Mueller indicts Russians

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I can only imagine the shits you would be having if Hillary used the exact same words in the exact same forum regarding Trump.
If you say you would be OK with Her doing that you are not being honest.
It's not a matter whether I'm OK with it or not....it was an incredibly stupid thing to say. But to frame this as some kind of conclusive "proof" that collusion indeed took place is moronic and irrational as hell imo.
 

fskimospy

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Sure...but I'm much more interested in the "proof" you dig up.

I mean we obviously don't know where this will all end but let's look at what we do know:

1) The Russians attempted to assist Trump in winning the election.
2) Trump and his associates have told an incredible number of lies about their relationships with Russia.
3) Mueller has already uncovered significant criminal activity by Trump associates
4) Trump has repeatedly tried to limit or shut down the investigation.

Considering all of that the most likely answer is that Trump is attempting to cover up something bad. If he's not guilty then he's doing himself no favors as he's acting very, very guilty. Maybe it all turns out to be nothing but I don't think that's very likely.
 
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I mean we obviously don't know where this will all end but let's look at what we do know:

1) The Russians attempted to assist Trump in winning the election.
2) Trump and his associates have told an incredible number of lies about their relationships with Russia.
3) Mueller has already uncovered significant criminal activity by Trump associates
4) Trump has repeatedly tried to limit or shut down the investigation.

Considering all of that the most likely answer is that Trump is attempting to cover up something bad. If he's not guilty then he's doing himself no favors as he's acting very, very guilty. Maybe it all turns out to be nothing but I don't think that's very likely.
Well there you go. That's proof enough for me!
 

alien42

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So, uhh, why is the GOP message & the Russian message the same? Is it for the MAGA?

We saw that in 2016 and again with #releasethememo.

As good as the Russians are, maybe the GOP should just farm out the messaging & the PR to the FSB. They'd probably get more bang for the buck than from their usual American propagandists...

Speaking of... https://gizmodo.com/conservative-twitter-users-lose-thousands-of-followers-1823185428

This probably deserves its own thread.
 

hal2kilo

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Russians held a Trump is not my President rally. Moore was there, where you Jhhnn?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...mp-rally-allegedly-organized-by-russians.html

"Michael Moore, the polemical filmmaker who has long accused President Trump of colluding with Russians, posted videos and pictures of himself participating in a protest in Manhattan that was allegedly organized by Russians in November 2016."
So you are connecting dots. What does this mean. Oh, he was only a stooge, just like your buddy.
 

Commodus

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I acknowledge that Trump is generally a BS artist, but who in TV or politics isn't? I'm not a Trump fan but the country had bottom of the barrel candidates and Trump was the better of the two, unfortunately. The part I dislike is people using blatant lies and mistruths to undermine Trump because Hillary was suppose to win and everyone else is a racist deplorable.

The problem: there's an equivocation going on here. It assumes that every politician lies roughly as much as Trump, which is false. Other politicians don't tell lies so obvious that anyone can catch them with a 5-second Google search. They don't lie about having lied when there's video evidence of them lying. They don't lie about petty things like crowd sizes or news outlet ratings, or source their misinformation from conspiracy theorists.

Basically: while it's difficult to find a politician that's completely honest, there's a difference between that and Trump's non-stop amateurish lying. He's so bad that any genuinely cautious person should assume his statements are false; even by cynical standards, that's unacceptable.
 
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Specifically what would be proof to you Doc, I'm not talking about a jury conviction. I am asking what specific action or actions would need to be proven for you to say "yup he's guilty"
I'll know it when I see it. But a 10 second sound bite from a stump speech just doesn't cut it for me.
 
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What do you think about the rest? Do you agree that the most likely answer is he's covering something up?
I don't know if he's covering up something. But I do know that you grossly oversimplified your first talking point. At the core of every conspiracy theory there is at least one flimsy premise.
 

Meghan54

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You guys, DSF is not here to discuss anything in good faith. You should really resist engaging.

More than likely another paid "consultant" of the troll factory. Don't you find it interesting that quite a few "conservatives" who'd been gone for months suddenly, en mass, reappear in threads like the school mass shooting thread and just after Mueller indicts a bunch of Russians?

And the rhetoric is identical across multiple forums, Twitter, Facebook, etc. Just a bunch of paid trolls doing their "job."
 

fskimospy

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I don't know if he's covering up something. But I do know that you grossly oversimplified your first talking point. At the core of every conspiracy theory there is at least one flimsy premise.

My first point is entirely accurate. If you are saying that the Russians working to help Trump is a flimsy premise then you should talk to the entire US intelligence community about it.

Also, I didn't ask you if you KNEW he was covering up something, I asked you if you thought that was the most LIKELY answer. Do you?
 
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