new gaming machine

[hippy2981]

following is the rig so far. would be edited.


MACHINE:
- AMD Opteron 170 Denmark 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model OSA170DAA6CD - Retail
- THERMALRIGHT HEATSINK SI-120 RTL
- FAN PANAFLO 120x38mm FBA12G12M -1J%
- 2GB RAM, Crucial Ballistix 1GBx2 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered System Memory
- DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard
- XFX PVT70FUNF7 Geforce 7800GTX 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card with 450MHz Core and 1250MHz Memory - Retail
- ARCTIC COOLING AVC-NV5R3 NV Silencer Rev.3 - Retail
- Seagate 160GB Serial ATA/150 8MB Buffer ST3160827AS-RK NCQ - Retail Hard Drive Kit
- Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, TUV, CB, FCC CLASS B, CUL - Retail
- MNTR BENQ FP91G+ 19"LCD 8ms DVI
- DVD+/-R_DL BENQ DW1640 FIRMWARE
- Antec P180


probable parts:
creative xfi sound card (cheapest)

UNconfigured parts:
- AMD OPTERON 165 1.8GHZ DUAL CORE W/1MB X 2 CACHE 90NM 64-BIT SOCKET 939 RETAIL BOXED W/COOLING FAN (3 YEARS WARRANTY)
(out of stock!!)
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor, 2.0GHz
(DC opteron 165 is better: lesser price, better o/cing)
- 2GB RAM, OCZ Platinum Series with Enhanced Bandwidth technology (EB) 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered System Memory Model OCZ5001024EBPE - Retail
(OCZ is better in 512MB sticks, ballistix in 1GB sticks)
- 7800GTX 512MB.
(i'm getting a discount from ATI due to which the GFX would be cheaper than the 7800GTX 512MB)
- ATI Radeon X1800 XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
(no discount on this card )
- eVGA 256-P2-N516 Geforce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
(7800GTX is better and decided to afford it )
- DFI LanParty UT RDX200 Cross-Fire Socket 939 ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 CrossFire AMD Motherboard - Retail.
(issues with o/cing)
- Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-480 ATX12V 480W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, TUV, CB, FCC CLASS B, CUL - Retail
(not enough power)
- Western Digital 36.7 WD360GDRTL Raptor 8MB Buffer 10000RPM Serial ATA - Retail Hard Drive Kit
(SATA150 drives would be enough for me)

 

[Logical One]

why are you asking...that's a beast...

 

[hippy2981]

any suggestions on which case to get??!! the rig is mentioned above if you wanna look at it for compatibility.

for the opteron 165, i know that if it's o/ced 400MHz more, it's still cool for the stock cooling. but i might go for the thermalright XP-120 later.
btw, after the case is decided, also shed some light on the psu and how many fans (with mm) would be recommended.

thanks!!!!!!!

 

[Ricemarine]

You have too much money.................... >

 

[hippy2981]

Originally posted by: Ricemarine
You have too much money.................... >

i'm just makin a machine. please help.

 

[hippy2981]

could anyone tell me what's the wattage and voltage needed for the PSU.
is 380Watt, 12V the correct combination??

i looked at this one.
Antec Life Style SONATA Piano Black 0.8mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case TruePower 380Watt ATX12V Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129127

 

[hippy2981]

i read about the antec p180. i think i'll go for it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129154

regarding the PSU: Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-480 ATX12V 480W Power Supply - Retail (85/-)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103929
anyone knows something cheaper than that?? one thing that's a problem with the p180 and psu is that the psu should have a lengthy cable to reach the m/b. does antec TPII-480 has a long enough cable??

also, how many fans would the p180 have in the package?? i think two 120x120x38mm. would i need anymore fans with the rig (if yes, please mention the dimensions)??

 

[GamerExpress]

Originally posted by: Ricemarine
You have too much money.................... >

 

[Phluxed]

Uh.. Get the P180 for sure. People whine on here about it being a pain to work in, but its not NEARLY as bad as people think. It's on par with the reviews youll find in google. They mention you need a little bit of extra 'elbow' work to get it together, but in the end its worth it. It's constructed very well. The P180 comes with 3 case fans.

I was convinced to get a Seasonic 600W PSU. I couldn't be happier. The thing hammers out its rails with very little distortions and its extremely quiet for a PSU. Youre going to want at least 500w to run those components, especially after reading how much of a hog the X1800XT is and with overclocking, you're going to want something that can fill its rails very nicely.

 

[hippy2981]

i decided on the Antec TPII-550 (60/-). hmmmmm, unfortunately, seasonic 600W (~150/-) and seasonic 550W (~125/-) are a little bit expensive .
any idea if the antec tpII 550 would have long cables to reach the m/b?? i think it has but just confirmin. wouldn't the psu would be enough to power the rig?? any issues with the TPII-550?? ex: the OCZ psu used in the anandtech review of p180 didnt fit. i hope the TPII-550 fits.

 

[hippy2981]

on another note, is the Lian Li PC-V1000 (200/-) even a case to consider for a hefty price?? it has same design like the p180 with some serious looks. both are silent.

 

[Midnight Rambler]

Coolermaster Praetorian case ...

 

[hippy2981]

Originally posted by: hippy2981
on another note, is the Lian Li PC-V1000 (200/-) even a case to consider for a hefty price?? it has same design like the p180 with some serious looks. both are silent.

i guess the g5ish looks killed me . btw, pc-v1000 is out.

the below links compares the various setups. the p180 comes out on top in noise and coolin performances with different settings. it beats the pc-v1000 even in noise at the same fan settings. it's 2C more that the coolest in CPU/GPU cooling.

http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling...px?i=2525&p=24

 

[hippy2981]

hmmm, now what happened to the opteron 165 with 2MB cache (and NOT 1MB), 1.8GHz processor. last i saw those available at monarchcomputer.com and mwave.com at ~300/-. it was priced at newegg for a lot more. any ideas??!! it's a great processor and i hope i get it at that price!!!!!!! please help!!!!!

 

[CalamitySymphony]

Its gone. You should have bought them while they were in stock, everyone and their grandmother's bought one.

They are all 1MB Cache. 1x 2 cores = 2 total

 

[hippy2981]

yeah i know. i cant find them anywhere now.
btw, i just saw the specs of opteron 170. i think it's nothin but an o/ced 165. it's priced 50/- more than 165. (

 

[hippy2981]

if anyone finds it where i would get it then please let me know ASAP.

 

[hippy2981]

i'm gettin a discount on the ATI card. now, comparing RADEON X850XT PCIe 256M (200/-) with the 7800GT card, which one would be worth it??

also, lookin at just the 7800GT 256MB cards, i find so may vendors with different core and memory speeds. how can i distinguish between them??
ex: the asus's is at ~380/- (400MHz, 1000MHz) whereas the eVGA's is at ~320/- (445MHz, 1070MHz). how do i compare these two cards??

please help!!!!!

 

[hippy2981]

following is the rig that i would be ordering by tonight. please have a look at it and let me know what you think. to the best of my knowledge, i think all the parts are compatible. please let me know if there's something that i need to worry about.
****i could NOT find the opteron 165 so just going for the opteron 170.****

i ALREADY have the seagate 160GB sata, 7200rpm, and WD 36.7GB, 10000rpm raptor. i would worry about the monitor, dvdw, fdd later.
i would be ordering from newegg since a lot of good reviews from my friends. lookin forward to hear from you all. (*nail-biting*, *nervous*)

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Antec Performance I P180 Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: P180
Item #: N82E16811129154
$25.00 Mail-in Rebate
$124.99 $124.99

AMD-compatible Motherboards
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultr
Item #: N82E16813136152
$125.00 $125.00

Video Cards
eVGA 256-P2-N516 Geforce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: 256-P2-N516
Item #: N82E16814130256
$339.00 -$20.00 Instant
$319.00

Power Supplies
Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: TPII-550
Item #: N82E16817103931
$89.99 $89.99

Memory - System
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model BL2KIT12864Z503 - OEM
Model #: BL2KIT12864Z503
Item #: N82E16820146578
$296.00 $296.00

Processors
AMD Opteron 170 Denmark 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model OSA170DAA6CD - Retail
Model #: OSA170CDBOX
Item #: N82E16819103586
$402.00 $402.00

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Subtotal: $1,356.98
Shipping: $34.79
Total: $1,391.77
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[fire400]

dude just get the system, you'll be happy dandy with it, I don't see any problems with the hardware you're using

 

[BstOnTheBrain]

For Graphics i would DEF. recomend you go SLI ( 2 x High End graphics cards like the geForce 7800GT or GTX) With that you would need to change some things that support SLI like your PSU, MOBO etc.. Read up on it its new and will only get better. Im building a rig really similar to yours. I made a post (Building a Gaming Rig..NEED MUCH ADVICE!) you can check to see what im planing on getting

 

[hippy2981]

Originally posted by: BstOnTheBrain
For Graphics i would DEF. recomend you go SLI ( 2 x High End graphics cards like the geForce 7800GT or GTX) With that you would need to change some things that support SLI like your PSU, MOBO etc.. Read up on it its new and will only get better. Im building a rig really similar to yours. I made a post (Building a Gaming Rig..NEED MUCH ADVICE!) you can check to see what im planing on getting

i know reg the GFX, i would have went higher like the GTX but that is a little expensive for me.

 

[hippy2981]

finally went for the 7800GTX.
Video Cards
XFX PVT70FUNF7 Geforce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card with 450MHz Core and 1250MHz Memory - Retail
Model #: PVT70FUNF7
Item #: N82E16814150100

 

[hippy2981]

ordered the rig:
"MACHINE"
some more things left to buy. would do that in the meantime.
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Antec Performance I P180 Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
$124.99

DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
$125.00

XFX PVT70FUNF7 Geforce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card with 450MHz Core and 1250MHz Memory - Retail
459/-

Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply - Retail
$89.99

Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model BL2KIT12864Z503 - OEM
$296.00

AMD Opteron 170 Denmark 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model OSA170DAA6CD - Retail
$415.00

ARCTIC COOLING AVC-NV5R3 NV Silencer Rev.3 - Retail
$29.99

 

[hippy2981]

any suggestions for the ZALMAN CNPS7700-CU or the SI-120. which one should i go for??