New 7800 GT Underperforming

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Hmm i see, but i dont believe that this will make my BF2 run as bad as it is. My processor should be able to run it to a decent level and i have seen people with lower end processors say theirs are fine. I do not think it could be to do that my processor isnt great. I just find it weird how my cpu temp stays around 60 C (which people have said is too hot) but when i take my side panel off and start up a game is will only vary by a few degrees.
 

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Your CPU could very well be your bottleneck. Intel CPU's just aren't as fast in games, no question about it. But in all reality I would try a reformat. Also make sure to get the latest chipset drives for your motherboard. Perhaps also DL third party modded drivers, like VXG Extreme's. Those will boost stock performance and image quality nicely.

Good luck
 
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To reformat for me resets it back to the way it comes out of the factory as i dont have an XP disc, i really wanted to keep that a last resort; but i may just have to try it. Got latest chipset drivers from Acer.
 

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Try speedfan to monitor the CPU temp and see if that small fluctuation in reading of load v. idle temps persists. It is possible that you are experiencing CPU clock throttling, and that is why the game keeps bogging down on you. I'm not familiar with how P4s do in CPU test 2 in 3DM'05, but judging by my AMD systems, that test 2 score drops off, and that could point to the load causing it to heat up and throttle.

You can download Throttlewatch and CPUz here and use them to check on the throttling and reported CPU speeds too.
 

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Ok, running it in Blend mode torture test atm. There is no activity in TM1 Throttling and my cpu is 66 C (will post screen once its done)
 

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Originally posted by: MichaelT
In speed fan im also getting this error message in the white text area "SMBus msg : Failed reset at end $2E ($40)"
Not sure what that means. BTW, try 2 instances of P95 torture test since you have a hyperthreading CPU. Here are the directions for doing it
If you run Prime95 and then try to start another copy of Prime95, you only end up with one instance of the program running. In order to run two Prime95 tests at the same time, you need to invoke the program using the "A" command line switch. Make a shortcut to Prime95 and put it on your desktop. Then right-click drag and drop it onto the desktop and select "Create Shortcut Here" to create a copy of the original shortcut. Right-click the copy of the shortcut, select "Properties", and then select the "Shortcut" tab. Then go to the "Target:" field and add "-A1" to the end. If you want to be able to run more instances then create another shortcut copy with "-A2" and so on. Each shortcut will open up a separate instance of Prime95 so you can run more than one test at a time.


 

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Originally posted by: MichaelT
Ok, running it in Blend mode torture test atm. There is no activity in TM1 Throttling and my cpu is 66 C (will post screen once its done)
P95TT will keep running unless it errors out or you stop it. With 2 instances it will heat the CPU even more, then you'll know if it is getting hot enough to throttle or not. Also, you do have the power connector attached to the 7800GT right? There may end up being no culprit here, you may just have to reduce settings to get smooth game play. You have done quite a bit of troubleshooting already, and the list of suspects is getting pretty short. I know I would rather play@reduced setting if need be rather than go through a fresh install and tweaking everything to personal liking again.

You could RMA the card as suggested before, if all else fails.
 

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Ok one last try on stressing the CPU before calling it good to go, try S&M and use the wizard to select just CPU for testing and use the max setting for CPU load. You can just use the normal duration though. Watch the CPU clockspeed as it runs and see if it falls off or not. If it doesn't I'd say you can safely rule out throttling.
 

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Originally posted by: MichaelT
I believe there will be a culprit, my game doesnt run well even on medium settings.

The one rail connects to the 7800 and the HD.
You shouldn't share power to the card, is there any way you can wire it up so the card is alone?

 
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Ok i will do that now, thanks.

Can i just say thanks to all the people who have responded so far as there has been so many!

Will post results soon, ill also take a look at setting it so the card doesnt share power.
 
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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Ok one last try on stressing the CPU before calling it good to go, try S&M and use the wizard to select just CPU for testing and use the max setting for CPU load. You can just use the normal duration though. Watch the CPU clockspeed as it runs and see if it falls off or not. If it doesn't I'd say you can safely rule out throttling.

Ok, i followed your steps but couldnt get it to work, here what i got:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5254/test2316hv.jpg

Just clicking resume gives me the same but a different temperature.

Im gunna take a look at the power connection to my card but i did find this on the website:

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4316/install9ki.jpg
 

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Turn off any/all temp monitoring programs you have, then run S&M. Seems as though there is a conflict.

I know they state you can share the power connector, but some have reported issues when doing so, and since you are having performance issues, it would be a good idea to try it with a dedicated connection for the process of elimination.
 

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My 3Dmark 05 scores seem low to me too (3800 on P4 3.0Ghz, AGP 6800 128meg, 1GB RAM)

But games for me play good, FEAR was fine too.
 
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