new Ipod/Iphone announced

[FreshPrince]

what's the network speed? EDGE or HSPDA?

how's the battery life?

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2

I don't need more then 900 kbps on my phone.

How much do you pay for a data package and what model is your phone?

Rogo

I don't pay for Data, but Im talking about speeds on the Cingular network with a 3G phone.

 

[BD2003]

It looks cool, but I'm not a fan of the dorky two handed touchscreen action.

 

[Ciber]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
what's the network speed? EDGE or HSPDA?

how's the battery life?

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

More pics and info.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
what's the network speed? EDGE or HSPDA?

how's the battery life?

EDGE
5hr talk/browsing/video/etc time
16hr music playback

And to answer some other questions I've seen through all the threads, I just saw this:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-not-a-smartphone/
--No user replaceable battery
--No memory expansion
--No WiFi iTunes sync nor OTA iTMS purchases
--No real Exchange/Office support

It also mentions no 3rd party software can be installed on it, but I can't believe the widgets will be Apple-only.

 

[Rogodin2]

Wrong:

Read my post again, those prices ARE WITH a 2 year contract at RELEASE, so a treo WILL cost you 499 with contract at release time just like this iphone and it sure as hell won't come with 4 gigs of storage and an integrated ipod.

Treo 700WX is $299 with a two year contract.

A 6700A is the same price: PPC-6700

Rogo

 

[bennylong]

$500? WOW. Too much for this working stiff

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
what's the network speed? EDGE or HSPDA?

how's the battery life?

EDGE
5hr talk/browsing/video/etc time
16hr music playback

And to answer some other questions I've seen through all the threads, I just saw this:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-not-a-smartphone/
--No user replaceable battery
--No memory expansion
--No WiFi iTunes sync nor OTA iTMS purchases
--No real Exchange/Office support

It also mentions no 3rd party software can be installed on it, but I can't believe the widgets will be Apple-only.

hmm, those are some major flaws...

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: loup garou


And to answer some other questions I've seen through all the threads, I just saw this:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-not-a-smartphone/
--No user replaceable battery
--No memory expansion
--No WiFi iTunes sync nor OTA iTMS purchases
--No real Exchange/Office support

It also mentions no 3rd party software can be installed on it, but I can't believe the widgets will be Apple-only.

BARF.
another closed-off product???? so much potential............

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
what's the network speed? EDGE or HSPDA?

how's the battery life?

EDGE
5hr talk/browsing/video/etc time
16hr music playback

And to answer some other questions I've seen through all the threads, I just saw this:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-not-a-smartphone/
--No user replaceable battery
--No memory expansion
--No WiFi iTunes sync nor OTA iTMS purchases
--No real Exchange/Office support

It also mentions no 3rd party software can be installed on it, but I can't believe the widgets will be Apple-only.

hmm, those are some major flaws...

The hardware limitations really suck, but they could remedy the software flaws with updates, of course.

 

[Rogodin2]

don't pay for Data, but Im talking about speeds on the Cingular network with a 3G phone.

Then you're not testing your speed accurately. The 3g system only has a few sites for access. You can't test it. It's okay though-as long as you like your service.

Rogo

 

[Ciber]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2

Read my post again, those prices ARE WITH a 2 year contract at RELEASE, so a treo WILL cost you 499 with contract at release time just like this $299 with a two year.

Treo 700

A 6700A is the same price: PPC-6700

Rogo

1. You need to work on your reading comprehension
2. Learn to link and quote
3. I'll say it again, the prices I quoted are all at each phone's *RELEASE TIME* because it's the only price you can compare the iphone's price to, unless you're an idiot and think it's fair to compare a new phone that's not even out to a phone that has been out for months/years and therefore has steep discounts. Once again, $499 is the standard price out of the gate in this sector of the market with a 2 year contract.

I think some of you are confused, this phone is subsidized just like all the other pda phone's, it is $499 with a two year contract and it will go down in price just like all other phone's most likely.

 

[Rogodin2]

I was hoping it would at least be cross platform-the rest of the hardware limitations make it a flop.

Rogo

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2

don't pay for Data, but Im talking about speeds on the Cingular network with a 3G phone.

Then you're not testing your speed accurately. The 3g system only has a few sites for access. You can't test it. It's okay though-as long as you like your service.

Rogo

Im just going off of what people are writing on howardforums. I perfer GSM phones, I have near-perfect service in my area, and I see no lack of network in my area.

Of course, this could be completely opposite for someone in another area.

 

[vital]

I don't get the hype? What can the iphone do that smartphones can't?

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: vital
I don't get the hype? What can the iphone do that smartphones can't?

Appease the sheep?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: vital
I don't get the hype? What can the iphone do that smartphones can't?

Please Apple fanbois?

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: vital
I don't get the hype? What can the iphone do that smartphones can't?

streamlined cross-compatibility.

watch the flash demonstrations on the apple website - very impressive

 

[Rogodin2]

Read my post again, those prices ARE WITH a 2 year contract at RELEASE, so a treo WILL cost you 499 with contract at release time just like this iphone and it sure as hell won't come with 4 gigs of storage and an integrated ipod.

You're wrong lad. A treo will cost you $299 with a two year contract NOT $499.

TREO and 6700 link You have to enter your zip.

Ad hominem is such a lame argument.

Rogo

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2

Read my post again, those prices ARE WITH a 2 year contract at RELEASE, so a treo WILL cost you 499 with contract at release time just like this iphone and it sure as hell won't come with 4 gigs of storage and an integrated ipod.

You're wrong lad. A treo will cost you $299 with a two year contract NOT $499.

TREO and 6700 link You have to enter your zip.

Ad hominem is such a lame argument.

Rogo

Treo is old news, that's why. When the 650 was first released, it was $499 with a contract, $549 without.

 

[Rogodin2]

I think some of you are confused, this phone is subsidized just like all the other pda phone's, it is $499 with a two year contract and it will go down in price just like all other phone's most likely.

That is conjecture lad. I suspect that if the demand stays steady or rises then the $500 WITH A TWO YEAR CONTRACT will be raised. Learn to read boy.

Rogo

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: vital
I don't get the hype? What can the iphone do that smartphones can't?

user interface. we'll see if it actually pans out and if it can overcome the downfalls it has. this was definitely a disappointment in my book because I didn't want to see another smartphone, even if revamped.. I have no use for one (nor would I spend over $100 on a phone, unless it had a kick ass UI, and well, worked w/ verizon)

oh well. can't wait to see some slingcatcher stuff... so much for the apple tv too.

 

[Rogodin2]

The PPC 6700 is the same price. I'm only quoting prices of examples the iphone people have cited.

Rogo

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: vital
I don't get the hype? What can the iphone do that smartphones can't?

Please Apple fanbois?

"Snyc with iTunes" and "Run OS X" are the only ones I can think of, but then I'm not an Apple fanboy. Personally, I don't see how running Mac OS X is really an advantage, either, as most of the existing OS X applications were never designed to run on a screen that small.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: HN

Originally posted by: her209
Wow... and they said RIMM stock was overhyped. I have to ask, what kind of e-mail services does it provide, ie, push or pull? Oh, and good luck getting this to work with Microsoft's ActiveSync technology or BlackBerry's service. :laugh:

(reposted from the other iPhone thread in case the other one gets locked)

not sure if this addresses the question (as i'm behind on email services stuff) but from Engadget:

"It connects to any POP3 or IMAP email -- Yahoo Mail, MS Exchange, Mac Mail... POP3: Gmail, AOL mail, and most ISPs... let's highlight one, Yahoo mail. Today we are announcing Yahoo will offer free push-IMAP email to iPhone customers. This isn't just IMAP, this is push-email, same as a BlackBerry."

Ahh... so it offers Blackberry-like e-mail experience. However, I wonder if companies will be able to run their own push-IMAP servers to use with the employees' company mailbox. But as it stands right now, it doesn't sound like this phone is targeted for the business users, i.e., why would a company purchase a more expensive phone that will provide more capabilities than needed. And how many users will be running their own IMAP-push servers? Very few.