Halo on XBL.

Well, ok :thumbsup:

 

[Ruptga]

Well, ok :thumbsup:

Yeah yeah, it is a cool story, bro. It's just so frustrating, seeing good things ruined by dumb people.

 

[chimaxi83]

Yeah yeah, it is a cool story, bro. It's just so frustrating, seeing good things ruined by dumb people.

I just enjoy it for what it is. I think it's infested with shit players too, but if I cared that much, I'd join a clan and play with good players. I'm cool with mostly average teams and the frustratingly stupid losses they hand me, but I mostly do well for myself.

 

[Ruptga]

I just enjoy it for what it is. I think it's infested with shit players too, but if I cared that much, I'd join a clan and play with good players. I'm cool with mostly average teams and the frustratingly stupid losses they hand me, but I mostly do well for myself.

That's actually how I approach WT, since its problems are similar, but the difference is there I can truly succeed on my own. In WoT if you get a useless team you may kill a few guys but then you're just boned unless the enemy caps. In WT I routinely go between 4:1 and 7:0 during a loss, that's a "loss" I can stomach.

 

[stag3]

don't let it get to you, in the long term, it will even itself out.
generally if i lose 3x in a row, i go do something else and come back to the game later. i tend to get frustrated and play even worse after consecutive losses. it seems no matter what you do, if you get a shit team there's very little chance you can clutch a win.

at least back in the day in CS since it was only 5v5 you could clutch wins and had a chance. but against 29 other players, it just pisses you off.

 

[Skott]

I got a group of friends to start playing recently. About 6 of them. Bought them a month of premium each. Like crack addicts they are. It'll be fun to see what happens when that month runs out. LOL

 

[datalink7]

Worked my way up to the Lorr. I think it's going to be a long grind to the Bat Chat. Even with the Top Gun on it, the tank is very vulnerable. And it's huge. It's not like the 13 90 that is vulnerable, but you can hide.

Though, it is good at popping out and finishing tanks off.

 

[stag3]

the lorraine is much better now than when i had to grind it, it got buffed gun depression wise. i don't understand the hatred for it, it's great for like you said, finishing tanks off. as long as you don't try to be the break thru tank. yes it's HUGE compared to everything before it and after but you still play it the same way.

i'm close to the T69 and i heard it sucks now post HEAT nerf. we'll see what happens.

 

[PowerYoga]

the lorraine is much better now than when i had to grind it, it got buffed gun depression wise. i don't understand the hatred for it, it's great for like you said, finishing tanks off. as long as you don't try to be the break thru tank. yes it's HUGE compared to everything before it and after but you still play it the same way.

i'm close to the T69 and i heard it sucks now post HEAT nerf. we'll see what happens.

I drove the t69 post nerf and man it's terrible. With only 350 (need to check #s) on the heat rounds, it's not worth taking anything other than side shots anymore. It's still the best round on the tank but it's lackluster combined with the mobility nerf a while back. It's not the scary tank it once was.

Good to hear about the lorraine though. Might consider getting it when it goes on sale again.

 

[Possessed Freak]

I drove the t69 post nerf and man it's terrible. With only 350 (need to check #s) on the heat rounds, it's not worth taking anything other than side shots anymore. It's still the best round on the tank but it's lackluster combined with the mobility nerf a while back. It's not the scary tank it once was.

1) the pen is 250mm with HEAT
2) that pen is enough for dealing with any tier 8's frontally, most 9's frontally, and some 10's.
3) sorry easy mode gold pen got nerfed on mediums, in my opinion the medium pen needs to be nerfed to oblivion so they are forced to aim for weakspots or maneuver for flanking shots.

This is comparable to people saying the 54 is now useless because the massively OP premium rounds were nerfed.

For comparison, the IS3's BL 9 gold round is only 265 pen, barely any better than the NERFED T69 round and that is mounted on a heavy and BL9 is a highly respected gun. So if that is good at tier 8, than the 69's gun is still just fine.

Sorry for the rant, but it angers me hearing that the nerf of something so blatantly overpowered to something more reasonable makes a tank "terrible".

 

[stag3]

haha i only fire heat on my T54 with the better rof gun. wasting credits are not a big deal to me. 330 pen is plenty against everything.

same with the T32, i use the 90mm with gold. it has better pen and rof compared to the 105. it's awesome hitting someone and watching them advance to attack thinking you got a long ass reload and hitting them again in ~6 sec. completely transformed the tank for me as i originally used the 105 and hated it if i couldn't find a hull down spot.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Sorry for the rant, but it angers me hearing that the nerf of something so blatantly overpowered to something more reasonable makes a tank "terrible".

The people complaining are all the ones that grind for the latest min/max tank in the game, spending money on premium time, and dumping gold to convert to free exp, and racing to the latest fad...

 

[PowerYoga]

Sorry for the rant, but it angers me hearing that the nerf of something so blatantly overpowered to something more reasonable makes a tank "terrible".

350mm is also not normalized, so this thing is worthless on most tier 9s that have any sort of sloped armor. Forget tier 10s. Even prior to the nerf you still had to aim, ask any t69 driver and they'll tell you all about the phantom shots that go through and does nothing. The only difference the nerf did is previously you could pen tier 9s frontally without aiming too much (as long as the angle isn't terrible) and now you have to aim very carefully like every other tank.

Without a good gold ammo the t69 is a simple mediocre tank that's terrible compared to its contemporaries like the pershing, t44, panther2, etc because its mobility is sub par. With good gold ammo it's OP. There's no good middle ground for this tank. The day where medium autoloaders are kings is long gone.

T54 is still op. Never really used gold on the tank. The whole russian tier 9 and tier 10 line is pretty strong.

 

[Revolution 11]

That's actually how I approach WT, since its problems are similar, but the difference is there I can truly succeed on my own. In WoT if you get a useless team you may kill a few guys but then you're just boned unless the enemy caps. In WT I routinely go between 4:1 and 7:0 during a loss, that's a "loss" I can stomach.

I have not tried War Thunder's ground beta but I used to play WoT a lot, got to tier 8 tanks for Germany. The gameplay is good but too many systems are outdated. Plus the grind gets very tedious in the later stages with the lack of strategy in teams, horrible communication, and the fact that you only get 1 tank per match and then that vehicle is locked until the match ends. In War Thunder you get multiple vehicles which lets you take risks.

The graphics look quite bad, physics are just now being implemented, and everything just feels "old". There isn't a better word than "old". Wargaming is trying their best but the code is ancient, and I am not even sure if the game is 64-bit and if they have moved past using a single core. On the bright side, system requirements are not bad since the graphics are so-so.

I still like the game, and I understand its value in promoting F2P games. But they need to make a version 2.0 or something to keep up.

 

[chimaxi83]

I have not tried War Thunder's ground beta but I used to play WoT a lot, got to tier 8 tanks for Germany. The gameplay is good but too many systems are outdated. Plus the grind gets very tedious in the later stages with the lack of strategy in teams, horrible communication, and the fact that you only get 1 tank per match and then that vehicle is locked until the match ends. In War Thunder you get multiple vehicles which lets you take risks.

The graphics look quite bad, physics are just now being implemented, and everything just feels "old". There isn't a better word than "old". Wargaming is trying their best but the code is ancient, and I am not even sure if the game is 64-bit and if they have moved past using a single core. On the bright side, system requirements are not bad since the graphics are so-so.

I still like the game, and I understand its value in promoting F2P games. But they need to make a version 2.0 or something to keep up.

They're supposedly sprucing up the graphics/physics in 9.0+. Might be something to keep an eye out for.

 

[PowerYoga]

I just want them to use more than 1 fucking core but that's unlikely to happen.

 

[datalink7]

I seem to be getting worse at this game somehow. Had myself up to 53 percent win rate, and now I'm down to nearly 52 percent.

 

[stag3]

it's the weekend effect when all the potatoes come out to play. generally my w/r moves up during the week and tanks on weekends

 

[Possessed Freak]

it's the weekend effect when all the potatoes come out to play. generally my w/r moves up during the week and tanks on weekends

Look on the bright side:

While win rate may suffer, all other stats should drastically go up with a bunch of reds on both sides. DPG should skyrocket as you try to carry each team. With that, every metric should go up. Case in point, I had a 25% win rate earlier this week after ~20 games. However, all OTHER stats were up and my WN8 was around 3k.