Need help with Workstation!!

robertdrumm

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I have been reading article after article trying to figure out what i need in a computer. I want something that will run AutoCAD, Solidworks, and other programs engineers use. Any suggestions would be great. I know a fair amount about computers. here's what i have come up with for what i need.

-quad core or higher
-cpu speed of 2.2+ghz
-graphics card of some sort
-8+gigs of ram
-an ssd
-full hd display
-multiple display capable computer
-quality parts.
 

sgrinavi

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You want a laptop? Get a Dell M series off the outlet. You can't beat the bang/buck
 

vbuggy

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It depends on what you want - power or portability. I've had/have Dell / HP's flagship mobile workstations and in terms of power they lag far behind what you can get on a desktop - but it depends on the level of intensity of what you're doing, and where you need to do it of course.

I use HP's Z800-series workstations as my primary workstations and main home computers. I can vouch for reliability, flexibility, support and stability.
http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/workstations/z820_features.html

Dell's Precision range is indeed as the above poster says very good bang for the buck especially if you call them they'll drop their pants in a flash, but I find the construction of a noticeably poorer quality than HP's and historically I've found QA is far more variable, though support (with the paid-for Prosupport - I never rely on 'free' warranty, even if a 3-year one is included) is very good overall.

I'm currently trialling a Dell M4700, Lenovo W530 and HP 8570W (my 17"'s will stay HP, and I have a few 8760W's) to choose my 15" 'more portable' mobile workstation, and am waiting for a T7600 to arrive for testing, which I'll face off against one of my new Z820's. As much as I like the HP gear, I have to acknowledge that I can buy several more Dell workstations than HP of essentially the same spec where it counts for the same money. I run my own remote and local workstation clusters and private cloud, and it's not like I'm some Russian billionaire so the cost savings are very tempting - but I won't do so at the expense of reliability (unless I have no choice, as in e.g. the case of the relatively speaking POS Mac Pro's on which I have to run OS X software).

There are lower-end machines available in all of those ranges which may fit your specific needs better - the HP Z420 or Dell T3600 / T5600 comes to mind in terms of desktops for a lower-level user - but my approach is only to buy flagships unless there are specific niche requirements - YMMV.

In terms of desktops, a lot of people who don't actually use this level of power for a living might say 'build your own' but if you're actually using this as a tool then it makes far more sense to buy a good machine.
 
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Phil L

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Do you need a Dell or other name brand workstation laptop for the 24/7 services they provide? Do you need the validation/certification that comes with a workstation laptop as part of company policy?

The reason I ask is because often you may not actually need a true workstation laptop with professional GPU. Solidworks I know does not actually leverage a workstation GPU for compute purpose, instead all the pro gpu driver gives you is RealView feature with pretty shadow and reflection (I've tricked it to do the same by forcing pro driver on top of a radeon 6850 for a colleague, and comparing bench # with that of a true pro card, no difference). Many CAD program is CPU limited, and single threaded at that (they use multi-thread for menu and UI, but most compute is single threaded) The same is true for some other CAD programs, but not all. So depends on what program you actually use, you may be able to save some money on the laptop.

Just a thought,
 

robertdrumm

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this is for use at home. i wont be buying under work. A desktop or laptop will due. im kind of leaning towards desktop bc they are easier to update hardware. and i know you can rig a gaming gpu to do a workstations gpu, but i truely don't think i will want the hassel. Im simply just looking for helpful opinions.
 

sgrinavi

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If you're looking for a desktop that can be upgraded then you might want to build your own.

Yes, you can run two OS's on a dual processor system - which two?
 

Phil L

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this is for use at home. i wont be buying under work. A desktop or laptop will due. im kind of leaning towards desktop bc they are easier to update hardware. and i know you can rig a gaming gpu to do a workstations gpu, but i truely don't think i will want the hassel. Im simply just looking for helpful opinions.

Well specifically for AutoCAD and SolidWorks you can just use a GeForce or Radeon with no drawback whatsoever (other than a pretty shadow/reflection feature on SolidWorks that does nothing useful, which you can enable/hack with minimal work). This would save you couple hundred to a few thousand bucks. Some CAD programs do use GPU compute, but that's where the list of the software you intend to use will matter.

And given desktop being an option, I would highly recommend desktop. Not only is it easier to maintain/upgrade, it can also run quieter, be cheaper, and more powerful too.

Do you have a budget range? Form factor restriction? The General Hardware forum has someone trying to build a CAD workstation, which may serve as a good starting point for you. Post #7 by mfenn has a recommendation for $1552, and that's including 2 monitors for $580 (you only need one I think?)
 

robertdrumm

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about $1200.
here are the spec for that computer. its a dell t5500.
Processor: Intel Xeon Dual Quad Core E5620 Processor (2.4GHz,4M L3, 5.86GT/s)
Genuine Windows 7 Professional
Precision Workstation T5500 Tower
250 GB SATA 6.0Gb/s, 7200RPM Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst Cache
4 GB Memory (2x2GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked LV RDIMM for 1 Processor,Optimized
16X DVD +/- RW Drive
256MB NVIDIA Quadro NVS 295, DUAL MON, 2 DP
1 GB nVIDIA Quadro 2000,Dual Monitor,2DP & 1DVI,
 
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