Mueller indicts Russians

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dyna

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Winner! She's the most maligned presidential candidate I can remember.

It is quite possible none of this would have happened if she had not run.

Do you know what she did to receive so much attention from them?
 

rise

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It is quite possible none of this would have happened if she had not run.

Do you know what she did to receive so much attention from them?
She was vocally afainst russian intersts in Ukraine and has pressed for sanctions for that, iirc/ Of course, the hatred from putin goes back a long way but he saw that incident as embarrassing him and his cronies.
 

brandonbull

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Where is your line regarding collusion. I’m interested and it’s an opinion so no answer is wrong.
What would need to happen or be shown for you guys to say Trump colluded?

Ok, I'll bite. If he actively worked and conspired with Russian government officials to with coordinating election misinformation via social media and rallies, I guess that could be considered collusion.
 

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Let's go to fantasy land and say we proved that Trump indeed had nothing to do with Russia's actions in our election whatsoever.

What do you think should be done about his refusal to acknowledge and act against this hostile action, and in particular his blatant refusal to implement sanctions passed by Congress?

Are you saying that Trump should destabilize relations with a powerful country based on the words from a group of people trying to impeach him? I thought we beat up Bush because he acted on false information? I remember not that long ago that thinking Russia was bad was 1980's cold war policy thinking and that the Russians had not hacked our election.
 

Jhhnn

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It is quite possible none of this would have happened if she had not run.

So what?

Do you know what she did to receive so much attention from them?

She's an extremely competent administrator & would undoubtedly follow Obama's policy of breaking Russian balls for their aggression in Ukraine. It's obviously hurting them.
 

brandonbull

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So what?



She's an extremely competent administrator & would undoubtedly follow Obama's policy of breaking Russian balls for their aggression in Ukraine. It's obviously hurting them.

Obama admin did the opposite of breaking Russian balls. He was cupping them and hoping for a reset.
 

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Are you saying that Trump should destabilize relations with a powerful country based on the words from a group of people trying to impeach him? I thought we beat up Bush because he acted on false information? I remember not that long a go that thinking Russia was bad was 1980's cold war policy thinking and that the Russians had not hacked our election.

Hahahaha fuck man pass me some of that.

I think the impeach Trump movement needs a slogan. How about #MAGA?
 

Jhhnn

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Obama admin did the opposite of breaking Russian balls. He was cupping them and hoping for a reset.

Which doesn't explain crippling sanctions in the wake of Russian aggression in Ukraine. That's also just about the time they started messing with our political processes, too.
 
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rise

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From indictment 55 a-d:

"a. In or around August 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators used false U.S. personas to communicate with Trump Campaign staff involved in local community outreach about the “Florida Goes Trump” rallies."

Mueller's wording is very careful throughout but also leaves a few clues as to where this is heading, I think. Here we have direct contact with the trump campaign under the cover of all this contact with Americans was done "unwittingly".

Coming soon, as Mueller lays out his case and the indictments continue, we'll start seeing names. Should be crazy.
 

rise

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From the same 55.d

"For example, Defendants and their co-conspirators asked one U.S. person to build a cage on a flatbed truck and another U.S. person to wear a costume portraying Clinton in a prison uniform. Defendants and their co-conspirators paid these individuals to complete the requests."

I wasn't gonna post this part but I caught a glimpse of hannity and well here it is, haha
 
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From the same 55.d

"For example, Defendants and their co-conspirators asked one U.S. person to build a cage on a flatbed truck and another U.S. person to wear a costume portraying Clinton in a prison uniform. Defendants and their co-conspirators paid these individuals to complete the requests."

I wasn't gonna post this part but I caught a glimpse of hannity and well here it is, haha
You really do have to read the entire thing line by line on your own to appreciate the entire picture. This was carefully orchestrated and they knew where and how to have the biggest impact.
 

rise

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You really do have to read the entire thing line by line on your own to appreciate the entire picture. This was carefully orchestrated and they knew where and how to have the biggest impact.
It is. Its also a backhanded, wake-up slap to Americans with the examples laid out, "Are you really this fucking stupid?".
 

Younigue

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I get that, but I can also find new interesting things. I also use this forum to explore how people interact. I don't do things to provoke, but, this forum allows me to be more direct on some topics.

For example, if the person I originally responded to were to make that statement in RL and I were to give my response, people would get annoyed and think "what a know it all, who cares". That is because his statement was really rhetorical and just a way for him to vent about Russia and the Right. So in rl would just ignore it and say nothing.

We are not in RL, so the backlash here is confined. If I don't log in, it ends. So I say, what the hell and speak when I'm curious.

Now, most people do not think of this forum that way. So they see me doing things that they think signal I'm this or that, because, in RL things move fast so you have to take shortcuts. So when statement A is made that is pro X, and I disagree with any part of statement A, I must be in support of Y that is in opposition. Logically that is wrong, but that is how most think.

But, if I can get the information I am seeking then I'm fine with the judgements.

Now, I'm not cruel so if I think someone is suffering I stop. I have sent PM's to people to check up on them. My goal is to be entertained, but I also have a compassion for people, so if people get too upset it loses it's fun and I stop.
What if I told you the tedium of it hurts my feeling? I've only got the one so be gentle with it.

So just give me some idea of how many more posts you intend to dedicate to Hillary could still be guilty if only of, let's say a parking ticket (Criminally Insane Wench!)?Will it be 10, 20, endless, not willing to commit?

Btw, I've thought about it and I don't actually care. Power on! Hillary is likely the Devil!... Discuss.

P.S. Wish she were president!
 

rise

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It is quite possible none of this would have happened if she had not run.
I ignored this as a useless whatif at first but it got me thinking. Its a valid question but I think more applicable to trump. It took a very special base for all of this to erupt as it did and I;m sure putin was elated when trump showed a punchers chance. That was a base he could use.
 
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Holy shit you're so fu*king stupid. Stupid stupid stupid! Oh you're also completely useless to the human race. The idiot race (which is now a thing because of the Russian sponsored ushering in of the Trump Era) is absolutely benefiting from your existence among them. I suppose that's a proud moment for you. Shut the fu*k up Shit Stain.
Hey chubster, glad you could back away from the table long enough to give me a reply.
 
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Obstruction of justice, firing Comey? He confessed it right there on prime time. I guess that means that your red line is a markup of how congress is mixed, cause a democratic majority would have impeached right then and there
I don't see where firing a dipshit like Comey who so richly deserved to be fired is obstruction of justice. Hiring a lawyer doesn't count as obstruction either.
 

rise

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Was President Trump included in this last round of indictments? No. Let me know when and if he is.
oh, he will not emerge from this unscathed, nor will his silver spooned, conniving, shitty kids. They'll all be disgraced, its coming just not soon enough.

The real question will be if we want to send them to jail. That's a high bar to reach when considering our national honor, or whats left of it when thest scum are eradicated.
 
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