Need help, W2K crashes

[Glocknut]

I just did a "clean" install of W2K Pro on my new system. Here's the vital stats on the system:

Duron 800, Epox EP-8KTA2 mobo, latest BIOS from Epox website
256MB PC133 RAM
IBM 30GB UltraDMA-100
AOpen GEForce2 MX AGP video card

I couldn't install W2K on the system (install kept crashing on startup), so I "cheated" by putting the new hard disk into my 2-year old system, then installing W2K there, then putting the hard disk into the new system (before restarting W2K and configuring all the devices). I also used Partition Magic to format part of the disk to 8G which is where I installed W2K (I might want to boot other OSs in the future).

Amazingly, everything seems to be working OK, EXCEPT I get continual crashes with the following message:

*** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x7D865B28, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0xED30D700)
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
*** Address 37fa637b - uhcd.sys
Beginning dump of physical memory

This seems to happen when I'm doing something with the mouse like scrolling a window or clicking a box. I've tried changing all BIOS settings to the "fail-safe defaults" but it still crashes.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any help!

Regards,
Jim
jim@desertbeans.com

 

[KGB]

You have major driver issues.

Why & how would W2K crash trying to install it in your Duron system?

 

[mariner]

I've seen the 'dumping physical memory' thing on my 2k machine I also would like to know what causes it. I don't get the same error message as you Glocknut, but maybe there are similar issues at the heart of the problem.

 

[Glocknut]

Update: I left the system running last night and when I got up this morning, it had another BSOD. The error message was essentially the same except now the last line referenced ltmdmnt.sys instead of uhcd.sys.

Obviously I couldn't have been doing something with the mouse when it crashed this last time, so I'm just as confused as ever.

As far as frequency, it's intermittant. Sometimes it crashes right after I log into W2K. Most of the time it stays running for several minutes (e.g. 10-30 min). But eventually I get the BSOD if I wait long enough.

Can anyone help or give me some clues on what to try? I'm totally stumped. Does this sound like a hardware problem, BIOS problem, or driver problem?

Thanks in advance again,
Jim
jim@desertbeans.com

 

[mariner]

Can you put the DrWtsn error log up here - if it ain't too big of course.

 

[sun818]

hi Glocknut -- That "clean" install is pretty clever. As long as Win2k did not configure drivers for the old system, it sounds okay to me. I agree with KGBMAN that it is a driver issue. Its typical that a new OS will not have full driver support. I hope the links below help you. If not, check www.microsoft.com/technet, they have good info.

With regards to your specific error messages:
*** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x7D865B28, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0xED30D700)
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
*** Address 37fa637b - uhcd.sys
Beginning dump of physical memory

Windows 2000 May Hang with USB Devices on Older Via Chip Set
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q246/7/55.ASP

ltmdmnt.sys

http://www.808hi.com/56k/ltwin3.htm
Windows2000 (NT5) cannot use any of the released driver and installation files below version 5.66. The driver included with the retail version is 5.41G6

 

[lumberg]

Your "clever" install may be the cause of your problems. Win2000 has what is called the HAL(hardware absraction layer). When installed it "verifies" "all" the hardware is "compatible". If it's not the install may not go through, or is may ask you if you would like to continue regardless. During the install it creates the HAL specific to your hardware. If you ever change hardware (ex. processor, motherboard) you will have to reinstall/upgrade the system. Since you can get it running create the boot disks, 4 of them. Boot from them. When you get to the part to install new or upgrade choose upgrade. It will look at what's currently on you system, and rebuild the HAL. If it continues to fail your hardware may not be win2000 compliant. You can find out from the microsoft website, just look for the win2000 HCL(hardware compatibility list). If it upgrades fine hopefully you'll be good to go. It also shouldn't touch any of your installed applications, just things that are operating system related. It's not like 95/98. It will not reformat your drive and erase all your data. But a back-up is always a good idea.

good luck

Here's how to make the boot disks:
To create setup disks

1.Insert a blank, formatted, 3.5-inch, 1.44-MB disk into the floppy disk drive.
2.Insert the Windows 2000 CD-ROM into the CD-ROM drive.
3.Click Start, and then click Run.
4.In the Open box, type d:\bootdisk\makeboot a: (where d: is the drive letter assigned to your CD-ROM drive), and then click OK.
5.Follow the screen prompts.
Important

You will need four blank, formatted, 3.5-inch, 1.44-MB floppy disks. Label them Setup Disk One, Setup Disk Two, Setup Disk Three, and Setup Disk Four.

 

[yazz]

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

usually means there is an IRQ conflict. i say pull everything from the box except the video card and disable the USb controller in the bios. boot the system regularly and apply the 4in1 drivers. if you cannot boot into win2k normal mode then boot into safemode and apply the 4in1drivers and USB filter patch. see what happens when you boot into normal mode afterwards.

also, what kinda crashes did you have when installing win2k? freezes, blue screens, reboots? if you do reinstall WIN2K just make sure you just have the video card in the system. and once the system boots up for the first time, apply the 4in1 drivers and reboot. then install the Geforce2 MX drivers, after that, then apply service pack1.

good luck

 

[spellbound]

I believe that error has to do with a driver using an area of memory it's not supposed to, is already used or something like that. I just went through a problem with that error and the PC wouldn't even boot into safe mode. In Win2k, I'm using ACPI so it assins the IRQ's. The problem for me was caused when I installed Adaptec's Direct CD software.