My first time on Linux!

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Nemesis77

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<< Linux is like a McLaren F1 with a 5hp Briggs & Stratton. It looks awesome at first glance and has potential, but after you start it up for real, you realize how bad it sucks. >>



Really? I have used Linux for years now, and I haven't noticed that it sucks. Quite the contrary, it just keeps on getting better and better!



<< I've installed 8 different flavors of Linux and they all suck. Very poor hardware support, poor program support, whole new command line interface to learn, no Windows compatability, and it is just to hard for the average Joe to run. >>



What hardware were you unable to get working in Linux? All hardware that I have in my computer works flawlessly.

No Windows-compatibility? Hello!! this is a whole different OS! It would be same if I whined that Windows is not compatible with Linux! But if you want Windows-compatibility, you can use Wine.

As for your other gripes. Different CLI from Windows? Yes. Again, this is a different OS! Again, it would be same if I whined that "I don't like Command % Conquer, it doesn't look like Counterstrike". Hard for average Joe? Just about everyhting is difficult for Average Joe.



<< If I wanted ease of use and compatability with damn near everyone on the planet, I'd go with Windows (XP). >>



Ease of use to you means "It must be 100% identical to the previous OS I used!". Again, this is a different OS, things will be different. That does not make them difficult. You have just hardwired yourself to the Windows-way of doing things, and when those things don't work in Linux, you just say "Linux is difficult!". It's not, it's DIFFERENT.
 

mpitts

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<< Linux is like a McLaren F1 with a 5hp Briggs & Stratton. It looks awesome at first glance and has potential, but after you start it up for real, you realize how bad it sucks. I've installed 8 different flavors of Linux and they all suck. Very poor hardware support, poor program support, whole new command line interface to learn, no Windows compatability, and it is just to hard for the average Joe to run.

If I wanted reliability, I'd go straight Unix or Solaris.

If I wanted free and/or unique, I'd go BeOS.

If I wanted ease of use and compatability with damn near everyone on the planet, I'd go with Windows (XP).

If I wanted another Linux distro to waste my money on and add to the other 8 versions I don't use because they suck and blah blah ~ Linux.
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Funny, I would say the EXACT opposite. Linux doesn't look all that great, but all of it's power lies under the hood. We currently have 25 servers in a CoLo and another 20 in-house. All of them run Redhat 7.2. Linux is a very stable and robust operating system, if you know what you are doing with it. There is WONDERFUL hardware support. How long has it been since you ran a linux distro? What were you using it for?

And I don't understand your comment about "whole new command line interface to learn". The power of linux is in the CLI. It destroys Windows CLI, and is very comparable to Unix, yet is completely free. Also, what kind of "Windows compatibility" is it lacking?

I am not saying that linux is for everyone, but in a server environment it kicks the crap out of Windows.
 

Kadarin

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<< Does reading NTFS require a kernel recompile? >>



If your kernel is not compiled with NTFS-support, then yes. There you also enable the writing NTFS-support, but it's not recommended.
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Someone can please correct me if I'm wrong (it's been a little while since I've checked), but the NTFS support was for NTFS on the older Windows NT, as opposed to the version now being used in Win2K and XP. NTFS write support was considered (and labeled) as "dangerous" on the 2.2.x kernel..
 

Nemesis77

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<< Someone can please correct me if I'm wrong (it's been a little while since I've checked), but the NTFS support was for NTFS on the older Windows NT, as opposed to the version now being used in Win2K and XP. >>



Ummmm, no. I can read my W2K NTFS-partitions without any problems in Linux.



<< NTFS write support was considered (and labeled) as "dangerous" on the 2.2.x kernel.. >>



Correct. And it's not recommended in 2.4 kernels as well.
 

Platypus

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Wow that was really lame Ameesh...

Sorry you have to put up with these kind of comments Skinner, there are a lot of people who dislike linux because it isn't mainstream and is hard to get working sometimes so thus of course fear turns into hate. Anyway, don't let it get you down, there is always someone willing to help you out if you get stuck. Like I stated before, if you get stuck don't hesitate to message, but there are excellent tutuorials for everything you could ever want to do. Search sourceforge for a program called gkrellm, it's a lot of fun


Btw, for your mp3s, use a program called XMMS, should be standard in mandrake if I'm not mistaken (xmms at shell) and when you go to search for files, check out /mnt/windows/ that is basically like an empty C:. Then find the folder which contains your mp3s and disco, you've got music. The arguement "/mnt/windows" is totally different for every distro and installation, so that is just a sample, but muck around /mnt I'm sure you will find something
 

Skinner2

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Thanks for your help y'all. I appreciate it

Since I'm here I may as well ask a question
Right when Gnome starts to load up I get an error message saying
"Could not look up internet address for h24-65-13-60. Try adding it to file /etc/hosts"

I see the file /etc/hosts and can edit it in root but I really don't know what to type in there...
 

dude8604

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Oct 3, 2001
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Mandrake Linux read my WinXP NTFS partition fine, except I was having problems accessing it when I wasn't logged on as root.


I also couldn't get my SB Audigy working with Linux.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Congratulations. Now you have a true workhorse OS. Just be patient long enough to learn the power you have over your system now, and odds are you'll like it better than windows.
 

yakko

Lifer
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<< << My first time on Linux! >>

Big deal.


LOL, you came in this thread to say that?!? Hahahaha
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Yes.
 

nihil

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Feb 13, 2002
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<< << My first time on Linux! >>

Big deal.


LOL, you came in this thread to say that?!? Hahahaha
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Yes.
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theres a first for everything. now spread your legs and let unix in. you virgin.
 

jcovercash

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Apr 24, 2001
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I donwloaded wine so i could play my games. I installed linux last night and i couldnt install my video card drivers :-/


I did everything like it said.

Ohh well ill try again in a few.

Thx

Josh
 

Hyperblaze

Lifer
May 31, 2001
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<< Wow that was really lame Ameesh...

Sorry you have to put up with these kind of comments Skinner, there are a lot of people who dislike linux because it isn't mainstream and is hard to get working sometimes so thus of course fear turns into hate. Anyway, don't let it get you down, there is always someone willing to help you out if you get stuck. Like I stated before, if you get stuck don't hesitate to message, but there are excellent tutuorials for everything you could ever want to do. Search sourceforge for a program called gkrellm, it's a lot of fun


Btw, for your mp3s, use a program called XMMS, should be standard in mandrake if I'm not mistaken (xmms at shell) and when you go to search for files, check out /mnt/windows/ that is basically like an empty C:. Then find the folder which contains your mp3s and disco, you've got music. The arguement "/mnt/windows" is totally different for every distro and installation, so that is just a sample, but muck around /mnt I'm sure you will find something
>>



Actually....I'd be more inclined to congratulate Ameesh instead. What he said was rather tame compared to other things he has said about Linux. He has learned...or learning....self-restraint from dissing off an OS which he isn't too familiar with.

I was quite impressed.
 
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