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Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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Gas does not equal low heat! My Weber spirit e-310 will put out so much heat that my temperature probe will fail (cord fails at 550*). And there really is no need to cook at such a high temperature unless you are doing something like a pizza.

I have my gas grill for grilling. I have my charcoal grill/smoker for smoking/BBQing. On a work night I am not firing up the smoker since it takes exponentially longer to heat up/cook/cool down.

Each has their use, so get both.

You want to cook steaks that high. Most grills will get that hot for searing.
 

FallenHero

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Jan 2, 2006
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There are a lot of foods that benefit from cooking at high heat. Ever had grilled baked potatoes that were cooked at 600-700 degrees? They are awesome and quite different from an oven cooked baked potato that was prepared at lower temp. The high temperature induces different changes in the starch, resulting in a different product.

Here are a couple of good grilled baked potato recipes I use a lot:

Ingredients:
Couple good size baking potatoes, washed.

option 1: One white onion, sliced into circular slices (you need once slice per potato). Garlic and herb butter (butter + garlic, rosemary, salt and pepper to taste)

Option 2: Melted sea salt, cracked pepper and paprika butter (butter + sea salt + fresh ground pepper + paprika to taste)


For option 1, slice the uncooked potatoes length wise. Brush the inside and out liberally with the garlic and herb butter. Sandwich a slice of onion between the two halves and wrap the potato/onion/potato "sandwich" in aluminum foil. Put a pad of the garlic and herb butter inside the foil on the top of the sandwich. Try to "tent" the foil over the top of the potato, so that there is an air gap between the potato and the inside of the foil. As the potato cooks, moisture from the butter and the potato will rise, condense on the foil, and drip down on the potato, self basting it as it cooks.

For option 2, use a fork to poke many small holes in the potatoes. The tines of the fork should go about half way in. This step is important, as the holes will allow steam from the potato to escape while it is cooking at high temp. If you don't poke the holes, the potato could explode during the cooking process (its happened to me and it ain't fun). Brush the outside of the potatoes liberally with the melted butter.

For both options - set grill up for indirect cooking. If you have a three burner gas grill, turn the outside burners to high and leave the middle burner off. If you have charcoal, move the lit coals to one side of the grill, creating a hot side and a "cold" side." Your grill should reach at least 450 degrees when set up this way. Hotter is better for these recipes, so cooking at 500, 600, or even 700 degrees is fine.

Place the potatoes in the "cold" region of the grill. For the gas option above, the potatoes would go in the middle of the grill.

Close the lid and don't open it for at least 20-30 minutes.

At the 20-30 minute mark, check the potatoes. For option 1 - you might want to open the foil tent and add another pad of butter. For option 2 - brush the outside of the potatoes liberally with the melted butter and turn them over. Close the lid again.

At 45 minutes, repeat the process performed at the 20-30 minute mark. Depending on your cooking temperature, the potatoes might be done. Test by sliding a steak knife into the largest potato until you reach the middle. If it slides in easily, the potatoes are done. If they are not done, close the lid for another 20 minutes and check again.

Once the potatoes are done, take them off the grill and let them rest for at least 5 minutes. Serve with extra butter or other desired condiments, and get ready for compliments.

Easy homemade butter recipe -

Ingredients:

1-2 quarts of heavy cream
Salt, pepper and herbs to taste.

Instructions - put cream in food processor. Process the cream continuously for 5-10 minutes. The cream will go through several stages. First the fat will begin to separate, then the the cream will "whip," and eventually the fat will seize, resulting in a butter fraction and a whey/liquid fraction. Try to stop processing shortly after the fat seizes, as too much processing will result in a very hard butter. It will still taste good, but it won't be as easy to use.

Once you have butter, drain the liquid and add the seasoning (salt, pepper, herbs, etc.) Blend again for 30 seconds to 1 minute to thoroughly mix in the seasoning. Voila! In ~15 minutes you have homemade seasoned butter. If refrigerated, it will last ~1-2 weeks. You'll know when it starts to go bad.








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Well now I know this weekends meal....
 

Mxylplyx

Diamond Member
Mar 21, 2007
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Gas isn't grilling. It's essentially a conventional gas oven that happens to be outside. How many people enter BBQ competitions with a gas grill?
 

kt

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Apr 1, 2000
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45 minutes is about right. 30-40 minutes for the charcoal and 5-10 minutes for the chicken.

Gas would take about 15 minutes. 5-7 minutes for the grill to heat up and another 5-10 minutes for the chicken.

And there's no ash cleanup with gas.

It takes about 15 minutes for me with charcoal and even less time for a smaller batch. I use an electrical charcoal starter. Just put the starter in a middle of a pile, plug into an electrical outlet and wait for about 5-7 minutes. Then wait for another 5-7 minutes for the charcoal to heat up to the proper temperature.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Jul 12, 2007
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Gas isn't grillingbarbequing. It's essentially a conventional gas oven that happens to be outside. How many people enter BBQ competitions with a gas grill?

FTFY.

Grilling =/ BBQ. You are right on that one.

FWIW, many, many championship bbq teams use electric smokers, not charcoal. It might be sacriligious, but the food comes out awesome so who cares.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Jul 12, 2007
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Now I want a baked potato. Or a stick of butter. But both together sound delicious right now.

If done right, the recipes I quoted don't use a "lot" of butter. Certainly no more than is normally applied to a traditional baked potato. They also have the plus side of making the entire potato edible without additional condiments.
 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Make sure you buy a grill from a company that sells replacement parts. Store the grill in a dry place.

Most grills won't last but a few seasons in the elements. My $95 grill is like new on year 3.
 

Mxylplyx

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Mar 21, 2007
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Make sure you buy a grill from a company that sells replacement parts. Store the grill in a dry place.

Most grills won't last but a few seasons in the elements. My $95 grill is like new on year 3.

Parents left a weber kettle unused in their driveway for 10 years. Cleaned it up and replaced the grate and it's good as new.
 

ElFenix

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Mar 20, 2000
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It takes about 15 minutes for me with charcoal and even less time for a smaller batch. I use an electrical charcoal starter. Just put the starter in a middle of a pile, plug into an electrical outlet and wait for about 5-7 minutes. Then wait for another 5-7 minutes for the charcoal to heat up to the proper temperature.

Seems slow.

Get this instead:

http://www.amazon.com/Looftlighter-7.../dp/B000WYY65Y
 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Parents left a weber kettle unused in their driveway for 10 years. Cleaned it up and replaced the grate and it's good as new.

Those are very good....Weber makes a solid charcoal grill. Their gas grills aren't bad either if you have $500-600 to invest. I like that the grates on those are cast iron...

I've seen Charbroil stainless steel models that are a few months old with knobs that don't work. (you can feel how cheaply made they are to keep up with the stainless look)

I bought my 2 burner charbroil $95 grill from walmart with a $50 gift card.....so I have $44 in it and it's hanging in there. I wish it was bigger when we're grilling a lot, but just work in batches and it gets the job done.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
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I believe the lowest end Weber propane grills are around $500, so they're in the discussion. I guess am I going to be losing out on btu, cooking area, extra options by going with a Weber at that price range.

I've got a low-end Weber gas, thing is the burners they use just keep on going, I replaced the cooking grates last year, found 'em at Lowes for $28, it needs a new ignitor but it's so easy to use with a long tipped lighter I didn't bother fixing that, all in all a quality piece of equipment IMO..
 

rsutoratosu

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i hasd to lift a weber grill in the box today. mustve been at least 70 pounds. didnt realize those thigns were so heavy.

thats quality! my neighbor just bought a char-broil grill, the thing was so thin that it arrived bent in several areas.. its like a glorify throw away grill
 

FallenHero

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i pick up the lid on most of the cheap grills at HD/lowes/walmart and the whole thing wobbles/goes askew. they're getting thinner and thinner.

Just FYI, assuming you are talking Weber grills, Weber has certain suppliers that sell higher quality grills. The models at Home Depot/Lowes is certainly different then the one sold at a dedicated outdoor furniture store. Of course, price will be higher with the better quality. Certain models have thick steel grates, others have porcelain covered garbage. You do have to shop around for the best ones and look into the grades of the steels used in the grill itself. I spend 1000 bucks on my NG Genesis and it has been worth every penny. Retains heat very, very well, little to no flair ups and easy to clean. I leave it outside and cover it after every use. I seem to be the only one in the neighborhood willing to grill in the winter.
 

Murloc

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grilling on wood or on gas/electric makes a difference in taste. Note: I am not talking about smoking, just grilling. It doesn't take that much more time either, when you're waiting for the fire you can do other stuff.
I understand the convenience of gas/electric grills though, and people who don't live on ground level don't have much of a choice either unless they want to smoke their flat.
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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grilling on wood or on gas/electric makes a difference in taste. Note: I am not talking about smoking, just grilling. It doesn't take that much more time either, when you're waiting for the fire you can do other stuff.
I understand the convenience of gas/electric grills though, and people who don't live on ground level don't have much of a choice either unless they want to smoke their flat.

It takes a noticeably longer amount of time, and the amount of gas you get out of that little tank is impressive. Some people grill enough to where the extra space taken up by planks or the like would be a drawback.
 
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