[MMO] World of Tanks

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JumBie

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May 2, 2011
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Man I just had one of the best games ever in my Chaffee. Got 3000 EXP for the game, the highest I have ever gotten. Me and this Luchs just decided to scout and then flank the enemy base, we destroyed all their tds and arties. I just put my side up to the back of the tds and the arties so they couldn't shoot me or move and kept shooting at their back while the luchs popped shots at them.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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So I decided to give War Thunder Ground Forces a try, I must say, the damage model/system that they use is amazing. Instead of the health bars that WoT uses WT uses a penetration/crew system. You literally have to find the weak spots on each tank and try to pen it while also trying to kill crew members or modules. You get to see in bullet time where your shell went and what it did once it hit the tank. I am quite impressed, it kind of gives you a breath of fresh air compared to the standard pen/health system WoT uses.

It has got a lot better. I like the maps. Feel there is more variety to them and are bigger. Not as many choke points.
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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A frustration I have is lag.

Sometimes I'm playing a match and when anything happens, especially explosions but moving the view in to shoot also, and little hangs from a half second to a few seconds will happen. When it does I'll check the game's claims and my fps might be 50fps or 75fps, and ping is usually 25fps.

Rarely during the hangs those numbers get bad, but not usually.

I suspect it might have something to do with my PC slowing for disk activity, but not sure how to fix that short of buying a bigger SSD and putting it on that.

It doesn't always happen, but it's frequent enough. Rebooting seems to help.

It might be related to another issue, that just after my PC has been running a while I can see similar delays in Rift sometimes, load times get much longer, etc.
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Just played for the first time today since the last update. These. Personal. Missions. Are. Going. To. Take. Forever.

Though maybe it just seems like that because I couldn't care less about the first two tanks rewards, so I essentially have to do 3x sets of them before I get something I want (T55A). At least there are some decent side benefits (got a lot of money tonight. Did about 10 of them total in 25 games).
 

JumBie

Golden Member
May 2, 2011
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A frustration I have is lag.

Sometimes I'm playing a match and when anything happens, especially explosions but moving the view in to shoot also, and little hangs from a half second to a few seconds will happen. When it does I'll check the game's claims and my fps might be 50fps or 75fps, and ping is usually 25fps.

Rarely during the hangs those numbers get bad, but not usually.

I suspect it might have something to do with my PC slowing for disk activity, but not sure how to fix that short of buying a bigger SSD and putting it on that.

It doesn't always happen, but it's frequent enough. Rebooting seems to help.

It might be related to another issue, that just after my PC has been running a while I can see similar delays in Rift sometimes, load times get much longer, etc.

Your ping is 25fps or 25ms? What are your system specs?
 

Dresdenboy

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Jul 28, 2003
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A frustration I have is lag.

I suspect it might have something to do with my PC slowing for disk activity, but not sure how to fix that short of buying a bigger SSD and putting it on that.
Could be virtual memory swapping (I disable it if 8+GB RAM) and texture loading. What is your gfx mem's size?
 

Craig234

Lifer
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Your ping is 25fps or 25ms? What are your system specs?

ping about 25ms.

I don't think system specs are the main issue, since it's fine much of the time. AMD 965 II, 4870 1GB I think, 4GB RAM.

fps is usually showing something like 50fps or 75 fps. Sometimes 100 fps.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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I get that lag issue as well. Sometimes rebooting helps. Sometimes it doesnt help.

My specs

i2500K
8GB
250GB Samsung 840
EVGA GTX 770
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Finally got the top gun on Tigerr I. That is a fun tank to play.

Tiger I isn't a bad tank. It has great DPM with the top gun. You just have to not play it as a typical heavy. It doesn't have the armor for that. Play it as a long range sniper and it'll do well.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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Tiger I isn't a bad tank. It has great DPM with the top gun. You just have to not play it as a typical heavy. It doesn't have the armor for that. Play it as a long range sniper and it'll do well.

Yeah, used to play like this going through the British HT line....

Sometimes I feel like it is going really well, and then suddenly I wonder why I'm over powered by the number of enemies. Then I look at the score board....

 

JumBie

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May 2, 2011
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ping about 25ms.

I don't think system specs are the main issue, since it's fine much of the time. AMD 965 II, 4870 1GB I think, 4GB RAM.

fps is usually showing something like 50fps or 75 fps. Sometimes 100 fps.

It may very well be your graphics card, that is if you are gaming at 1080p. I used a gtx 260 a few months ago and it just couldn't handle the game. It would freeze and choke every now and then. I popped a 270x in and its been smooth sailing ever since (the gtx 260 and 4870 are similar).
 

gammaray

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Yeah, used to play like this going through the British HT line....

Sometimes I feel like it is going really well, and then suddenly I wonder why I'm over powered by the number of enemies. Then I look at the score board....



haha, looks like most of my games, very frustrating when all the scrubs are on our team...

 
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Craig234

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It may very well be your graphics card, that is if you are gaming at 1080p. I used a gtx 260 a few months ago and it just couldn't handle the game. It would freeze and choke every now and then. I popped a 270x in and its been smooth sailing ever since (the gtx 260 and 4870 are similar).

Thing is, if that was it, why would it usually be fine and a reboot help? Does the card have a limitation that sometimes happens? Must be something other than basic processing.
 

stag3

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i've had weird issues as well, sometimes i get 40fps, other times i get 100fps, makes no sense, i've just learned to live with it, when i can get 100fps i enable all options to max and enjoy the eye candy, when it slows down i have everything @ minimum so i can play

no other game has issues like wot
 

Scoobyd00

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I have never had very many problems with this game until the last patch.

9.6 happens I now i get at least one CTD every day. Along with having to reboot the game because the mouse will just stop working after coming out of a battle.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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Is the Aufklärungspanzer the worst tank in the game? It is bulky, low armor and no firepower. Besides the D.W. 2 this has to be the worst / most boring tank to play. I only have 33% win rate in this crap mobile. Is it worth grinding to the next tier or should I rather spend time going for new US scout line. Currently I have 50k in the t71.
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Is the Aufklärungspanzer the worst tank in the game? It is bulky, low armor and no firepower. Besides the D.W. 2 this has to be the worst / most boring tank to play. I only have 33% win rate in this crap mobile. Is it worth grinding to the next tier or should I rather spend time going for new US scout line. Currently I have 50k in the t71.

I actually think that the Aufklarungspanzer is a nice little tank, once fully upgraded. It gets a lot of flack because it is ugly and bulky, but I don't think it's half bad. I only played 7 games in it before getting impatient and getting the RU-251 (which is what I really wanted), but I won 4 of those games (57% wins). If I didn't have the free XP, I wouldn't have minded too much grinding for the RU.

The RU is awesome by the way. Totally worth it.
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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I'm not sure how I'm going to get top 3 xp and 2000 damage in arty. Just grinding for a huge damage game. I've got #1 damage by 1000 points, and that gets #7 xp.

That's on tier 10. I tried tier 5 to see if went better and one time got top 3 damage and xp, but 1000 damage - hard to see how to get 2000 damage low tier.

The problem seems to be that arty gives away half the xp for most kills to the spotter. I even tried td mode, forget it.
 
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Tiger I isn't a bad tank. It has great DPM with the top gun. You just have to not play it as a typical heavy. It doesn't have the armor for that. Play it as a long range sniper and it'll do well.

I've always played any Heavy as a front line role. It doesn't mean stay in the open to tank hits. It just means being present where the action is so you contribute to the match from the start of the battle. Long range sniper playstyle often fail to contribute when its most important, early game, to decide the match.

Tiger I in particular is a great front-line tank, you can put 2-3 shells into enemies for 1 of theirs so always trade with those ratios, never trade 1:1 due to lower alpha. With its DPM + HP, its a major threat to all tanks it faces.
 

JumBie

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I've always played any Heavy as a front line role. It doesn't mean stay in the open to tank hits. It just means being present where the action is so you contribute to the match from the start of the battle. Long range sniper playstyle often fail to contribute when its most important, early game, to decide the match.

Tiger I in particular is a great front-line tank, you can put 2-3 shells into enemies for 1 of theirs so always trade with those ratios, never trade 1:1 due to lower alpha. With its DPM + HP, its a major threat to all tanks it faces.

I hate nothing more than to see a bunch of heavies sitting in the back with the TD's pretending to do anything remotely useful for their team. And then they wonder why we lose at the end of the game.
 
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There's so little love for the old German TDs with all the new stuff lately, a lot of folks have the false believe its obsolete but I recently went up that line, its definitely still awesome.

JP2 and Jagtiger are among the best Tanks in tier I've driven, and I got a lot of games for the ISU & Obj 704 (played as long range support) along with other nation TDs. JP2 & JT both excel when played "in-your-face" style, hull-down and hold. Wiggle while reloading to get miracle bounces.





It's advantage is ROF for tier, you need to put out 2 shells and take 1 in return. As long as that happens, you'll win.
 
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I hate nothing more than to see a bunch of heavies sitting in the back with the TD's pretending to do anything remotely useful for their team. And then they wonder why we lose at the end of the game.

I used to do that early on, my early Tiger I performance was attrocious, ~1200 damage per game, 50% win-rate. Then more recently I decided to play it full-time front line, 70% win-rate and ~1900 damage per game.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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I used to do that early on, my early Tiger I performance was attrocious, ~1200 damage per game, 50% win-rate. Then more recently I decided to play it full-time front line, 70% win-rate and ~1900 damage per game.



Yeah I play front, middle using cover a lot. After getting the top gun I'm close to 60% win rate dealing lots of damage in most battles. Coming from the British HT line I know about using cover It reminds me of playing Caernarvon just better armor and a little slower....and of course a tier lower.
 

Scoobyd00

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Sep 11, 2002
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There's so little love for the old German TDs with all the new stuff lately, a lot of folks have the false believe its obsolete but I recently went up that line, its definitely still awesome.

JP2 and Jagtiger are among the best Tanks in tier I've driven, and I got a lot of games for the ISU & Obj 704 (played as long range support) along with other nation TDs. JP2 & JT both excel when played "in-your-face" style, hull-down and hold. Wiggle while reloading to get miracle bounces.


It's advantage is ROF for tier, you need to put out 2 shells and take 1 in return. As long as that happens, you'll win.

Love my JP2.
IMO its the best all around TD in the game at any tier. I run with the heavies or just behind the mediums and give them almost arty level DPM on the spot. Almost 2200 battles in it. It about the only tire 8 I dont mind playing anymore. Since its the only one I don't mind getting tier 10 battles in. Which since they got rid of battle tier 12 all of my 8's are in tier 10 battles constantly.

Ferdi, JT and jagzilla I hated. You are trading mobility for armor and with everybody slinging gold rounds armor is worthless. Not that they are bad tanks, just didnt like the play style of them and constantly getting penned by gold rounds.
 
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