I can feel the flames headed my way but I'm thick skinned and kinda thick headed but I need to know, searched for "firmware" did not find anything related ,read articles at videohelp so flame away-bought a NEC 3500 (thanks guys for the recommendation) plan to use clonedvd/anydvd do I still need to download the latest firmware 2.18 first and then install Anydvd/clonedvd? By flashing is it meant that you open the file or run the setup? Any repleies to enlighten me are greatly appreciated and yes I'm staying on the porch for right now and just watch ya big dogs run.