MSI Pro 2 from Multiwave ...!

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billyjak

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They also doubted me when I got my $258.00 Hitachi Superscan from Buycom last year.
Well I'm typing in front of it now.
It's better to beleive,than to suffer an agonising wait.
One who waits will only lose what Today has to offer
 

rempe

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Ive been buying from mwave for two years and they are hands down the best on the net.If you get a bad product they will rma it without any questions.Also just got my K7TPRO-2 nice board.Also theres a new bios 1.8 it increased memory bandwidth from 368 to 418.As for the loser that dosent belive its his loss GET A LIFE
 

Penchie

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Oct 24, 2000
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Gee Rempe

Now it's taken on religious proportions with the
believers telling the disbelievers to get a life and
whatnot.

So far one person has emailed me a pic
and u guessed it, he bought a pro and the box sez pro2
he's got no multiplier adjustments in the bios
he's got no pro2 markings between the slots
he's got a green sink.

He's sendin it back tomorrow

Til he sent the pic, he was convinced it was a 2
He is not as forgiving of Mwave as everyone else is.

He even sent a pic of the box, and yeah, I concur it says Pro2

Then they send
Neos a pro and he
still loves em

A friend of mine in Arlington who took the leap of "faith" ordered on Mon.
and his "PRO" arrived yesterday.

He does not still love em!

Sorry guys, but my negativity is not unfounded
especially when MWave themselves take it out of the box
and confirm it's a PRO.

This is my last post. I gotta go get a life as you put it.
and you gotta go get a K7T Pro from Mwave!
which they of course will cheerfully replace next week
when theirs like everyone elses arrives.
 

becat

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Mar 7, 2000
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Sorry to tell you, but I got mine few days ago, it is pro 2 and says pro 2 on the box and btw the slots on the mobo,too.

got my chrome orb too on the same day. Now it is time to get my computer up and running

Penchie, I think you are from other companies, and after seeing most peple got pro2 or got great service from Mwave you become unbalanced.
Since you said that was your last post, I don't think I will expect to see you here ever again.

I believe raising question is good, but please don't use the forum for any conspiracy.
 

BAMAVOO

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Oct 9, 1999
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THIS IS THE PRO2...The pro did not have clock adjustments..This one does..The utility Fuzzy Logic III allows you to set the overclocking while in windows..It also does it auto for you....I don't know why MWave is the only one with this board but there is no doubt it is a Pro2...



Neos..I just dropped my old GXP hard drive that I was running with my Intel setup and loaded the drivers from the MSI cd and off she went...Kickin' like a chicken!!!! No problems to speak of yet..

Oh yeah the bios talks to ya now too Well sort of..you can't understand a damn thing that is said..Sounds like that Teacher off Charlie Brown "Woop wuup WEeep WWOo MMm" LoL..
 

Fugifighter

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Oct 13, 2000
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Hey guys i'm happy .... the board i got from mwave IS a pro2, i can change multibplier and OC my duron 700 to 900 ... but the problem i'm seeing is that my voltage range goes from 1.3 to 1.7.. Brotherman, did you get that fixed some how???

Fugi
 

Penchie

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Oct 24, 2000
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Ok, guys.........
Bash me all u want but here is what I found out this morning.

I placed an order for two Pro2 boards Sun eve. after a gentleman
was kind enuff to oblige me in my quest for a photo of the elusive
beast, the 2....sure enuff, between the slots said 2! MWave's website
said that it was a Pro2 of course, like everyone has reported.

I called this morning to caution them against makin the same
error as they did with Neos who began this thread and I spoke
with Peter.

Peter stated that my order showed up as a Pro, not a 2
to which I directed Peter to their own webpage where it showed a 2
he stated it did not, and I then went to the page and sure enuff.....
no more 2's, go check fer yerself.

I of course cancelled the order.

Trying to uncover the enigma of the elusive twos from the one and single
only store that had them, I contacted MSI and the girl Michelle I spoke
with stated that a distributor was sent 35 pre production boards as well
as 40 production boards from
Taiwan in error and that apparently Mwave ended up with them.

Now they're gone, and so the mystery ends.........
I asked her how u tell a production board from a pre production board
and she stated that the production boards come with all attachment
hardware as well as the rear socket plate, which the pres do not.

According to Davie Petrose with Ingram Micro, all you guys that got pro2's
got the same pre production board that Henry reviewed.......or a production
board in the case of about 60 percent of the bunch

not necessarily a bad thing as they probably function flawlessly, but
at least I now know what the answer to the riddle was "why only one shop in
the whole country"

Guess I have another week to wait for the other shops to get em in, but
as for now MWave is in the same boat as everyone else, sellin Pros.........

Thanks



Penchie

 

Wolfman35

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Oct 9, 1999
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OK ... Here's my Pro 2 story as of today. I ordered "several" from Mwave on Friday (11-2). I recieved them today and they are ALL Pro 2's with the GOLD sink and the Big Capacitors AND BIOS Adjustments. I'm sure I was one of the last to order but just judging from THIS THREAD I believe there are more than 40 Pro 2 boards out there from Mwave. I do notice that TODAY (11-6) the Mwave website no longer lists the Pro 2 under the 6330 listing. It has been ammended to read simply "Pro". The "DEAL" seems to be over and I bet we all have "Penchie" to thank for ending it.

Penchie: The ones I got are definitely Retail boards with all hardware attached and included. All the documentation is in English. I'll be happy to send you pictures .... Feel free to E-mail me. I think the "Story" you got from both Ingram and MSI may have been just that ... A Story. You also have to wonder how Mwave can sell the 6337 for $109 when Ingrams qty. price is considerably higher than that. (Yes I have access to Ingrams pricing) Interesting stuff going on here I agree but your sour grapes are bordering on Paranoia dude.
 

john433i

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Where is the Pro2 on Mwave's site now? I saw it a few days ago, but now i don't see it, and its not on Pricewatch either anymore.
 

Penchie

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right Wolfman, you have "penchie" to thank!

Penchie didn't deplete a single board from em cuz of his "paranoia"
but you on the otherhand state in your post you've ordered
"Several More"

So who again ended the deal?

Truth be known, MWave still has 15000 of em sittin in their
warehouse, ready and waiting to ship, but they decided
to change the website to read PRO just for Penchie
because he called up to make absolutely sure he was gettin a 2 unlike Neos!

How's about the 10 or so guys who have posted over the last couple
of weeks sayin they got Pros? did they end the deal for ya too??

I'll get back to ya on that Wolf, I gotta go pick some sour grapes

hehe


signed



paranoid Penchie


:|
 

Wolfman35

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Penchie: Of course it's ALL speculation but you have to believe that MWave was selling thier first allocation of the Pro 2 boards (that 15,000 that you refer to) prior to MSI's official release date. Now what would cause them to suddenly stop this?? My guess is that SOMEONE complained loudly enough about it that MSI made a call to MWave and "presto".... the Listing changes. Now it WASN'T Me that complained. I wonder who it was???

Fact is that MOST major suppliers do already have thier allocation of the Pro 2 boards in stock and the "Story" about engineering samples was BS. This is common practice with many manufacturers (Started by Intel/IBM). Does anybody really believe that Inventory just magically appears on warehouse shelves ON the exact release date for a Product? Bottom line is that SOMEBODY squealed and ended the deal. That shoe doesn't fit me but have you tried it on there Cinderella?

This same situation happens all the time in the Hot Deals Forum where some "paranoid" skeptic CALLS the company and alerts them to the fact that they have under-priced/mis-priced an Item .... effectively killing the "Deal" for everyone else. Not really within the scope of this forum ya know. We're supposed to be a "TEAM" Working together. I guess you're just not a Team player huh??

Bottom line: The Pro 2 is an AWESOME Board. More stable on Voltage than the Abit or Asus and just as fast/smooth. I have an 850 T-Bird at 1200 on the Pro 2. That same chip would only do 1100 on an A7V or KT7. Don't you wish YOU had one Penchie?? You could have ya know with just a little bit of faith in a VERY Solid Company and the "Team" here at Anandtech. Ya gotta have faith.
 

artemedes

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Checking in as promised. Mine came today from Mwave. Guess what......






















It is indeed a Pro2. Even says so between the pci slots. Also I am typing away at 1030 mhz. Now how'd I do that if I was using an original Pro and an 800 tbird? Well the bios multipliers are nice. It seems to like 10X103. Will play with it more to get more accurate idea of stability and capibilities.


Regarding the funny bios voice. Mine was set to a default of chinese and did indeed sound like charlie browns teacher LOL. I pulled the jumper (by the pci slots) and now I can almost make out an english "system available" when cold boots.

Penchie: I don't know why Mwave is the only one with this board. Furthermore it is painfully obvious by the number of posts here that Neos was just the victim of an innocent mistake. Gee, I think this is the first time that happened on a mailorder item. It is also obvious that you don't seem to respect the word of your fellow anandtech members by the length and attitude in your post. It really does seem like your just trying to get people not to order from mwave. What's your beef with them anyway? Who do you work for?

To everybody else, have a good evening and enjoy your mythical motherboard that only exists in your mind.

 

compuwiz1

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Mine will be here in the morning from Mwave. I ordered one board to test. After I put it thru the test, if I like it I will be ordering many more. Hopefully, by then the supply will be up. That was a damn nice price for that board.
 

Neos

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Got mine back today. Pro 2....YEA! Mounted the 650 Duron & FOB32 on it..will finish it Wed. Good luck to thr rest of you that are seeking one.
Neos
 

becat

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Hehe with the price of that board compare to most of the KT133 on the market, it is well worth it (20 to 30 bucks differences) and it is a pro 2, too. I am happy I got it.
 

Henry Kuo

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I am glad that most of you guys, who are looking for a Pro2, got your boards

Thanks to all those who contribute in findint a site (MWAVE) that carries them.

I hope the board reflects what I have said in the review. If you come across any problems, let me know
 

Argile

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I got my Pro2 board today as well. I read the review and finally decided to sell my p3 and switch to the athlon. I picked up a retail thunderbird 800 with it. Just installed it and its working great at 900 running about a 41c temp.

Now just to get a better heatsink and see if I can make 950-1ghz.

One difference I noticed between review board and the retail is that the retail has 7 4700uf capacitors around the cpu.
 

Henry Kuo

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Yes, seemlingly MSI has gone yet another step and put in all 4700uF caps. I think I gotta update my review as well
 

Sporko

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Does anyone know when this board will be widely available?

I tried to get one from Mwave last week but despite what their website says, the guy I talked to said they would not ship to Canada under any circumstances. Not even with a wire transfer as stated on their site.

 

dummjock

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Yeah, if someone could help me and Sporko out that would be great... We NEED these boards here in Cananda! Any news as to if anyone has them or if anyone knows a place in canada that wil release them soon?
 

Wiplash

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Umm just wish MSI would upgrade there bios as much as SOYO, It seems everyday lol they updated there bios.... I always like to see what stuff they add And I wonder why they have not updated the K7T Pro and K7T Pro 2 pages with the new 1.8 BIOS? Any one use the new BIOS any new imporvements beside faster mem? New tweaking option added?
 

compuwiz1

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WEll, I just got my board and yep, it's a Pro 2. Man those 7 4700uf capacitors are sky scrapers!
 
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