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r00tcause

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Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
Originally posted by: TechnoKid


Top fuel drag cars have been tuned to over 6000HP, what skyline can keep up with that????

OK, a Jet has whatever horsepower, what fuel car can keep up with....blah blah, that game can be played all night.

All the cars listed are very pricey cars, but are similar in price. I said that for the price of teh fancy Eurotrash cars you could most likely build a skyline that would take most of those cars on a strip. As for handling...they are AWD, which I think would at least attest to decent handling. The guys driving the car in the videos I have seen have had no problems that I could detect.



I guess someone forgot to tell you that many supercars have AWD now. Sorry to disappoint you.

Example, 195K Gets you a Lambo Murcielago AWD. Lets see, Murci or Skyline? Hmmm...

The problem with Import fans is that they are elitist and completely blind to other cars around them. Proof? He just called the cars in the list that was created "Eurotrash". Now thats funny.

You say a skyline can beat any of them on the strip? <sarcasm> Ok, because we all know drag racing is what makes a super car.</sarcasm> In that case, I can beat ANY Skyline you can build with a pushrod american car... I guess that means american pushrod V8's are better than skylines, right? No? Then what exactly is your point?








 

r00tcause

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Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
Japanese Car for $200k. Yeah right:roll: When you're in Ferrari, Lamborghini, and SL/CL 65 AMG, you better have something to compete. I'd take the 430 over this anyday.

EDIT: Doesn't mean I wouldn't take it, if I could buy it for $100k. It will pull a Enzo in resale value

Too bad the Skyline will hand them their ass. Mmmmmkay, thanks, goodbye - on to the next badge whore.

Thats a bold statement. Purpose built supercars vs. hopped up econoboxes (to the exTREEEEEEEM) is all this is. I'm not saying the Skyline is a bad car cause I know its not, but its playing in a class that it probably won't last too long in.

Enzo &amp; Carrera GT > Skyline.

Enzo and Carrera GT also cost half a million. This car should easily stay with or out perform the Ford GT, Ferrari F430, or Lambo Gallardo which are all of its closest competitors.

Not too long ago Top Gear had a Mitsu EVO beating the Lambo Murcielargo around their track (held up in the corners). Stop being so close minded.

Yeah that was a cool video. Mind you, it was a 500hp modified Evo with horrible turbo lag. The new EVO has a lot of potential though. I will end with this. You go buy your Skyline, enoy it. No one will ever get me to pay 200k for a SKYLINE. Skyline = very hopped up family sedan.

I still restate, I could destroy it with a 27k Ultima anyhow.



 

Tom

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If these Skylines are so amazing, why aren't I seeing them at Lemans, Daytona, etc ?

I see Corvettes, I see Dodge Vipers, I see Audis, tons of Porsches, I see Cadillacs and Pontiacs, Ferraris, I even see Mazdas.

How come I don't see a 1000hp Skyline winning the 24 Hours of Daytona ?

 

jspeicher

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Originally posted by: Tom
If these Skylines are so amazing, why aren't I seeing them at Lemans, Daytona, etc ?

I see Corvettes, I see Dodge Vipers, I see Audis, tons of Porsches, I see Cadillacs and Pontiacs, Ferraris, I even see Mazdas.

How come I don't see a 1000hp Skyline winning the 24 Hours of Daytona ?

because they are busy racing the the Japan GT Series Championships? with the rest of their kin?
 

BunLengthHotDog

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Originally posted by: r00tcause
Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
Originally posted by: TechnoKid


Top fuel drag cars have been tuned to over 6000HP, what skyline can keep up with that????

OK, a Jet has whatever horsepower, what fuel car can keep up with....blah blah, that game can be played all night.

All the cars listed are very pricey cars, but are similar in price. I said that for the price of teh fancy Eurotrash cars you could most likely build a skyline that would take most of those cars on a strip. As for handling...they are AWD, which I think would at least attest to decent handling. The guys driving the car in the videos I have seen have had no problems that I could detect.



I guess someone forgot to tell you that many supercars have AWD now. Sorry to disappoint you.

Example, 195K Gets you a Lambo Murcielago AWD. Lets see, Murci or Skyline? Hmmm...

The problem with Import fans is that they are elitist and completely blind to other cars around them. Proof? He just called the cars in the list that was created "Eurotrash". Now thats funny.

You say a skyline can beat any of them on the strip? <sarcasm> Ok, because we all know drag racing is what makes a super car.</sarcasm> In that case, I can beat ANY Skyline you can build with a pushrod american car... I guess that means american pushrod V8's are better than skylines, right? No? Then what exactly is your point?

You obviously didnt see my follow up post stating that "Eurotrash" was a joke...simply an expression, and that I would take any of those cars on that list in a heartbeat (if I had the money). Its also funny calling Japanese car fans elitist when there has been an equal or greater number of posts in this thread spewing crap such as "rice" etc. You calling 1000hp "ricer BS" is especially interesting, and doesnt sound the least bit "elitist". I also realise that many supercars now have AWD, that only further proves my point that the R33 and R34 likely have pretty good damn handling, "Hey all the supercars now have it"...with attention paid to a highly tuned suspension and handling system as well.

 

mAdD INDIAN

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The price seems about right, maybe even cheap considering what you get.

This is a race-car folks with race-car parts. That 2.8L long block ain't cheap, neither are the internals. The CF body panels probably spent a lot of time in the wind tunnel as well. Most of the money is probably due to R&amp;D and expensive materials (which is why most race-cars are expensive in the first place).

This is essentially a JGTC-homologated car for the streets, kinda like the CLK-GTR, except at a much smaller scale ($1 Million vs $150k).

Considering that the JGTC Skylines are usually faster than the Diablo's &amp; Porsches that they compete against, it stands to reason that this particular variation of the Skyline will be equally competitive.

Btw, google up the 'Godzilla' (R33 Skyline GT-R) that got banned from the Australian racing scene due to its domination.

Also, you can't compare the car (as a whole) to a Diablo, Murc, F430, etc.. because those are supercars. They have certain goals 1) Looks 2) Comfort/Class 3) Performance.

This particular Skyline was only designed for Performace. Not for comfort or showing off at an exclusive club.

Personally, I'd have a Gallardo for the streets AND this Skyline for the track.
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
The price seems about right, maybe even cheap considering what you get.

This is a race-car folks with race-car parts. That 2.8L long block ain't cheap, neither are the internals. The CF body panels probably spent a lot of time in the wind tunnel as well. Most of the money is probably due to R&amp;D and expensive materials (which is why most race-cars are expensive in the first place).

This particular Skyline was only designed for Performace. Not for comfort or showing off at an exclusive club.

I agree with most of what you said; I think this is really a streetable version of a JGTC car, however, I don't think its race-prepped enough for me, the ineterior is still too "friendly." Perahps my view of a race car is different than that of what is generally accpeted as such. My idea of a race car is a prototype class car, such that of say the Audi R8 LeMans racer.

Cost of motor and the car itself are little compared to the cost to R&amp;D and tune the car to perform well on the track (the R&amp;D of course is what makes the motor and car setup cost so much in the first palce). Of course, individual driver's prefrences would also alter how the car would be setup for the track. I don't know if I'd call this skyline a racecar, or a uber performing street car or supercar or whatnot. It is certainly unique in its ownself I suppose.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
The price seems about right, maybe even cheap considering what you get.

This is a race-car folks with race-car parts. That 2.8L long block ain't cheap, neither are the internals. The CF body panels probably spent a lot of time in the wind tunnel as well. Most of the money is probably due to R&amp;D and expensive materials (which is why most race-cars are expensive in the first place).

This is essentially a JGTC-homologated car for the streets, kinda like the CLK-GTR, except at a much smaller scale ($1 Million vs $150k).

Considering that the JGTC Skylines are usually faster than the Diablo's &amp; Porsches that they compete against, it stands to reason that this particular variation of the Skyline will be equally competitive.

Btw, google up the 'Godzilla' (R33 Skyline GT-R) that got banned from the Australian racing scene due to its domination.

Also, you can't compare the car (as a whole) to a Diablo, Murc, F430, etc.. because those are supercars. They have certain goals 1) Looks 2) Comfort/Class 3) Performance.

This particular Skyline was only designed for Performace. Not for comfort or showing off at an exclusive club.

Personally, I'd have a Gallardo for the streets AND this Skyline for the track.

did you see the pics of the interior? I suggest you look up what a racecar interior looks like...

Make no mistake that car is not a track special. Noble m12 will run circles around it with half of the price. Hell even a car like Lotus Exige should outrun it on a curvey track (again half the price).

For 170K i expect the car to be street version pf this, not a skyline with a big turbo, upgraded suspension and a big brake kit
 

mAdD INDIAN

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ok so I embelished a little.

It's not a true race-car interior, and it retains its original dash/knobs/etc.. but it does have that cool LCD which shows graphs and stuff!!

That said, the interior is functional and there's nothing "luxury" about it. It's not as stripped as its JGTC counterpart, but that doesn't reduce its intentions.
 

Rent

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
Japanese Car for $200k. Yeah right:roll: When you're in Ferrari, Lamborghini, and SL/CL 65 AMG, you better have something to compete. I'd take the 430 over this anyday.

EDIT: Doesn't mean I wouldn't take it, if I could buy it for $100k. It will pull a Enzo in resale value

Too bad the Skyline will hand them their ass. Mmmmmkay, thanks, goodbye - on to the next badge whore.

Thats a bold statement. Purpose built supercars vs. hopped up econoboxes (to the exTREEEEEEEM) is all this is. I'm not saying the Skyline is a bad car cause I know its not, but its playing in a class that it probably won't last too long in.

Enzo &amp; Carrera GT > Skyline.



Of course it won't last long in the class it's set for. It will define a new class because it will dominate the current class. Do some research before you open your mouth. The GT-R's when 1st put on the race curcuit in Japan dominated the series so bad that a new class of races had to be created just for them. They were destroying Porches and Ferrari's.

You missed the point. Its no longer in a class with 911s and F360/355s. Its going up against the big boys. Money doesn't matter at that point and thats when you'll truly see the limits of this car.

/resurrects thread to throw gasoline on the fire
 

RiDE

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Originally posted by: r00tcause
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
Japanese Car for $200k. Yeah right:roll: When you're in Ferrari, Lamborghini, and SL/CL 65 AMG, you better have something to compete. I'd take the 430 over this anyday.

EDIT: Doesn't mean I wouldn't take it, if I could buy it for $100k. It will pull a Enzo in resale value

Too bad the Skyline will hand them their ass. Mmmmmkay, thanks, goodbye - on to the next badge whore.

Thats a bold statement. Purpose built supercars vs. hopped up econoboxes (to the exTREEEEEEEM) is all this is. I'm not saying the Skyline is a bad car cause I know its not, but its playing in a class that it probably won't last too long in.

Enzo &amp; Carrera GT > Skyline.

Enzo and Carrera GT also cost half a million. This car should easily stay with or out perform the Ford GT, Ferrari F430, or Lambo Gallardo which are all of its closest competitors.

Not too long ago Top Gear had a Mitsu EVO beating the Lambo Murcielargo around their track (held up in the corners). Stop being so close minded.

Yeah that was a cool video. Mind you, it was a 500hp modified Evo with horrible turbo lag. The new EVO has a lot of potential though. I will end with this. You go buy your Skyline, enoy it. No one will ever get me to pay 200k for a SKYLINE. Skyline = very hopped up family sedan.

I still restate, I could destroy it with a 27k Ultima anyhow.

I honestly doubt YOU, ME, or any of these my e-penis is bigger than yours bench racers can even take a car to its limit on the track.
"I could destroy it with a 27k Ultima anyhow.
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That's funny. You? As opposed to ME in the same car? There's only a handful of people here who actually have track experience, if YOU do too then hey by all means keep mouthing off and I apologize for my mouthing off. I'm just ranting because I had a sh*tty day and nothing brings out the idiots like a car thread, hence why i'm in it too.
 

Stumps

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Hmmm I think i will buy one of those and remove it's running gear to fit to the Australian Holden VL commodore, which ran nissian skyline running gear from the factory, much lighter than the GT-R and whole lot more popular..In Australia anyway, with 500hp, should cover the quater mile in about 10 seconds, give or take a few tenths.
 

Baked

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Y'all can't afford it even if you sell half of the orphans from the tsunami.
 

Apex

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The Skyline is a fun to drive car though. Not sure I'd pay $200k for this example, but for about $50-60k, I wouldn't mind one. Got to drive a GTR V-Spec a couple years ago and it rocked. It's amazing how well it puts power to the ground. Sadly, I couldn't shift worth beans with my left hand.

The Ultima GTR may be $27k if you can do absolutely everything for yourself. However, the bare rolling chassis form is $89,000. You still need to add a SBC engine ($5k to $20k, depending on options), and a Porsche G50 tranny ($1k or so) to that, and then put it in (install is probably $5k or so to have a shop do it). Depending on the value of your time, it may be worth it to do it yourself. Unbelievable car though.
 
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