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Hayabusa Rider

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There is no indication in these indictments that Mueller has completed his investigation. There is indication that Mueller is investigating Americans as knowing participants in this illegal activity. There are existing secured guilty pleas and indictments against Americans connected to this illegal activity.

Bad news!

That and "no Russian interference" is done
 

ivwshane

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He was just saying that now that this is happening, could we stop saying Hillary could have too. So I not really in relation to this because this means nothing to that. That was all.

I get what you are saying and I agree with you. That being said, there is zero indication that Hillary was duped by Russians.
 

realibrad

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I get what you are saying and I agree with you. That being said, there is zero indication that Hillary was duped by Russians.

Its funny, now that this is a topic about hating on the Right and or Trump, you all have been a lot more agreeable with me. Normally that would have gotten me a "you are just being pedantic and we know what your real motives are". Now its just accepted that I was disagreeing with something small and nothing more beyond that.
 

brandonbull

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Indictments saying definitively that Russians tried to interfere with our elections. Response from some people here....

but Hillary!

Breaking news: A country that we have be at odds with for 60+ years is trying to interfere with our normal way of life. More at 11. I like how it went from Trump and Russia colluded to now 13 Russians tricked 63M people to vote for Trump. I like how the goalposts shift and you still bring up the anti "Trump and Russian collusion" crowd when talking about ONLY Russian interference. The best part is we have multiple people linked to trying to hide or deny a connection to the dossier,it's connection to the Russians, and that doesn't register on the Russian interference radar. I guess, since that's not the bots Mueller is looking for, it doesn't count.
 

jackstar7

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Well to be fair, she could have for other things. I'm sure Russia is playing as many sides as it can. I think it was clear at the end who they wanted, but she may have done some shit too.
My goodness, you're a tool.

What things do you think she did with Russia? The debunked Uranium One? Self-sabotage of her campaign?
 
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realibrad

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My goodness, you're a tool.

What things do you think she did with Russia? The debunked Uranium One? Self-sabotage of her campaign?

And spot on timing sir. Well done.

Its funny, now that this is a topic about hating on the Right and or Trump, you all have been a lot more agreeable with me. Normally that would have gotten me a "you are just being pedantic and we know what your real motives are". Now its just accepted that I was disagreeing with something small and nothing more beyond that.

Good show!
 

Ajay

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Guys, between the "200" Russian mercenaries killed in Syria and the indictments today (nevermind all the sanctions)...anyone feel like shit is getting real between the US and Russia? We've got our proxy war (Syria), we have their illegal transfers of oil to North Korea, and I'm sure there is other strategic posturing I'm not aware of (rumors that they were double dealing with Assad AND ISIS in Syria wrt oil contracts.)

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Effectively. Though this president won’t likely be very useful in 'freezing' out Russia for their attack on our democratic system. Russia should be punished in every way possible for their unacceptable attack. Too many people have been duped and refuse to open their eyes to the amount of damage that has been done. We now have a bogus political election because of Russian interference.
 

soundforbjt

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Breaking news: A country that we have be at odds with for 60+ years is trying to interfere with our normal way of life. More at 11. I like how it went from Trump and Russia colluded to now 13 Russians tricked 63M people to vote for Trump. I like how the goalposts shift and you still bring up the anti "Trump and Russian collusion" crowd when talking about ONLY Russian interference. The best part is we have multiple people linked to trying to hide or deny a connection to the dossier,it's connection to the Russians, and that doesn't register on the Russian interference radar. I guess, since that's not the bots Mueller is looking for, it doesn't count.
They didn’t need to turn 63 million, he won by less than 90,000 across three states.
 
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ivwshane

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Its funny, now that this is a topic about hating on the Right and or Trump, you all have been a lot more agreeable with me. Normally that would have gotten me a "you are just being pedantic and we know what your real motives are". Now its just accepted that I was disagreeing with something small and nothing more beyond that.

Yes, its all about you, it couldn't be that you are both typically pedantic and you are right about this particular claim? Nah, we only agree with you because it's a "hate on trump thread". /eye roll

My how self centered you are.
 

realibrad

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Yes, its all about you, it couldn't be that you are typically pedantic and you are right about this particular claim? Nah, we only agree with you because it's a "hate on trump thread".

My how self centered you are.

You did see the very next post to me right? It makes this post by you a lot funnier.
 

realibrad

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They didn’t need to turn 63 million, he won by less than 90,000 across three states.

Well, that does not work. They had to turn people that would otherwise not have voted for him, and I would imagine that is a lot. The number could be 1-every vote and your numbers have no indication of where that number fell in that range.
 

zinfamous

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To use Russian propaganda to alter the 2016 Presidential election. Hah, you pretty much asked why collusion with Russia would matter.



Steele sourced from the Russian government.

Good thing Steele's info was coroborated by other investigations then, right? Or do you not care? ...I still don't get this talking point from the right. It is transparently nonsensical.
 
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ivwshane

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You did see the very next post to me right? It makes this post by you a lot funnier.

Not really. What he is highlighting is that, unlike trump, it appears Hillary wasn't compromised. Now you can say we don't know that for sure (which you will say) but that doesn't disprove his point. Now by all means show is just how pedantic you can get.
 

Jhhnn

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Good thing Steele's info was coroborated by other investigations then, right? Or do you not care? ...I still don't get this talking point from the right. It is transparently nonsensical.

It's all they can come up with.
 

Ackmed

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What's this I hear? 13 of the Trumpublican brainwasher's were indicted? The resident Trump supporters on this forum must be feeling the fool right about now. Just kidding! I can almost hear their feet digging in.

Did you even read? You may want to before posting next time.
 

realibrad

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Not really. What he is highlighting is that, unlike trump, it appears Hillary wasn't compromised. Now you can say we don't know that for sure (which you will say) but that doesn't disprove his point. Now by all means show is just how pedantic you can get.

It is true that I have seen nothing to indicate Hillary. Its also true that Trump being compromised has nothing to do with the possibility of Hillary being compromised. If he were highlighting that, then explain the next post he made?

Please, do tell. What suspicions do you have about Hillary at this point? Let us know all your feelings.

He clearly believes that I have suspicions. I have no reason to believe she did, I just think that this indictment does nothing to prove or disprove anything by her.
 

zinfamous

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Breaking news: A country that we have be at odds with for 60+ years is trying to interfere with our normal way of life. More at 11. I like how it went from Trump and Russia colluded to now 13 Russians tricked 63M people to vote for Trump. I like how the goalposts shift and you still bring up the anti "Trump and Russian collusion" crowd when talking about ONLY Russian interference. The best part is we have multiple people linked to trying to hide or deny a connection to the dossier,it's connection to the Russians, and that doesn't register on the Russian interference radar. I guess, since that's not the bots Mueller is looking for, it doesn't count.

no goalposts have shifted. It just seems that you are only now listening to what has actually been going on for the last 2-3 years isntead of inventing and living in whatever realities are more comfortable for you. welcome back...sorta?
 

Jhhnn

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It is true that I have seen nothing to indicate Hillary. Its also true that Trump being compromised has nothing to do with the possibility of Hillary being compromised. If he were highlighting that, then explain the next post he made?



He clearly believes that I have suspicions. I have no reason to believe she did, I just think that this indictment does nothing to prove or disprove anything by her.

It proves that she was the victim of Russian attacks. I suspect they'd have done the same only different with Bernie. For the MAGA!
 
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