Mueller indicts Russians

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That's a lie. He has used military force on more that one recent occasion against Russia and has sold arms to Russia's enemies. Pull your fvcking head out of your ass.

I'm sure that Vladi still loves his favorite little fascista. Is he paying you yet or are you still working for free.
 
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Has he or has he not recently killed Russians and sold arms to Russia's enemies? He has. Soundforbjt stated that Trump was doing "nothing". Soundforbjt got caught in a lie.

End of story as far as i'm concerned.

Next time hopefully he won't spew such an all inclusive lie.

полезный идиот
 

alien42

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Remeber the odd database replication link between trump tower and a russian bank during campaign? Yea that was Alfa-Bank

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/la...6-meddling-about-to-be-confirmed-to-doj-post/

"Trump’s nominee to chair the Justice Department’s criminal division previously served as the attorney for a Russian bank" ... "Brian Benczkowski"

"when they[Alfa-Bank] decided to put together a high-powered legal team to defend themselves against news reports and investigations into that thing with their server and the Trump Organization.” ... "The man they hired was Brian Benczkowski"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqzN2Iy91Wg

This is huge and should be the headline of the day. The puzzle pieces are really starting to fall into place.
 
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trenchfoot

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The world of American politics may have been turned on its head the day Trump took over and started messing things up on Putin's orders but the one and only consistent entity that has managed to survive Trump's tweet tantrums, divert to subvert shenanigans and the liar's convention he holds on a daily basis in the West Wing is his bonafide loonie base.

They are loyal to the point where I'm beginning to suspect that Putin has got something on every one of them too. Yep, I say this with the thought in mind that what I've mentioned is just as plausible as any other explanation that even Stephen Hawking could come up with.
 
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soundforbjt

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SHS couldn’t even say Russia when asked if Drumpf was outraged that Russia meddled in the election. She said he’s outraged that AANYONE would meddle in our election. She couldn’t say Russia in that context.
 

Younigue

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strategic? Sure.. Beautifully? Thats a stretch... I would put this piece in the "stupid watergate" bucket... Like firing comey and on live the say "cause russia".
Yes of course it's stupid Watergate. You are 100% correct.

But Mueller... I'm hoping in the end of all this I can say I'm in love with him, you'll join me I assume? I think strategically this was a push to try and flip Manafort. Along with the new charges. Pressure pressure pressure. That's why I'm contemplating calling it a beautiful move. I want it to have been.
 
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soundforbjt

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Mueller still has a ways to go, 41 indicted in Watergate. Stupid Watergate should be good for a few more than that.
 

brandonbull

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Why did he publically ask for them to continue interfering with our election (2016) and why does he refuse to enact sanctions, supported by everyone in this country, in response to proven Russian interference in those same elections? Is it because he publically aided/supported them in their actions? Is that why he refuses to act in this country's best interest?

Is this the kind of useless, proudly uninformed, and cowardly leadership that you prefer?

Why didn't Obama move to stop Russia interference, stating that it was silly to say Russia was a threat, and they had no impact on our elections? Once the Queen didn't win the election, Russia became dangerous again.
 

HomerJS

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Why didn't Obama move to stop Russia interference, stating that it was silly to say Russia was a threat, and they had no impact on our elections? Once the Queen didn't win the election, Russia became dangerous again.
The report by out intel agencies was completed in the summer of 2016. Obama went to Mitch McConnell so a joint statement could be issued, an attempted show of unity. Mitch threatened to cry Obama was fixing the election. Trump was already claiming the election was going to be rigged. The gas-lighting had already taken place. You would have been one of the first here to scream Obama rigged the election. Rather then foment potential civil unrest Obama decided Hilary was probably going to win this so he didn't release a statement. In fact everyone including Trump himself thought he was going to lose.

In hindsight Obama should have just said fuck those guys, release it and live with the consequences. You see, unlike you boy Trump Obama made the decision he thought was best for the country not himself. Something Trump will never understand.
 

fskimospy

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The report by out intel agencies was completed in the summer of 2016. Obama went to Mitch McConnell so a joint statement could be issued, an attempted show of unity. Mitch threatened to cry Obama was fixing the election. Trump was already claiming the election was going to be rigged. The gas-lighting had already taken place. You would have been one of the first here to scream Obama rigged the election. Rather then foment potential civil unrest Obama decided Hilary was probably going to win this so he didn't release a statement. In fact everyone including Trump himself thought he was going to lose.

In hindsight Obama should have just said fuck those guys, release it and live with the consequences. You see, unlike you boy Trump Obama made the decision he thought was best for the country not himself. Something Trump will never understand.

I love how republicans are now trying to blame Obama for letting republicans coerce him into inaction. These people have totally lost their minds.

When Mueller issues his final report and if it’s as damning as I think it’s going to be amazing/terrifying to see what sort of combination of rage, conspiracy theories, denial, and claims of persecution the right will spin itself up into. One thing I’m sure of though is there will be no acceptance that they fucked up and chose the wrong guy, no admission of wrongdoing, and no lessons learned. It will be everyone else’s fault.
 
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brandonbull

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The report by out intel agencies was completed in the summer of 2016. Obama went to Mitch McConnell so a joint statement could be issued, an attempted show of unity. Mitch threatened to cry Obama was fixing the election. Trump was already claiming the election was going to be rigged. The gas-lighting had already taken place. You would have been one of the first here to scream Obama rigged the election. Rather then foment potential civil unrest Obama decided Hilary was probably going to win this so he didn't release a statement. In fact everyone including Trump himself thought he was going to lose.

In hindsight Obama should have just said fuck those guys, release it and live with the consequences. You see, unlike you boy Trump Obama made the decision he thought was best for the country not himself. Something Trump will never understand.

According to libtards the election was rigged and it was Obama calling Trump out about whining about the elections and he needs to accept the results like a man. Oops!

I'm glad you admit the Trump was correct about something not on the level with the election and that Obama and the rest of Dimocrats thought Hillary was going to win so they did nothing to protect us from Russia. So, it looks like there is another reason to believe that Hillary and the rest of the Dims were working with Russia to influence the election. We know about Obama and his favorably treatment of Russia and it's allies, DOJ coverups of Russian bribery and corruption, Russian information used to investigate political opponent and influence the election, and DOJ coverups about payments and hirings concerning the dossier. Either the Dimocrats and the MSM are the biggest collection of morons to be totally duped by Putin or they knowingly "colluded" with Russia to influence the election.
 
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Commodus

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According to libtards the election was rigged and it was Obama calling Trump out about whining about the elections and he needs to accept the results like a man. Oops!

I'm glad you admit the Trump was correct about something not on the level with the election and that Obama and the rest of Dimocrats thought Hillary was going to win so they did nothing to protect us from Russia. So, it looks like there is another reason to believe that Hillary and the rest of the Dims were working with Russia to influence the election. We know about Obama and his favorably treatment of Russia and it's allies, DOJ coverups of Russian bribery and corruption, Russian information used to investigate political opponent and influence the election, and DOJ coverups about payments and hirings concerning the dossier. Either the Dimocrats and the MSM are the biggest collection of morons to be totally duped by Putin or they knowingly "colluded" with Russia to influence the election.

Living in an alternate universe disconnected from reality, as always.

Also, I have to ask: do you really think that using childish insults like "libtards" and "Dimocrats" helps your case? If anything, they just reinforce our belief that you're an immature, easily fooled brat. You want us to take your views seriously? Write like an adult.
 
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HomerJS

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According to libtards the election was rigged and it was Obama calling Trump out about whining about the elections and he needs to accept the results like a man. Oops!

I'm glad you admit the Trump was correct about something not on the level with the election and that Obama and the rest of Dimocrats thought Hillary was going to win so they did nothing to protect us from Russia. So, it looks like there is another reason to believe that Hillary and the rest of the Dims were working with Russia to influence the election. We know about Obama and his favorably treatment of Russia and it's allies, DOJ coverups of Russian bribery and corruption, Russian information used to investigate political opponent and influence the election, and DOJ coverups about payments and hirings concerning the dossier. Either the Dimocrats and the MSM are the biggest collection of morons to be totally duped by Putin or they knowingly "colluded" with Russia to influence the election.
Notice how he cherry-picked from my response. Ignored the part where Obama went to McConnell trying to issue a joint statement.

Typical tactic of liars.
 

interchange

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Why didn't Obama move to stop Russia interference, stating that it was silly to say Russia was a threat, and they had no impact on our elections? Once the Queen didn't win the election, Russia became dangerous again.

Obama did a bad job at the time. I was critical of him then although less so since we learned he backed off due to McConnell's threats.

If you agree that Obama did a bad job, though, how would you characterize Trump's?
 

umbrella39

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Living in an alternate universe disconnected from reality, as always.

Also, I have to ask: do you really think that using childish insults like "libtards" and "Dimocrats" helps your case? If anything, they just reinforce our belief that you're an immature, easily fooled brat.

Standard Operating Procedure for low information repugnant Trump knob fluffers...
 

zinfamous

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According to libtards the election was rigged and it was Obama calling Trump out about whining about the elections and he needs to accept the results like a man. Oops!

I'm glad you admit the Trump was correct about something not on the level with the election and that Obama and the rest of Dimocrats thought Hillary was going to win so they did nothing to protect us from Russia. So, it looks like there is another reason to believe that Hillary and the rest of the Dims were working with Russia to influence the election. We know about Obama and his favorably treatment of Russia and it's allies, DOJ coverups of Russian bribery and corruption, Russian information used to investigate political opponent and influence the election, and DOJ coverups about payments and hirings concerning the dossier. Either the Dimocrats and the MSM are the biggest collection of morons to be totally duped by Putin or they knowingly "colluded" with Russia to influence the election.

It's like the last two years never happened in your mind.

The 180s and 360s have been impressive, in such a short amount of time. At this point you can stare at the shoes on your feet and convince yourself that you aren't wearing shoes.
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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It's so funny now to see Republicans acknowledge that there was Russian meddling in the election but of course blame Obama because that's always their only defense, when before there was no Russian influence at all.
 
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It's so funny now to see Republicans acknowledge that there was Russian meddling in the election but of course blame Obama because that's always their only defense, when before there was no Russian influence at all.

And comviently leave McConnel off the list.

I’ll admit Obama should have handled it better, he was in a tough place but that doesn’t matter. Obamas weakness was gaining consensus across the isle. He should have kept going down the line. Imagine if Cruz stepped out of the Race and sided with Obama regarding election meddling, that would be powerful.
 

trenchfoot

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I wonder how many people Collusiongate will collect when the dust settles?

If you ask me, I'll say that Trump and every person he's hired and have either remained quiet or have actually participated in this botched cover up attempt should get a swift kick out of gov't service permanently. They're all beholden to Trump and in order to remove the muck and stench these folks have created in the White House they all need to get the heave ho with extreme prejudice.

Those assholes in the legislature that have supported Trump's agenda? Well let's go overboard on this and hope every one of those corrupted slime gets tossed out in like fashion at the polls. If history repeats, the new crop of Repubs will be so much farther to the right than the ones they replace they'll become as feckless and outlandishly toxic as Trump is, thus ensuring their words and deeds will be looked upon as the actions of a party that's so far removed from reality that they could never be considered a legitimate entity that represents the interests of the people at large.
 
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