Moka pot versus French press

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lxskllr

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I use a pourover for my bulk commodity coffee, a French press for my nice grind before use beans, and a moka for cappuccino type drinks, and the rare espresso. They all have a place.
 

Muse

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Spend ~100 and get a good burr grinder. Only grind however much bean you need for your pot of coffee and leave the whole beans in a sealed container that doesn't get exposed to a lot of heat or light (NOT A FRIDGE OR FREEZER).

I use about 5 different methods of coffee depending on my desired type of coffee and amount. Most days I use a bodum style pour over to make about a quart of coffee for my wife and I, but also have moka, multiple french presses, multiple pour overs.
I decided to check that out. There was a thread here around 5 years ago that I just revisited:


In that thread there was a lot of positive info on the Caprese 560 and I just ordered it.

Capresso 560.01 Infinity Conical Burr Grinder, Black

Should come in around a week. Today I ground 2/3 of a pound of whole beans in my blender. Then I compared that to store bought Folgers French Roast and it was uneven. I mean the Folgers was evenly ground and what I had was super fine to too coarse. There's no way I can make an even grind with my blade blender. I figure a conical burr grinder is going to grind relatively evenly. Appears to have 10 grinds to choose from. That's not a lot but I can probably deal with that with my brewing techniques... i.e. flame under my moka pot or preheat/stir/steep times with French press.
 
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snoopy7548

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I decided to check that out. There was a thread here around 5 years ago that I just revisited:


In that thread there was a lot of positive info on the Caprese 560 and I just ordered it.

Capresso 560.01 Infinity Conical Burr Grinder, Black

Should come in around a week. Today I ground a pound of whole beans in my blender. Then I compared that to store bought Folgers French Roast and it was uneven. I mean the Folgers was evenly ground and what I had was super fine to too coarse. There's no way I can make an even grind with my blade blender. I figue a conical burr grinder is going to grind relatively evenly. Appears to have 10 grinds to choose from. That's not a lot but I can probably deal with that with my brewing techniques... i.e. flame under my moka pot or preheat/stir/steep times with French press.

A pound of beans? How much coffee do you drink in a day?
 

JEDIYoda

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I decided to check that out. There was a thread here around 5 years ago that I just revisited:


In that thread there was a lot of positive info on the Caprese 560 and I just ordered it.

Capresso 560.01 Infinity Conical Burr Grinder, Black

Should come in around a week. Today I ground a pound of whole beans in my blender. Then I compared that to store bought Folgers French Roast and it was uneven. I mean the Folgers was evenly ground and what I had was super fine to too coarse. There's no way I can make an even grind with my blade blender. I figue a conical burr grinder is going to grind relatively evenly. Appears to have 10 grinds to choose from. That's not a lot but I can probably deal with that with my brewing techniques... i.e. flame under my moka pot or preheat/stir/steep times with French press.
Good Move, if I was into grinding my own coffee that is the way I would go!!
 

Muse

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A pound of beans? How much coffee do you drink in a day?
Well, my habit has been to grind 2lb at a time, refrigerate 1/2 of that in a full/packed quart container and keep the other 1/2 in a full/packed quart container on the shelf above my stove. The amount I use a day is probably about 1/2 cup of ground coffee.

Today, I ground 1/3 what I usually do, so have 2/3 of a quart ground.

I have been grinding in a blender. I know, that's unusual if not idiosyncratic. Well, I just realized why it's not the best idea, so ordered this grinder today. I'm glad I did. Meantime I have 2/3 quart of medium fine ground coffee to use before the grinder comes, which should be good timing! I figure to keep using my moka pot, just reduce the flame some. I encountered this site today that goes into a lot of detail on using moka pots. The blogger is an experience barista, has a lot of ideas, probably good, but he's clearly ESL. Anyway I think I understand what he's getting at.

 
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Muse

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My new Capresso conical burr grinder has revolutionized the way I make coffee. Still using the same SS mocha pot I've used since the middle 1980's. I grind fine, grind one cup's worth at a time (0.40 ounces of darkish roast beans). Brews a whole lot faster, doesn't clog my custom cut paper filters, makes a remarkably stronger cup of coffee for a given amount of beans. The grinder will, I figure, pay for itself in ~3 years in the cost saved in buying coffee beans.
 
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JM Aggie08

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We finally pulled the trigger on a purchase we've been planning/researching for years...a pro-sumer level espresso machine.

ECM Synchronika w/ Flow Control
Ceado e37s

Got a water filtration system on the way as well to direct plumb the bitch. Can. Not. WAIT.
 

Scarpozzi

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The Moka Pot works on the assumption that higher temp water extracts more flavor from the ground coffee, but it requires a stovetop. I've found that it works best when on lower heat...meaning, it takes longer for the steam to pressurize and brew, but the result is a better cup of coffee. I have a 6 cup version and it really only produces a few mug's of coffee. I typically will use medium roast with a fine-medium grind so less gets through the screen. The coffee tends to be stronger as a result of the recommendation to pack the basket with grounds. It's still pretty good stuff and you could definitely make Turkish style coffee with one of these.

The French Press method allows you to let the coffee steep for more or less time if you wish to have a weaker brew. An electric kettle takes the work out of boiling water and makes it pretty portable. My only gripe is that my press is glass and it cools down pretty quickly. So you need a kettle, press, and carafe...to keep it hot.

I vote the press because cleanup is easier. Both get grinds everywhere, but the moka pot cleanup is more difficult... when you unscrew the bottom half and really scrub it. The French press has less areas that can't be easily scrubbed...
 

KillerCharlie

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My new Capresso conical burr grinder has revolutionized the way I make coffee. Still using the same SS mocha pot I've used since the middle 1980's. I grind fine, grind one cup's worth at a time (0.40 ounces of darkish roast beans). Brews a whole lot faster, doesn't clog my custom cut paper filters, makes a remarkably stronger cup of coffee for a given amount of beans. The grinder will, I figure, pay for itself in ~3 years in the cost saved in buying coffee beans.

I bought that same grinder 7 years ago. I thought I was wasting money when I bought it, but if it ever breaks I'll immediately buy another one.
 
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slayer202

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I just bought a baratza encore grinder and it's a huge upgrade over my bodum burr grinder. Much more consistent grind and I already can taste the difference with my first cup brewed. Can't wait to dial it in more
 
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snoopy7548

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I just bought a baratza encore grinder and it's a huge upgrade over my bodum burr grinder. Much more consistent grind and I already can taste the difference with my first cup brewed. Can't wait to dial it in more

I bought one refurbished about four years ago and it's still going strong. Great little machine.
 
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