MSI military mobo's

[dawgtuff]

I noticed MSI is advertising military grade mobo's. They supposedly have high grade caps, a thicker board,etc. Is this true, or just a marketing scheme?

 

[Massive Overkill]

just a marketing scheme

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1524927

 

[smackababy]

I am in the military and if it actually is military grade, it is the cheapest POS you can buy.

 

[Elixer]

I am in the military and if it actually is military grade, it is the cheapest POS you can buy.

They didn't specify which military... it could be the specs for a 3rd world military.

 

[JBDan]

I just put together a MSI P67A-GD53 with 2500K and love it. Great price too. I just let OC genie do the work for me and it runs at 4.6 cool temps too. Had to back off the RAM voltage though manually to 1.5.

I overlooked the "military" nomenclature ... I bought it because it was the only atx 1155 board newegg had at the time =).

 

[dawgtuff]

While I was waiting for your replies, I did some more research. MSI doesn't elaborate on it's claim of military grade parts, and reviews show a lot of DOA's on recent purchases. I think I'll pass on this MSI mobo.

 

[Farmer]

They're components probably meet some MIL-SPEC. That doesn't really mean much.

My 2003 MSI motherboard was plagued with issues, like components dying (network, sound). Too bad they still have QC issues.

 

[Zap]

They didn't specify which military... it could be the specs for a 3rd world military.

LOL!

How about Gigabyte's "2oz copper PCB" marketing? I've seen it used on motherboards and on graphics cards. Where does the 2oz go? The PCBs are vastly different in size between the two so is the graphics card overkill or the motherboard getting skimped on?

 

[TorxT3D]

never had an msi board fail on me, then again im not a serious overclocker.
my p67a-gd65 runs great and cool, oc genie is a snap and works as advertised.

it also looks great with my twin frozr 560

 

[Rubycon]

Pure marketing BS.

If you believe it I have a few oxygen free bridges for sale!

 

[frostedflakes]

Yeah kind of like Gigabyte's UltraDurable, just marketing jargon. Not that MSI doesn't make some nice looking boards, though. Their really high-end boards with all tantalum caps always looked nice, I don't know if any other mobo manufacturers offer a comparable product. Last time I checked MSI was the only one that offered this.

 

[MaytagRepairman]

Military grade doesn't mean much to me if they don't back it up with a longer warranty. Typically MSI gives you a 3 year warranty (which is a good warranty) but so does several of their competitors.

 

[dawgtuff]

Thanks all...but how does one know what quality parts are used in a mobo? Frosted flakes mentioned tantalum caps, but how do you find that out?

 

[bryanl]

Military grade chips are rated to operate over a temperature range of -55C to +125C.

 

[dawgtuff]

OK, I know the durability of a component is the sum of it's parts and design, ie: It may have good caps, but bad power regulators. Is there any way one can tell if a component has good parts, or is there a review site that looks at components this way?

 

[infoiltrator]

Failure rate statistics tell you, after the fact.
This is always a problem with new designs. Just hope they got it right or you are lucky.
Sometimes I think shipping/handling can be as much a factor as design or execution.
Sometimes your build choices can find weakness that don't/didn't exist in product testing. I wonder how much is done in open air and stock coolers?
You pays ..

 

[The Boston Dangler]

LOL!

How about Gigabyte's "2oz copper PCB" marketing? I've seen it used on motherboards and on graphics cards. Where does the 2oz go? The PCBs are vastly different in size between the two so is the graphics card overkill or the motherboard getting skimped on?

that's 2 ounces of copper per some area. it could be a square yard or whatever size the pcb's are manufactured as.

 

[nenforcer]

I thought it meant you could modify it as body armor and it would stand up to M4A1 Carbine rifle shots.

Or am I confusing the MSI with the Gigabyte G1 Guerilla / Sniper / Assassin boards?