My EVGA RMA experience...

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Fenuxx

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First, let me state that all of my past experiences with EVGA have been stellar, and have wholeheartedly recommended them to friends and family in a heartbeat.

Now, to my RMA story. This is not a "bash" against EVGA, just putting it out there to make others aware of what can happen...

Way back in 2008, I bought an 8800 GT, which I then stepped up to a 9800 GTX (I wanted the fastest single-GPU card around, and the possibility of 3-way SLI in the future made me grin). I bought the EAR so if something happened to it, I wouldn't have to deal with a ridiculous amount of downtime as is usually normal with RMAs.

Fast forward just shy of 4 years, and my trusty 9800 GTX, which was never overclocked, and kept in a very clean system with great cooling, up and died in the middle of a movie (black screened, forcing a reboot, then providing me with a lovely rainbow of artifacts everywhere, and producing a Code 43 error). After a bit of sadness, I called EVGA to set up an RMA on 04-27-2012.

The EAR process went smoothly, and the person I talked to was quite friendly, and helpful. I was quite pleased, having dealt with other companies in the past, who weren't so helpful.

On 05-02-2012, I received the replacement, a GTX 550 Ti. I popped it in my computer, and the computer wouldn't even POST with it. Thinking something may be wrong with my computer, I tried it in my girlfriend's computer, which houses a GTX 560 Ti. It also wouldn't POST, and her 560 Ti worked like a charm in my computer.

So, I called up EVGA and got a 2nd RMA started. This is where it started to turn bad... I had some questions/concerns about the 550 Ti regarding lower texture and pixel fillrate, as well as the loss of the ability to run 3-way SLI, and was transferred to a Level 2 tech who was quite rude with me, and essentially told me I was an idiot because features like DX11 support, and 1GB of RAM vs 512MB of RAM made up for that... OK, whatever, I just need my computer back running again. I was told I would be receiving a 9800 GTX as a replacement for the 550 Ti since they were in stock, no option given. Again, odd, but OK, that was what I had originally.

Fast forward again to 05-07-2012, and I got the next replacement. It was actually a 9800 GTX+, but had the P/N of a 9800 GTX (the S/N on the card matches the 9800 GTX registered to my account, and the P/N on the card says its a 9800 GTX, not a GTX+). OK, it's a little better, no problem. Put it into my computer, and surprise! It does work, but has about the same exact problem my original 9800 GTX did. Once again, I try it in my girlfriend's computer. Same story.

I call up EVGA again, and got another RMA rolling. At this point, I was quite frustrated, as the time I had spent with this completely has nullified the money I spent so it WOULDN'T happen with the EAR purchase. I explain this to the tech I got ahold of, and was again transferred to Level 2. The RMA was set up and I was told, by the Level 2 tech, to call back the next day to talk to a manager about my issue.

I called the next day (05-08-2012) and talked to a manager, after noticing that my 3rd RMA was set up as a standard RMA, not an EAR, like the last 2 were. I was transferred to a manager, who told me that EVGA was going the extra mile by continuing the EAR and paying shipping both ways. After some searching my account, I was granted an "upgrade" to a 3rd EAR (gee, thanks?) for the 3rd RMA, and EVGA would be doing "extra testing" on my 3rd replacement to make sure it works (shouldn't that be common practice?) This, after explaining that I work from home, and this is now costing me money, as projects I have now have to be pushed back, and I have to make concessions to my clients because of the delay.

The 3rd RMA is on its way now, and per the info I can see on my account, it's another 9800 GTX and is scheduled for delivery for 05-11-2012. OK, I hope it works. Just seems completely stupid that the EAR I paid $40 for to not have this downtime has now cost me 2 weeks of downtime, completely negating that $40 I spent (in my opinion).

A few points though:

1.) I'm an A+ Certified tech (I know, doesn't mean jack, but noting it nonetheless)
2.) I have built countless PCs, so I know what I'm doing, I wasn't killing the cards, I'm damn sure of that
3.) I wasn't ever fishing for an upgrade (I've worked an RMA dept. before, I hate those kind of people) though after this, it would have been nice to get one, but I'm happy with just having a functioning computer with my 9800 GTX.

At this point, I seriously question whether I will ever buy EVGA ever again, having gone through this.
 

Grooveriding

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No more lifetime warranty.

You have to spend $25 to 'upgrade' your warranty to one that allows you to participate in the step-up program as well as the EAR and go from 3 to 5 years warranty. Also note the upgraded 5 years does not apply if you transfer your warranty, just the original 3 years.

Step-ups are selective and some cards may be chosen not to be available for step-up (690)

EVGA=nothing special anymore, go ASUS imo. They screwed me on the stepup program after I put out $50 to upgrade both my 680s.
 

Fenuxx

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Yeah, I'm seriously considering ASUS when "Big Kepler" comes out, which is when I'll be doing a system overhaul. This is really making me think twice about EVGA, what with all the praising that was done about them over the years, I thought I couldn't go wrong.
 

d3fu5i0n

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Well, I hope it all goes well for you.
I tend to express how I feel and the quality of service that I receive from the company to the person helping/talking to me - as long as I'm dealing with someone who is reasonable and polite. Sometimes, they'll apologise whole-heartedly and do better than what would be required to make up for it.

But yes, your point about testing the cards should absolutely - no questions asked be common practice.

So, yeah, the best of luck to you and hopefully this replacement does work. See how you feel after this; if it's broken after their 'testing', I'd be done with them as a customer [that would be my personal choice].

Let us [the AnandTech community] know how it goes!
 

Ieat

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lol yeah try Asus. See how that works out for you if something goes wrong.
 

ArchAngel777

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I'll say that in my experience, eVGA customer service is GREAT. But their RMA department is INEPT. Your story has a lot of similarities to mine. With that said, it isn't hard to substantiate your claims; just look in their forum! Users have a similar story. FYI - My eVGA RMA experience is posted somewhere on this site. It was pretty bad.

On the other hand, to my surprise, Zotac RMA was GREAT. Customer service was great and the replacement part I received actually worked!!! Ha! Imagine that.
 
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Fenuxx

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Well, I hope it all goes well for you.
I tend to express how I feel and the quality of service that I receive from the company to the person helping/talking to me - as long as I'm dealing with someone who is reasonable and polite. Sometimes, they'll apologise whole-heartedly and do better than what would be required to make up for it.

I did, to a manager (I believe he called himself the Assistant Product Manager or somesuch). He just apologized and said EVGA had gone above and beyond because they were giving me EAR replacements, paying shipping both ways, for all 3 RMAs (this, after complaining about the 3rd RMA being a standard RMA and him being gracious enough to "upgrade" me) as well as going above and beyond by doing "extra testing" on the 3rd card (which is on its way to me).

I don't know, just didn't seem to me they gave a damn that their lack of quality control on the RMAs was costing me time and money. Money I paid so I wouldn't *HAVE* to deal with this kind of downtime.
 

bleucharm28

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Here's my experience, I posted in EVGA forum and filed a complaint. I've talked to 2 managers wanting to explain the issued I had. I explain the issue i had to the 2 manager and they never got back to me.

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(Post it sometime early April)
I had the same issue with my GTX 580 FTW HC2, this is my 4th/5th rma the card for the same issues I've done all the troubleshooting i can with tech support and the video card ends up dead in the end. I wish they can give a new GTX 580 air cooled card and i'd be happpy with it, give 1 warranty and move on.

What made this worst RMA ever was the "recertified" card had dye in it from previous user. Apparently, the card wasn't cleaned out. I myself do NOT use any dye, i only use distilled water with Silver Kill coil. Once I reconnect the RMA card to my PC, i noticed a slight pink/purpleish dye in my reservior. (I was outraged) I was and still upset because I had to disasemble all my blocks for cleaning, flushing my reservior, radiators, and pump. I have 2 mofsets, CPU block, N/S bridge block...sigh; it was total hell.

Don't get me wrong, I love EVGA/customer service. But the crap i had to put up with was not a fun experience. I paid a 700+ video, +5 EAR(RMA) program for $30 bucks each time. (This is all within 1 year of this card) I have no confidence with this RMA card, i have a feeling this card will end doing the same thing. I think im going to sell it for what is worth as a waterblock, that's it. nothing else. sigh!

Im sure EVGA is really happy since i purchased 2 GTX 680 SC card.
 

Fenuxx

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I'll say that in my experience, eVGA customer service is GREAT. But their RMA department is INEPT.

Well, for me, the CS was incredibly hit-or-miss.

The first time I was escalated to "Level 2" tech support, with questions about the GTX 550 Ti, asking about both the texture and pixel fill rates being a good margin lower on it, compared to my 9800 GTX, as well as with the 550 Ti not even having the ABILITY to run 3 way SLI if I had wanted to (which, no, I wasn't using, but had thought about since a friend was offering his 2 9800 GTX's for $100).

I was told that I was telling him inaccurate specs on the fill rates (meaning, I was wrong, which I'm not) and that DX11 support, as well as 1GB of RAM on the GTX 550 Ti compared to the 512MB of RAM on the 9800 GTX made it so much better. If I was concerned with DX11, I wouldn't have been running a 9800 GTX in the first place.

Then, there was the manager, who made it out like EVGA was being absolutely amazing by "granting" me the cross-ship which I paid for in the first place, as well as taking extra time out to do "extra testing" on the 3rd RMA card.

A couple of them I talked to have been really great, but it's really hit-or-miss, as their RMA department seems to be.

Not to mention, their "equal to, or better" is incredibly inconsistent across the board. 8800 GT's being replaced with 550 Ti's, 9800 GTXs being replaced with GTX 470s/560 Ti's, 9800 GX2s being replaced with GTX 260s... There's no rime or reason with it, and they give amazing upgrades to some, and cheapass others.
 

peonyu

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lol yeah try Asus. See how that works out for you if something goes wrong.

I have had to RMA with Asus in the past and it was not bad at all. Of course I did cross shipping so that might be why.
 

cmdrdredd

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lol yeah try Asus. See how that works out for you if something goes wrong.

What do you mean? I replaced both a Motherboard and a Video card through them before and both were replaced within 10 days and both came brand new in the box with all the accessories even when I did not send all the accessories back to them originally.
 

DeeJayeS

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I can find anecdotal evidence that both EVGA and ASUS 1) suck or 2) are awesome.

EVGA is headquartered in the US and now the warranty follows the card, making it the clear choice assuming you like to sell and upgrade every couple years, imho anyway.
 

cmdrdredd

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I can find anecdotal evidence that both EVGA and ASUS 1) suck or 2) are awesome.

EVGA is headquartered in the US and now the warranty follows the card, making it the clear choice assuming you like to sell and upgrade every couple years, imho anyway.

Except they USED to offer lifetime warranty and step up with every card. Then they changed and hid that behind multiple models with different model numbers and the same card simply cost more for being an AR vs a KR. Now they make you pay to get 5 years.

They have constantly gone backwards while offering nothing but reference designs and the occasional binned card that comes overclocked and is priced higher than other options that are just as good and might have better cooling and thus clock higher.
 

exar333

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Never had to RMA, but did countless step-up upgrades back in the 8800/9800/gtx260 days. No issues there, but all products involved worked great. Too bad you don't get lifetime or step-up for free anymore.

XFX dropped their double-lifetime cards too, so my current 5870 (that I will be selling now) is the last XFX I will get.
 

Destiny

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RMA with an companies is always a hit or miss... we always hope we get treated well and have a smooth experience, but sometimes it is a luck of the draw... I did a step-up with EVAG from my GTX 470 to my current GTX 570 and it went smoothly... and I'm always in constant contact with them during the whole ordeal, even when they shipped it to my home address and had to change it to my work address...

other than that- I've always had good luck with electronics (knock on wood) except this pass week I bought a Canon printer as a mothers day gift and it was DOA so Canon is shipping me a new one with a return label to send back the bad one...

For EVGA their office is bascially 10 minutes from my office - so shipping times are next day for RMA purposes... worst case scenario I'll just pay them a visit if they try to be funny with me...:biggrin:
 

Ieat

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What do you mean? I replaced both a Motherboard and a Video card through them before and both were replaced within 10 days and both came brand new in the box with all the accessories even when I did not send all the accessories back to them originally.

I mean I bought a refurb Asus card that died after 1 day. I tried to rma the video card through their website. No respond for a week. Finally did another request and they got back to me in a day or so. Sent card in that took another week. They sent same card back that took another week. Card worked again for an hour before dying again.

Sent another request. Was told to call level 2 tech support. Level 2 tech support said they would send me an email about available stock of a replacement card. No email so I called again the next day. Finally got an email with instructions on how to send it in after the 2nd call. Was told they would x-ship if I provide tracking for my shipment and they confirmed it was on its way back to them. Dropped the package off at fed ex and called, they tell me being in fed ex possession is not enough, tracking has to show its moving. So I call the next day and they release the card for shipping. 2 days later finally receive a working card about 5 1/2 weeks after I paid for it. Not to mention the extra $11 I spent shipping it to them.
 

Fallengod

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I dont care about most comments regardless. Evga recently improved their RMA as well and still remains the best in my book. They have always treated me right. No issues here.

In fact, the last RMA I did with EVGA was with an 8800GT that died and had no warranty since I did not have a receipt for it. They still allowed the RMA anyways.

And, Asus has garbage tech support just fyi....
 

RussianSensation

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I've had 2 RMA issues with Asus and they were top notch

Sent in my P67 board Ver1 with failed SATA controllers, got back Rev 3. super fast. Asus paid for shipping there and back. They sent me emails when they received my original board and when they sent me a new one back. Top notch!
 

Meaker10

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You turned down a 9800GTX to 550ti..........

Fail.

It's as fast as a 4870 which eats the 9800GTX for breakfast, consumes less power and overclocks better.

Now you forced them to sift through a pile of 9800GTX cards with solder bump issues to find one that will work for a bit. Way to go.
 

Fallengod

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You turned down a 9800GTX to 550ti..........

Fail.

It's as fast as a 4870 which eats the 9800GTX for breakfast, consumes less power and overclocks better.

Now you forced them to sift through a pile of 9800GTX cards with solder bump issues to find one that will work for a bit. Way to go.

Yeah, I was wondering about that too.. The 550ti is better than a 9800GTX. It looks like he didnt have a choice though.
 

Vesku

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That would be one reason to settle for the 550ti even though it doesn't check off every feature of the 9800GTX, no bumpgate.

But that would require that the 550ti they sent him not be DoA. =S
 

Fenuxx

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Yeah, they didn't offer me another 550 Ti. They just told me I'd be getting another 9800 GTX. I just had questions about the 550 Ti, to which the Level 2 tech was a prick to me about.
 
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