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Phynaz

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Yep, trump swore that he’d protect the US, but is doing nothing to stop the Russians. He’s failed at the most basic level, he’s broken his oath to the office and the American people he swore to protect.

How do you feel Obama did in relation to Russians?
 
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Why did he publically ask for them to continue interfering with our election (2016) and why does he refuse to enact sanctions, supported by everyone in this country, in response to proven Russian interference in those same elections? Is it because he publically aided/supported them in their actions? Is that why he refuses to act in this country's best interest?

Is this the kind of useless, proudly uninformed, and cowardly leadership that you prefer?
Has he or has he not recently killed Russians and sold arms to Russia's enemies? He has. Soundforbjt stated that Trump was doing "nothing". Soundforbjt got caught in a lie.

End of story as far as i'm concerned.

Next time hopefully he won't spew such an all inclusive lie.
 

soundforbjt

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How do you feel Obama did in relation to Russians?
Not as strong as I would’ve liked, but he was in a difficult position wrt to the elections, if he said anything trumpets would’ve claimed he was aiding Hillary, he was in a no win situation there. But in comparison to Trump, he was way tougher, trump hadn’t said ONE bad word about Putin.
 

soundforbjt

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Has he or has he not recently killed Russians and sold arms to Russia's enemies? He has. Soundforbjt stated that Trump was doing "nothing". Soundforbjt got caught in a lie.

End of story as far as i'm concerned.

Next time hopefully he won't spew such an all inclusive lie.
Trump didn’t even know they were Russians until after the fact, he probably called Putey to apologize.
 
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fskimospy

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Not as strong as I would’ve liked, but he was in a difficult position wrt to the elections, if he said anything trumpets would’ve claimed he was aiding Hillary, he was in a no win situation there. But in comparison to Trump, he was way tougher, trump hadn’t said ONE bad word about Putin.

Obama made a pretty large mistake in that he allowed Republicans to prevent him from taking steps to prevent a hostile foreign power from intervening in our election.

Obviously the Republicans that pushed for that are far, far worse, but we depended on Obama to protect the country from unscrupulous people like McConnell and he failed there.
 

Jhhnn

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Obama made a pretty large mistake in that he allowed Republicans to prevent him from taking steps to prevent a hostile foreign power from intervening in our election.

Obviously the Republicans that pushed for that are far, far worse, but we depended on Obama to protect the country from unscrupulous people like McConnell and he failed there.

The GOP could not afford to admit that the Russians were on their side of the election nor can they afford to do so today. It's not just about Trump being an incompetent & a havoc generator but about his policies & theirs being detrimental to America.

That's why Putin support the American right. They're tearing America apart & have been for decades.
 

Phynaz

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Not as strong as I would’ve liked, but he was in a difficult position wrt to the elections, if he said anything trumpets would’ve claimed he was aiding Hillary, he was in a no win situation there. But in comparison to Trump, he was way tougher, trump hadn’t said ONE bad word about Putin.

I don't mean just the elections, but his entire term in office. Could you point out good and bad aspects of his dealings with Russia?
 

jackstar7

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I don't mean just the elections, but his entire term in office. Could you point out good and bad aspects of his dealings with Russia?
Didn't he kick out a bunch of their people, impose sanctions, and close up some of their places? Just for stuff off the top of my head.

Is there something you're looking for?
 

Thebobo

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Have you ever in your pitiful existence in this country applied those standards to any other President or to any other person? Ever?

Damn thats a poor effort to switch the topic and not answer the question. Gonna have to give it a 2 out of 10 effort there taj. sorry, just a piss poor job.
 

alien42

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cytg111

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"He is the son-in-law of Russian billionaire German Khan, who is one of the most prominent businessmen in Russia. Khan co-founded Alfa Group, a large financial conglomerate, and was recently named in the Treasury Department's list of Russian oligarchs."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Khan

"In May 2017 Khan, along with fellow Alfa-Bank owners Mikhail Fridman and Petr Aven, filed a defamation lawsuit against BuzzFeed for publishing the Donald Trump–Russia dossier, which alleges financial ties and collusion between Putin, Trump, and the three bank owners."
 

cytg111

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Khan

"In May 2017 Khan, along with fellow Alfa-Bank owners Mikhail Fridman and Petr Aven, filed a defamation lawsuit against BuzzFeed for publishing the Donald Trump–Russia dossier, which alleges financial ties and collusion between Putin, Trump, and the three bank owners."

Remeber the odd database replication link between trump tower and a russian bank during campaign? Yea that was Alfa-Bank

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/la...6-meddling-about-to-be-confirmed-to-doj-post/

"Trump’s nominee to chair the Justice Department’s criminal division previously served as the attorney for a Russian bank" ... "Brian Benczkowski"

"when they[Alfa-Bank] decided to put together a high-powered legal team to defend themselves against news reports and investigations into that thing with their server and the Trump Organization.” ... "The man they hired was Brian Benczkowski"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqzN2Iy91Wg
 
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feralkid

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Didn't he kick out a bunch of their people, impose sanctions, and close up some of their places? Just for stuff off the top of my head.

Is there something you're looking for?


It's the latest Team Trump talking point; after being forced to finally admit that Russia has meddled in our politics, they cooked up this horse shit rebuttal.
 
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