[MMO] World of Tanks

[biostud]

the DW2 is so far the only tank I've free XP'ed. It's just horrid. Like driving a card box shooting wet spaghetti.

 

[PowerYoga]

no thanks, if MM skill is taken into account the good players will never be in a group with other good players since it'd have to normalize out the "good" players. This will not improve MM and it'll only serve to frustrate better players who are always tossed into shit matches.

 

[Fallen Kell]

no thanks, if MM skill is taken into account the good players will never be in a group with other good players since it'd have to normalize out the "good" players. This will not improve MM and it'll only serve to frustrate better players who are always tossed into shit matches.

Actually to that I say that MM should take skill into account, but pair people up with other players of equal skill on both sides of the match (i.e. shit players all play with and against other shit players, good players play with and against other good players).

 

[Fallen Kell]

you don't really get to experience the game until tier 5 imo, that's when it starts getting good. the first few tiers starting out suck period

I would completely counter that. Tier 1 and 2 are probably the most balanced the game ever will be. Tier 3 and 4 are probably the most imbalanced in the game due to the match maker with only 1 or 2 tanks being able to do reasonably well. After that, you are almost entirely at the mercy of your team with just a couple tanks being able to turn the tide of a crappy team. At tier 5, I would say that KV-1 can do that in most matches (except when the top tier is tier 7's). Tier 6 is a little more diverse with several really decent tanks that can all be played very well to turn the battle. Tier 7 I would say the T29 is still king, Tier 8 has a couple really good tanks, but at this point you are usually fighting with Tier 10 tanks which means you can't do crap to turn a battle if your team's tier 9 and 10 tanks suck. Tier 9 suffers many of the same issues as tier 8 tanks, but have a little more HP/armor/penetration, but are usually at the mercy of how bad the rest of your team is. At tier 10, even if you are awesome, you can't solo the entire other team, you still need your team to be decent. The waffle's before the nerfs previously could, but with the nerfs, it is a little harder (before the cammo nerf if you ventured out without scouts and came anywhere near a waffle, you were dead before you could even spot it. Now you are still dead, but you at least spot it for your team which can hopefully kill it as it has no real armor...)

 

[JumBie]

You need to sell a tank to make room for a new one.

You should also install a xvm mod pack to make the game more playable. I use roughnecks mega pack, but other are also available.

http://roughnecksxvmmods.ipbhost.com/index.php?/forum/41-roughs-mega-pack-area/

http://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/2c2gku/92_mod_list/

You get to play heavy tanks around tier IV-V depending on nationality. And yes it will take some time, but use the first tiers to get a feel of how to play. Definitely gets more fun once you get to higher tiers, although the American Tier III T18 tank destroyer with howitzer is really fun.

Also try to focus on 2-3 tanks if you want advance quickly.

I sold one, and I still cant put the T18 in the slot. The two tanks I have now are the M3 Lee and the T18, I want to upgrade my M3 Lee to a heavy...but damn its gunna take a while. Also im not sure what you guys mean by leveling up a tank...

 

[dud]

Why astonishment? Lets say $500 over the course of 3 years... that's not a lot of money, that's good entertainment value for something you play regularly. $500 doesn't even cover a month's worth of rent.

I don't know how to respond to this. In my youth I would buy a game and that was it ... you were done "paying" to play the game. Don't get me wrong ... I enjoy the game but not enough to pay $166.33 per year to play.

 

[stag3]

sadly gaming has moved away from buy and keep
its all monthly subscribtions, or day 1 DLC, addon packs etc...

 

[Skott]

I sold one, and I still cant put the T18 in the slot. The two tanks I have now are the M3 Lee and the T18, I want to upgrade my M3 Lee to a heavy...but damn its gunna take a while. Also im not sure what you guys mean by leveling up a tank...

Yeah, the M3 Lee is a crap tank. Always was. Cant do well as a heavy and it cant do well as a TD, as some people say to play it. I remember that PoS when I went through it. I love killing them whenever I see one. Easy to kill. Anyway, once you get past that M3 Lee you will be a lot happier. Just keep grinding it. It does get better.

 

[gammaray]

I don't know how to respond to this. In my youth I would buy a game and that was it ... you were done "paying" to play the game. Don't get me wrong ... I enjoy the game but not enough to pay $166.33 per year to play.

like i said before, if you get the yearly subscription, when it's on sale, it's much cheaper than that. Probably 90 something, which is like 8$ a month.

What is 8$ a month for you if you play 10 hours a week ?

Can you find a cheaper past time?

 

[stag3]

haha 10 hours a week, i play like 2-3 hours a night m-f and like 8+ hours sat and sundays
i need a life

 

[Craig234]

Yeah, the M3 Lee is a crap tank. Always was. Cant do well as a heavy and it cant do well as a TD, as some people say to play it. I remember that PoS when I went through it. I love killing them whenever I see one. Easy to kill. Anyway, once you get past that M3 Lee you will be a lot happier. Just keep grinding it. It does get better.

The M3 Lee is one of the most criticized tanks in the game, but has its fans. I came to like it, and think I got my first 'top gun' medal in it.

It's funny because basically every mention of the M3 Lee in game was answered by the same one phrase, 'play it like a TD'. Can't remember M3 Lee being said without it.

 

[Craig234]

I don't know how to respond to this. In my youth I would buy a game and that was it ... you were done "paying" to play the game. Don't get me wrong ... I enjoy the game but not enough to pay $166.33 per year to play.

Think about the budget for the developer if he sells you one copy for $20 every, versus if you pay hundreds of dollars over time for new content. Games can really be larger.

 

[Craig234]

sadly gaming has moved away from buy and keep
its all monthly subscribtions, or day 1 DLC, addon packs etc...

In the 1970's, you could get a new computer game for $60 (example? SSI's 'Bismark' wargame. Or look at the original Infocom text game list prices).

Products adapt to inflation. Gaming not only has inflation but increased production costs. Apogee could release VGA graphics - today's games need a lot more technology.

So, if the game just kept up with inflation you could pay $150 - add in the increased technology, make it several hundred - and then adjust to the culture of discounting that has crept up. It's not 'sell at the retail price a very long time', it's most people expecting a huge discount soon after release, and waiting for one.

Games didn't used to need millions for a development budget and now a lot do. The industry is bigger than Hollywood, and the big titles have big costs.

Customers won't spend the hundreds on the game to adapt by increasing the price.

What they DO do is reward games that give them a game they want to play long enough that they're willing to pay more again and again for more things in the game.

It also does mean day 1 DLC - because as unpleasant as it might be, it works better with customers than the alternatives of increasing the game price to include the DLC for free, or not offering the DLC at all, or pointlessly delaying the release of the DLC - yes, it's a calculated marketing move to get money. What would you have them do instead other than work for free?

As ugly as any of the practices seem, I see them rewarded by customers, who could but won't reward, say, a massive, expensive game with a big budget and big one-time price.

Money talks.

I use my experience with World of Tanks as an example - I probably wouldn't have paid $30 for it to start, but playing years, ended up spending hundreds of dollars, and have to admit that it was more effective than any other way I can think of for them to get the 'value' of the game paid to them.

Long ago I thought 'they should make better games with huge budgets that cost hundreds of dollars', but the market just doesn't support it - and despite my support for the idea, I'm unlikely to actually buy such a game without a really good case. These models, though, 'work' for getting customers to pay.

If you bought a $30 game and loved playing it for years, did the developed get paid an amount matching the value you got? No.

And games designed for long-time play with big budgets have a competitive advantage over one-time purchase games with smaller budgets.

 

[biostud]

I sold one, and I still cant put the T18 in the slot. The two tanks I have now are the M3 Lee and the T18, I want to upgrade my M3 Lee to a heavy...but damn its gunna take a while. Also im not sure what you guys mean by leveling up a tank...

New tanks will automatically be put in your empty garage slots. If you already has the t18 and play it, then it is already in a slot. You can't access a tank while it is in battle. Leveling up means to unlock better guns etc.

 

[biostud]

If a game is good I don't mind paying for it. WoT keeps adding new stuff and update the graphics, so the developers need their salaries. Instead of launching WoT 2, WoT 3 etc. They just keep working on this one. For me the cost pr. played hour is much better than lots of AAA titles like bf4, CoD ghost, but nothing will ever come close to HOMM III.



In the end it's entirely subjective if you feel you get value for your money spent.

 

[PowerYoga]

I don't know how to respond to this. In my youth I would buy a game and that was it ... you were done "paying" to play the game. Don't get me wrong ... I enjoy the game but not enough to pay $166.33 per year to play.

You don't have to pay to play the game. The game is completely free, 0 dollars.

However I enjoyed it enough that I wouldn't mind shelling out money to level up faster, earn more credits, or play a premium tank which earns me more credits. At the peak of my interest I was spending at least 12-13 hours a week on this game. I also bought my friend some gold so we can play together. Something I don't really get to do in person since we're separated by about 2000 miles of land and water, and its still cheaper than going to the bar.

$8 for almost a full week's worth of entertainment doesn't seem all that much to me. You can easily spend $0 and still enjoy the game the way I did, I just chose to support the developers so they can continue improving the game.

 

[Possessed Freak]

You certainly don't need to spend that much money to enjoy the game. The absolute best bang for the buck is premium and that is roughly $15/mo or $100/yr. You don't even need to spend that money to get premium. If you are good enough at the game you can earn gold in many different tournaments (at different tiers so you don't even need tier 10's) or clan wars. Hell, I was in a team of useless pubbies that talked about ponies and anime and crap. Still earned 500 gold and it was a tier 1! event.

As I said, I regret 2 of my purchases. I do NOT regret getting the 183 from tier 1. Even after the "nerf" my hesh has nuked several tier 10's.

 

[stag3]

and 5x weekend
rocking the 20% winrate as usual, i just don't get it

 

[datalink7]

Yesterday I played 80 games. Mostly because I started out super poorly and told myself I wouldn't quit until I got up to 50 percent win rate. Took me to 80 games to do it . It started off brutal.

Today I did 35 games and had a great day. Personally played at an Excellent rating in all categories, and ended up with a 60 percent win rate.

I had a ton of Free XP, so I decided to skip the T71 and T69 and just unlocked the T54E1. Not sure if either the T71 or T69 are worth having as a fun tank? Any opinions? If so, I'll go try them out.

Only one game in t he T54E1, but did alright. Seems like it could be a fun tank used correctly. Pop out and finish things off.

 

[datalink7]

You certainly don't need to spend that much money to enjoy the game. The absolute best bang for the buck is premium and that is roughly $15/mo or $100/yr. You don't even need to spend that money to get premium. If you are good enough at the game you can earn gold in many different tournaments (at different tiers so you don't even need tier 10's) or clan wars. Hell, I was in a team of useless pubbies that talked about ponies and anime and crap. Still earned 500 gold and it was a tier 1! event.

As I said, I regret 2 of my purchases. I do NOT regret getting the 183 from tier 1. Even after the "nerf" my hesh has nuked several tier 10's.

Yeah I'm still rocking my 183. I still do fairly well in it.

I do stock 2 AP shells now though. Figure if it is towards the end of the game and there are targets at lower hit points (less than 1000), the 310mm of penetration would be have more assurance to finish them off.

 

[stag3]

T69 til the end was a blast

 

[MongGrel]

Haven't even played in over a year.

I oughta get my E-75, Crommie and things out again for grins and giggles.

 

[stag3]

Yesterday I played 80 games. Mostly because I started out super poorly and told myself I wouldn't quit until I got up to 50 percent win rate. Took me to 80 games to do it . It started off brutal.

Today I did 35 games and had a great day. Personally played at an Excellent rating in all categories, and ended up with a 60 percent win rate.

I had a ton of Free XP, so I decided to skip the T71 and T69 and just unlocked the T54E1. Not sure if either the T71 or T69 are worth having as a fun tank? Any opinions? If so, I'll go try them out.

Only one game in t he T54E1, but did alright. Seems like it could be a fun tank used correctly. Pop out and finish things off.

so yesterday took me up to 85 battles to get back to a 50% w/r god.
hopefully today goes better haha

 

[datalink7]

so yesterday took me up to 85 battles to get back to a 50% w/r god.
hopefully today goes better haha

Heh, well it didn't go better for me.

I had a decent few hours playing. Had a 60 percent win ratio. I should have left well enough alone. However, I had just had a loss, and though "I want to end the night on a win." Famous last words.

10 losses in a row later :/

I ended up with 53% overall.

 

[stag3]

i ended up "ok" for yesterday, took me about 60 some games to reach back up to 50% w/r
these 5x weekend take a lot out of you, i would have preferred 2x for every victory like EU got. then i could have made some progress on my type61 and leopard pta grinds.