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Jhhnn

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Trump would be the one to back for the actual office since he would at least to their unbiased statistical reasoning be the absolute worst thing for us

Trumpsters do seem to be having trouble with that. Maybe that's because the message is the same message the GOP has been pounding into their heads for decades.
 
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How many tears do you think he's won? He's losing at life so losing seems to be his thing but maybe he's won a single tear.

I agree he's not a traitor but he sure as shit likes to play one on the interwebs.

The little fascista is simply not worth anything more than ridicule.
 

rise

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From politico...
"National security adviser H.R. McMaster echoed the point, telling the Munich Security Conference that the evidence of Moscow’s interference is “incontrovertible.”
“Whereas in the past it was difficult to attribute … now this is in the arena of law enforcement investigation, it’s going to be very apparent to everyone,” he said."

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Keeping national security in mind of course but I can't imagine all will be protected.
 
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From politico...
"National security adviser H.R. McMaster echoed the point, telling the Munich Security Conference that the evidence of Moscow’s interference is “incontrovertible.”
“Whereas in the past it was difficult to attribute … now this is in the arena of law enforcement investigation, it’s going to be very apparent to everyone,” he said."

Names Names Names

Keeping national security in mind of course but I can't imagine all will be protected.

I can’t help but think the “incontrovertible” word was used hoping that Trump wouldn’t understand the word and think it’s actually “inconceivable”

For our Russian friends incontrovertible means: not able to be denied or disputed
 
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Just watch the maddow piece and if there is a "fact" you dont agree with, bring it up here and we will discuss it like adults .. no name calling - or singing.
I especially agree with Maddow at @13:12 when she says " There's nothing in this indictment ,either way, when it comes to the question whether any Americans colluded with this Russian operation. This indictment doesn't make any allegations about that at all ................."
 

ivwshane

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I especially agree with Maddow at @13:12 when she says " There's nothing in this indictment ,either way, when it comes to the question whether any Americans colluded with this Russian operation. This indictment doesn't make any allegations about that at all ................."

That's weird, isn't she trying to push an agenda?
 

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I especially agree with Maddow at @13:12 when she says " There's nothing in this indictment ,either way, when it comes to the question whether any Americans colluded with this Russian operation. This indictment doesn't make any allegations about that at all ................."
Totally agree. Watch the same story on ie. Fox (or Trumps tweets) and you'll see this fact spun as proof that there never was any collusion at all. That is a logical fallacy. Maybe there was, maybe there wasnt. All we know is that *this* evidence does not support it.
 

rise

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Totally agree. Watch the same story on ie. Fox (or Trumps tweets) and you'll see this fact spun as proof that there never was any collusion at all. That is a logical fallacy. Maybe there was, maybe there wasnt. All we know is that *this* evidence does not support it.
Exactly and was nevcer meant to. As many times illustrated, the trumpets are so busy today defending yesterday they see not tomorrow.
 

Moonbeam

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Trumpsters do seem to be having trouble with that. Maybe that's because the message is the same message the GOP has been pounding into their heads for decades.
The same message you would use to destroy a country by dividing and subverting democracy would be the same message politics controlled by the 1% would use to divide the country to destroy democracy. The message in some way or another is always fear. People who hate themselves already can't take the additional shame they are easily manipulated. They hide behind notions of American exceptionalism, God and Country to bolster their egos rather than the analytical capacity that brings real self respect, a capacity to think for oneself to seek truth rather than succumb to moral cowardliness. We are no longer children who have to kowtow to being brow beaten to survive.
 

Younigue

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Too many here (and in other places) treat them far too seriously. They're shits who should never be taken seriously.
Agreed but I do love giving them the gears. It's therapeutic for how completely frustrated I am by the current climate. I believe in climate change both with what Trump, Russia and the GOP are doing and encouraging and ya know, climate change.
 

Younigue

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My parents are hard core Trumpettes and I'm struggling with them over many issues.
That must be difficult. I'm sorry.

I've been pleasantly surprised that my life long Republican father has changed his views almost entirely. Life conspired to show him that a lot of his beliefs were anchored in fear, insecurity, lack of life experience, being uninformed. Lo and behold, the more he educated himself and opened up as well as faced difficult things he became a decent human being... No longer hating other races, no more hating gays, no more thinking Medicine for profit is a good thing, no more thinking education or prison for profit is a good thing, no more thinking his guns were an important part of his persona, no more hating religious freedom. In fact, little to no judgement whatsoever. He won't even judge my nearly 30 year old nephew who has never worked a day in his life or budged from his computer desk since the day he graduated high school. I judge him!
 

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What I find most hard to reconcile is not just vlad the impalers filmography but also the fact that it wasn't just australian officials that passed information to the FBI. About trump campaign staff having contact with russians but it was also intelligence from other allied countries. That sparked the investigation. It would seem reasonable to conclude that if these intelligence agencies were aware. Then the russians were under surveillance. Which would make them either known operatives of the SVR or they are so closely aligned with russian intelligence operations that it makes them worthy of surveillance.

Because those countries deem them to be a threat to their own national security. I am not talking about the steele dossier either. I am talking about intelligence sharing between allied countries. I guess those sanctions over the russians invasion of ukraine really pissed vlad the impaler off.
 
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rise

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What I find most hard to reconcile is not just vlad the impalers filmography but also the fact that it wasn't just australian officials that passed information to the FBI. About trump campaign staff having contact with russians but it was also intelligence from other allied countries. That sparked the investigation. It would seem reasonable to conclude that if these intelligence agencies were aware. Then the russians were under surveillance. Which would make them either known operatives of the SVR or they are so closely aligned with russian intelligence operations that it makes them worthy of surveillance.

Because those countries deem them to be a threat to their own national security. I am not talking about the steele dossier either. I am talking about intelligence sharing between allied countries. I guess those sanctions over the russians invasion of ukraine really pissed vlad the impaler off.
Well, it hasn't been just our elections they've been mucking with; they've attacked every euro democracy for the most part.Of course there has always been espionage throughout time but these new grass root campaigns have never been as successful as we made them.

I worry about how fast tech in VR, AR and generally is going to effect us going forward. False flag attacks could become very, very viable.
 
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