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rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: pontifex
also, i love the people who aren't going to play the game based on 1 person's 30 minute review of the game. lol

Actually, I'm not playing the game because I have a life.

god i love ignorant-minded comments. :roll:

God I love people who take themselves as seriously as you do.

I have hobbies that people think are stupid (R/C helicoptors). If someone pokes fun at it, WGAS.

Look at how offended some of you gamers get when someone dares to say game A is more enjoyable than game B.

Get it together.

Actually I gave you no thought after I posted that. I just roll my eyes at your ignorance. Don't knock it till you try it is exactly my point. But since I'm here again... stereotype much ?

 

Sunner

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: Nebor
WoW is made for instant gratification. It's the MMORPG for people who want to "win." I only hope that it will keep a tight grip on all the kiddies so they don't come and play Darkfall Online.

An excellent display of elitism.
If only WoW was "kiddish" enough to keep this part of the player base out, I'd be much happier.

It is kiddish enough. There is an exodus of UO and EQ players on the internet with no MMORPG to turn to. WoW is a joke. A massive commercial success by all regards. But it's just not fun. The whole game is based around getting cool gear. In UO, there wasn't anything you could get that you couldn't get another of in a few day's time. And you lost your stuff often, because when you died, you usually lost your things.

Unfortunately not, the game is still full of elitist jerks, so it's not quite there yet, but I guess it's always nice that it's keeping some of them away.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: Nebor
WoW is made for instant gratification. It's the MMORPG for people who want to "win." I only hope that it will keep a tight grip on all the kiddies so they don't come and play Darkfall Online.

An excellent display of elitism.
If only WoW was "kiddish" enough to keep this part of the player base out, I'd be much happier.

It is kiddish enough. There is an exodus of UO and EQ players on the internet with no MMORPG to turn to. WoW is a joke. A massive commercial success by all regards. But it's just not fun. The whole game is based around getting cool gear. In UO, there wasn't anything you could get that you couldn't get another of in a few day's time. And you lost your stuff often, because when you died, you usually lost your things.

Unfortunately not, the game is still full of elitist jerks, so it's not quite there yet, but I guess it's always nice that it's keeping some of them away.

What game?
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Sure there are players bored at level 60. They haven't made friends... they haven't created those bonds you speak of in order to raid high end content. That's the nature of the game... you can solo to 60... after that, it's all about raiding or PVPing. As a Priest in WoW, I know better than most anyone else how big a raid is. And I speak from experience, a 40 man raid is not "ridiculously large" once you get used to it. I'd even go as far as to say I could deal with an 80 man raid.

no, thats not true. i guarrantee you that most of them are bored because they don't want to or don't have time to raid or grind. i know that was my case.

i was in a guild and had several friends in the game but i don't have time to sit around for an hour and a half waiting for people to show up to an instance or for the leaders to try to get more people and then spend another 3+ hours running the instance (and if you wipe or too many people die, you'll be there all day).
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Sure there are players bored at level 60. They haven't made friends... they haven't created those bonds you speak of in order to raid high end content. That's the nature of the game... you can solo to 60... after that, it's all about raiding or PVPing. As a Priest in WoW, I know better than most anyone else how big a raid is. And I speak from experience, a 40 man raid is not "ridiculously large" once you get used to it. I'd even go as far as to say I could deal with an 80 man raid.

no, thats not true. i guarrantee you that most of them are bored because they don't want to or don't have time to raid or grind. i know that was my case.

i was in a guild and had several friends in the game but i don't have time to sit around for an hour and a half waiting for people to show up to an instance or for the leaders to try to get more people and then spend another 3+ hours running the instance (and if you wipe or too many people die, you'll be there all day).
You were in a bad guild then. People say guilds and end game content are where the fun is... but not just ANY guild. You have to find a good one. If you sit around waiting for an hour for your guild to show up, it's poor planning for an event by the guild leadership. If you spend all day in an instance, it's poor decision making by the guild leadership to let an event continue that you're not capable of completing and just force everyone to bang their head against a wall over and over.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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www.anyf.ca
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I play Ultima Online and enjoy it, yes it's an ancient game, and crappy graphics, but its very supported and lot of free servers to play on and there's lot of various utilities for macros and scripts. What makes me stay is the people, since I'm in a guild and have friends. Playing it alone could probably get boring but as a guild you make friends and sometimes I even log on just to socialize while sitting in my house. (yes, in UO you can build your own house and customize it! UO > WoW ).

I played WoW a bit. But it did not really apeal to me that much. But I can't personally judge it since I only played for like an hour then I had to leave, and the next day the server had a HDD failure or something. My friend was trying to get me on, but every day he was on a different server. I cant stand server hopping.

Do you play UO on a free server or on Origin servers?


I play on a free server ( http://www.uodemise.com ), but it's claimed to be an "OSI Clone" but tons of stuff is missing still. Things like the puzzle in doom to get an artifact, for example. They are very slow coders to consider its more then one person working on it, but aperently ML content is going to be implimented soon. Some of it is in but lots missing.

 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,804
46
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I play Ultima Online and enjoy it, yes it's an ancient game, and crappy graphics, but its very supported and lot of free servers to play on and there's lot of various utilities for macros and scripts. What makes me stay is the people, since I'm in a guild and have friends. Playing it alone could probably get boring but as a guild you make friends and sometimes I even log on just to socialize while sitting in my house. (yes, in UO you can build your own house and customize it! UO > WoW ).

I played WoW a bit. But it did not really apeal to me that much. But I can't personally judge it since I only played for like an hour then I had to leave, and the next day the server had a HDD failure or something. My friend was trying to get me on, but every day he was on a different server. I cant stand server hopping.

Do you play UO on a free server or on Origin servers?


I play on a free server ( http://www.uodemise.com ), but it's claimed to be an "OSI Clone" but tons of stuff is missing still. Things like the puzzle in doom to get an artifact, for example. They are very slow coders to consider its more then one person working on it, but aperently ML content is going to be implimented soon. Some of it is in but lots missing.

talking about free server is not allowed here
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
29,582
12
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I play Ultima Online and enjoy it, yes it's an ancient game, and crappy graphics, but its very supported and lot of free servers to play on and there's lot of various utilities for macros and scripts. What makes me stay is the people, since I'm in a guild and have friends. Playing it alone could probably get boring but as a guild you make friends and sometimes I even log on just to socialize while sitting in my house. (yes, in UO you can build your own house and customize it! UO > WoW ).

I played WoW a bit. But it did not really apeal to me that much. But I can't personally judge it since I only played for like an hour then I had to leave, and the next day the server had a HDD failure or something. My friend was trying to get me on, but every day he was on a different server. I cant stand server hopping.

Do you play UO on a free server or on Origin servers?


I play on a free server ( http://www.uodemise.com ), but it's claimed to be an "OSI Clone" but tons of stuff is missing still. Things like the puzzle in doom to get an artifact, for example. They are very slow coders to consider its more then one person working on it, but aperently ML content is going to be implimented soon. Some of it is in but lots missing.

Why would you want an OSI clone? UO went to crap. If they had a free server that was UO 7 years ago, then they'd have something. Artifacts, power scrolls, all a bunch of crap.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
80,287
17,080
136
Originally posted by: pontifex
talking about free server is not allowed here
This is gonna sound really dumb especially since I've been here longer than you but: Did I miss a rule or something?

What reason do the mods have for disliking this?

 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,804
46
91
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: pontifex
talking about free server is not allowed here
This is gonna sound really dumb especially since I've been here longer than you but: Did I miss a rule or something?

What reason do the mods have for disliking this?

its against the TOS of those games, its basically like talking about wares.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
70,003
13,488
126
www.anyf.ca
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I play Ultima Online and enjoy it, yes it's an ancient game, and crappy graphics, but its very supported and lot of free servers to play on and there's lot of various utilities for macros and scripts. What makes me stay is the people, since I'm in a guild and have friends. Playing it alone could probably get boring but as a guild you make friends and sometimes I even log on just to socialize while sitting in my house. (yes, in UO you can build your own house and customize it! UO > WoW ).

I played WoW a bit. But it did not really apeal to me that much. But I can't personally judge it since I only played for like an hour then I had to leave, and the next day the server had a HDD failure or something. My friend was trying to get me on, but every day he was on a different server. I cant stand server hopping.

Do you play UO on a free server or on Origin servers?


I play on a free server ( http://www.uodemise.com ), but it's claimed to be an "OSI Clone" but tons of stuff is missing still. Things like the puzzle in doom to get an artifact, for example. They are very slow coders to consider its more then one person working on it, but aperently ML content is going to be implimented soon. Some of it is in but lots missing.

Why would you want an OSI clone? UO went to crap. If they had a free server that was UO 7 years ago, then they'd have something. Artifacts, power scrolls, all a bunch of crap.


True, for pvp, I find AoS crapped it all. I never played on a pre-AOS shard so i dont know what it's like, but I hear it was better. pvp in UO is unbalanced now, and its not even about skill but about items, which is stupid. There's suppost to be a publish to fix lot of issues but they did not impliment it yet and not sure if it will work.

pvp is certainly not what is keeping me in UO, if it was, I'd be playing Halo or something, since at least everyone has the same armor and can get the same guns off the ground. The main think keeping me in UO is the people I know and the friends I've made. I've been toying with the idea of running a shard, but I hate the idea of it running on windows only.

As for the legal issue, its not illegal as long as you dont charge others to play on your server. OSI does not exactly support free servers, but they dont go around shutting them down either and you can actually edit a file to tell UO what server to connect to, specificly to allow this. Now blizzard is a different story... free WoW servers often get shut down from what Ive heard.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
80,287
17,080
136
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: pontifex
talking about free server is not allowed here
This is gonna sound really dumb especially since I've been here longer than you but: Did I miss a rule or something?
What reason do the mods have for disliking this?
its against the TOS of those games, its basically like talking about wares.
Terms Of Service Violation. Got it.

 

Sunner

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Seeruk
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: pontifex
also, i love the people who aren't going to play the game based on 1 person's 30 minute review of the game. lol

Actually, I'm not playing the game because I have a life.


Jbourne.... Educate Yourself

In all honesty, I'd say both categories of people are borderline pathetic.
People really should mind their health more, physical as well as mental, and neither playing a game for 30-40 or ever more hours a week, nor watching every damn reality tv show you can find on TV, is a good way to do that.
I play WoW, until Naxx came out I had seen everything in the end game, but that doesn't mean you have to spend every free hour playing, doing that simply isn't healthy for anyone.

On the plus side, the people who are truly hardcore are unlikely to ever be a threat to me in the labor market
 

Tom

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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I have a question about the graphics "style" of WoW, particularly character graphics.

I don't care for it personally, I would call it kind of cartoonish, but I'd like to hear how someone who likes it would describe it ?
 

TGS

Golden Member
May 3, 2005
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It is fairly cartoonish, but that's how the blizzard art has always been. Even in the original Warcraft days, the art was like this. It is more or less a direct translation of the overhead RTS, into a 3D world.
 

skace

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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The area of the game that the OP writes about is the starting area quests. Basically the most simplistic of the entire game. These starting area quests were designed in this manner because games like Everquest did not properly create a world that could handle a massive influx of users all starting out at small levels. What occurs in a game like EQ is that you get 30 newbies and all of a sudden the low level monster pool has dried up and no one can advance. WoW attempted (pretty decently) to combat this extremely common mmorpg scenario with the starting areas.

Now, to rate the entire game on this is beyond flawed but I'm not going to discredit your opinion, although I do think it hillariously sad if anyone actually canceled a download or stopped playing the game based on this.

To put things into perspective, this would be like rating Oblivion off the escape from the prison cell.
 

skace

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Tom
I have a question about the graphics "style" of WoW, particularly character graphics.

I don't care for it personally, I would call it kind of cartoonish, but I'd like to hear how someone who likes it would describe it ?

I like it and it is deffinitely cartoonish. But it is also timeless, in that as WoW ages, the graphics are not becoming any more ugly. That is where their design is very intelligent. Also, it is very cohesive, everything looks equally cartoonish as if it all belongs in the same world. That may sound obvious, but lots of games break immersion by having certain artwork look simply out of place. Like character models that are plasticy in a world that is overtextured.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: pontifex
also, i love the people who aren't going to play the game based on 1 person's 30 minute review of the game. lol

Actually, I'm not playing the game because I have a life.

god i love ignorant-minded comments. :roll:

God I love people who take themselves as seriously as you do.

I have hobbies that people think are stupid (R/C helicoptors). If someone pokes fun at it, WGAS.

Look at how offended some of you gamers get when someone dares to say game A is more enjoyable than game B.

Get it together.

Actually I gave you no thought after I posted that. I just roll my eyes at your ignorance. Don't knock it till you try it is exactly my point. But since I'm here again... stereotype much ?

Just look at how sensitive you guys are about this. There's a rabid attack against anyone who dares question [game A] over [game B].

Do I stereotype much? Only when it applies. You guys are acting like a herd of D&D dorks.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: Seeruk
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: pontifex
also, i love the people who aren't going to play the game based on 1 person's 30 minute review of the game. lol

Actually, I'm not playing the game because I have a life.


Jbourne.... Educate Yourself

Whatever helps you sleep at night .

FWIW, other than "The Office", I don't watch TV. But the fact of the matter is, there's a wider range of personality types who watch TV versus those who "game" all day. You can pretty much bet that the "all day gamer" is a shut-in with few social skills, as excellently demonstrated in this thread. They're also, apparently, a rather defensive bunch .

But anyway, we're not talking about couch potatoes here, are we? We're talking about gaming hermits.
 

Seeruk

Senior member
Nov 16, 2003
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So here is the deal... I game 30 hours a week and yet I have a job that earns me 60k (pounds sterling) before bonuses, Goto the Gym twice a week, play for a football team, walk with the dog and the wife for a couple of hours a day, look after my mother, play the stock markets for a few hours a week, play golf, travel the world with both work and pleasure.... shanghai, melbourne, new jersey, lyon, saudi, and dublin in the last 2-3 months alone....

Yet idotiotic numbskulls invade posts such as this with their smart-arse assumptions about people who are simply discussing one of their passions.... with nothing to contribute other than a pathetic attempt to piss on other people's parades???

I think I know whose life is the emptiest
 

neutralizer

Lifer
Oct 4, 2001
11,552
1
0
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: nsafreak
Originally posted by: redbox
*kills the WOW download* Thank you for the heads up.

/me recommends www.eve-online.com instead

A lot more freeform

eve is the WORST game ever written... period..
lets wait 14 REAL days for a skill to train.. only so I can auto pilot 34 jumps then strip mine faster in a bigger ship.. then if youre lucky some guy that waited 45 real days in order to train the the biggest battlehip pod kills you... and steals your stuff

yah alot of fun training offline and then using autopilot to fly everywhere..

You do realize that the 14 day skills are only when you pretty damn far in the game. There's way more to the game than training offline and autopiloting. Have you ever tried PVP in it? There's actually risk involved, not like that I get all my stuff back crap. And thus, an adrenaline rush follows in PVP.
 

SpeedZealot369

Platinum Member
Feb 5, 2006
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I liked guild wars, and it was free. That was the only mmorpg I've ever played, but it did get old quickly. After I finished the main storyline there wasn't much going on to keep me playing so I just stopped.

Thats my story

Those mmorpg's are addictive as fvck though, don't go into any unless you have alot of spare time on your hands

-SZ
 

kaioshade

Senior member
Jun 17, 2005
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I enjoy final fantasy xi quite a bit, and have lots of friends as well to play the game with. in all honesty who gives a crap what some people on a message board think of your video game playing. its your life, not theirs.
 
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