New Jeep Renegade yay/nay?

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Kaido

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Back in the day, cornering lights came on with your turn signal.

With the disappearing use of turn signals, I guess having them come on when you turn the wheel makes sense.

That's really cool! It's nice on the road because it illuminates curbs, and especially off the road because it illuminates obstacles & gotchas like rocks.
 

Bacstar

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Another nifty Uconnect feature: Hehehe I get a monthly Vehicle Health update from the car. Everything from tire pressures, current mileage, next service mileage and various checks of various systems. Seems kinda pointless, but kinda neat since I'm such a tech nerd.
 

Kaido

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Another nifty Uconnect feature: Hehehe I get a monthly Vehicle Health update from the car. Everything from tire pressures, current mileage, next service mileage and various checks of various systems. Seems kinda pointless, but kinda neat since I'm such a tech nerd.

Is that with the paid service? I'm thinking about going with Viper SmartStart + Automatic or Drive for OBD-II (maybe with a splitter for a ScanGauge II).

Only real issue I've had so far is the squealing brakes. The weird thing is that it doesn't happen all the time, and it's usually only when pressing on the brake pedal lightly. And it usually goes away once they get warmed up.

The heated seats & steering wheel appear to turn on at 40F or less via remote start. Highest it's been here is 38F & it turned them on automatically. There's a couple oddities as well. They put the 911 button where the front left map button should be (and the Uconnect Help call-in button where the right one should be), and made them the same color as the bezel, instead of red & blue like normal. Dealer called 911 on accident while showing me the map lights The tiptronic automatic-manual +/- shifting (useless piece of the shifter) is also reversed...to shift down you push up, which is opposite of every car I've ever driven. Also, the interior lights that turn on when you get in are controlled by a weird dial on the dash rather than a button at each light (e.g. on/off/door):

http://www.jeeprenegadeforum.com/fo...nterior-lights-turn-when-i-open-car-door.html

It's a joy to drive though. I've gotten used to the transmission & it has plenty of power. Like my previous Civic, it's so smooth up to 40 or so that you don't realize it's actually picking up plenty of speed because it feels slow inside the car. You can punch it, which is what takes about three seconds to spin up, but that's really giving it the gas & isn't needed for normal acceleration. You can also play with the angle of your foot & how much pressure you hold on the tach so it jumps up quicker to speed.
 

NutBucket

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Subaru Crosstrek - My number one choice. Felt very powerful and planted. The downfall is rough MPG numbers, and as always with Subaru, alot of $$$ for very little fit and finish. Dealers up north here don't even have to try to sell them, so I would be stuck with the most basic CVT model with no options.
Buy from out of state. Ironically, one dealer that's known for excellent pricing (and a lot of out-of-state sales) is Heuberger Subaru in Colorado Springs. I say ironic since you figure they're in prime Subaru country yet have excellent pricing.

I'd say get a quote from them just to compare. I'm not biased as I didn't buy from them...but I did pay under invoice for our '15 Forester
 

SearchMaster

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It's funny because I thought the heated steering wheel was gimmicky (but cool), but it's turned out to be a legit feature & a favorite of everyone I've taken out in it!

My sister-in-law just got a '16 Sonata and they said the same thing. We live in GA so it doesn't get that cold here but the one thing they rave about their car is the heated steering wheel. I can see the appeal but I can't remember the last time I had cold hands while driving either (unless I had to scrape ice off the windshield or something).
 

Topweasel

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My sister-in-law just got a '16 Sonata and they said the same thing. We live in GA so it doesn't get that cold here but the one thing they rave about their car is the heated steering wheel. I can see the appeal but I can't remember the last time I had cold hands while driving either (unless I had to scrape ice off the windshield or something).
It's not just cold hands, but a cold stearing wheel. Lets say its been 40F or bellow all night. Even if your hands aren't cold, it will take a bit before a steering wheel will heat up naturally with the car.

Recently got a Focus ST (ST3) with heated steering. Not only have I been using it most mornings lately. It's going to be a big life save this winter since I can't have remote start anymore. Partially numb hands on sub 0 tempt steering wheel is a nightmare.
 

jlee

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My sister-in-law just got a '16 Sonata and they said the same thing. We live in GA so it doesn't get that cold here but the one thing they rave about their car is the heated steering wheel. I can see the appeal but I can't remember the last time I had cold hands while driving either (unless I had to scrape ice off the windshield or something).

Get into a car that's -20f and you'll change your mind.
 

BurnItDwn

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We see -20f every few years here, its a bit uncomfortable, but not too bad, nothing like when its over +90F...

speaking of which, I wish they had air conditioned seat belt buckles so the damn things didnt burn my hands!
 

Bacstar

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Is that with the paid service? I'm thinking about going with Viper SmartStart + Automatic or Drive for OBD-II (maybe with a splitter for a ScanGauge II).

Only real issue I've had so far is the squealing brakes. The weird thing is that it doesn't happen all the time, and it's usually only when pressing on the brake pedal lightly. And it usually goes away once they get warmed up.

The heated seats & steering wheel appear to turn on at 40F or less via remote start. Highest it's been here is 38F & it turned them on automatically. There's a couple oddities as well. They put the 911 button where the front left map button should be (and the Uconnect Help call-in button where the right one should be), and made them the same color as the bezel, instead of red & blue like normal. Dealer called 911 on accident while showing me the map lights The tiptronic automatic-manual +/- shifting (useless piece of the shifter) is also reversed...to shift down you push up, which is opposite of every car I've ever driven. Also, the interior lights that turn on when you get in are controlled by a weird dial on the dash rather than a button at each light (e.g. on/off/door):

http://www.jeeprenegadeforum.com/fo...nterior-lights-turn-when-i-open-car-door.html

It's a joy to drive though. I've gotten used to the transmission & it has plenty of power. Like my previous Civic, it's so smooth up to 40 or so that you don't realize it's actually picking up plenty of speed because it feels slow inside the car. You can punch it, which is what takes about three seconds to spin up, but that's really giving it the gas & isn't needed for normal acceleration. You can also play with the angle of your foot & how much pressure you hold on the tach so it jumps up quicker to speed.

I never use the shifter thingy. I did in my 300S because I had paddle shifters on the steering wheel, but it was a novelty that lasted about a week. I kept forgetting to continue shifting , so sometimes I'd notice my revs getting high I eventually figured out how to disable it and go back to fully auto. Anyways, reviews on the 9-speeds say that shifting feature doesn't even work correctly. I have the 6-cyl engine, so I got that stop/start tech which took some getting used to. It's always working too unless you turn it off after first starting the car. Hehehe when I first bought the car, I didn't realize it until I read the manual. It wasn't even mentioned when the salesman showed me the car. (the car was a complete impulse buy for me)

No comment on the 911/help buttons, I've never used them and hopefully, never have reason to. The dials that control lighting are pretty useful once you get used to how it works. One set dims the gage lighting; if you go far enough it clicks, I use it to keep the screen bright. Sometimes it's dark outside enough for the headlights to kick on, but still enough ambient light to make the screen difficult to see. The other dial will adjust the LED lighting in the car door handles, the floor area, one in the overhead controls for sunshade/roof/maplights. I think it's an option package that my car had included. (also a position to turn on all interior lights)

Guess that's why I stick with the same manufacturer. Some features seem not to change much across their entire line of vehicles.
 
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gorcorps

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My sister-in-law just got a '16 Sonata and they said the same thing. We live in GA so it doesn't get that cold here but the one thing they rave about their car is the heated steering wheel. I can see the appeal but I can't remember the last time I had cold hands while driving either (unless I had to scrape ice off the windshield or something).

I do miss the heated steering in my GC. It's one of those things I didn't think I'd want/use, but once it gets cold it's really nice to have.
 

jlee

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We see -20f every few years here, its a bit uncomfortable, but not too bad, nothing like when its over +90F...

speaking of which, I wish they had air conditioned seat belt buckles so the damn things didnt burn my hands!

I'll take 115f over -20f any day...which is why I moved to Phoenix from northern NH.
 

gorcorps

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I'll take 115f over -20f any day...which is why I moved to Phoenix from northern NH.

Screw that... for me it's a lot easier to warm up than it is to cool down. Adding layers is easy, but at a certain temp you NEED A/C to cool down any more.
 

NutBucket

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I'm a lizard. Definitely love the heat! At 100f I'll drive with the windows down and sunroof open!
 

Kaido

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Quick video of the cornering lights, spiffy little feature:

https://vid.me/II4E

I think I've figured out the cornering lights. 3 lighting systems:

1. Headlights
2. Brights
3. Fogs

Headlights are normal, fogs are optional. If you turn on the brights, it disables the fogs. If you pull back to hold the brights, like to flash somebody, it will keep the fogs on. Left/right fog comes on either if your brights are on, or if your headlights are on but with fogs off. They cast a wider angle of light & only turn the left or the right one on when turning, depending on the circumstances. So that explains why I didn't see them all the time.
 

Kaido

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Only 2 complaints so far:

1. Squeaky brakes
2. Crap range

The brakes squeal like they're old. Very annoying. Found a TSB, going to call dealer service to see if I can get the fix. It's embarrassing to be squealing loudly through every brake for the first few minutes of the day. One discussion thread said the repair kit was backordered a month or so ago, so we'll see if they have them available yet!

http://www.carcomplaints.com/Jeep/Renegade/2015/brakes/squealing_brakes.shtml

http://www.jeeprenegadeforum.com/fo...-brakes-noisy-squealing-brakes-thread-10.html

http://oemdtc.com/20240/front-brake-squeaksqueal-noise-2015-jeep-renegade

Range is also junk. Last fillup was 236 miles, best has been 268. Of course, I'm only 3 fillups in, so we'll see how it does over winter & then summer. Wish it had a bigger gas tank! Tracking on Fuelly here:

http://www.fuelly.com/car/jeep/renegade/2015/kaidomac/399729

The clearance has proven extremely nice, as I live in an area with a lot of potholes, uneven roads, and angled entrances to parking lots...don't have to angle my car & go in slowly like I did with my previous Civic, which is really nice. Also, speedbumps are laughable

 

BurnItDwn

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I'll take 115f over -20f any day...which is why I moved to Phoenix from northern NH.

I respect the hell out of you, but, I think you are a bit crazy
115 is nearly enough to properly sear a steak!
 

jlee

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I respect the hell out of you, but, I think you are a bit crazy
115 is nearly enough to properly sear a steak!

It's nearly enough to cook a steak all the way through, but nowhere near enough to sear it.
 

BurnItDwn

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The heat in Phoenix is totally different than the heat in Mn or IL

I have experienced the heat in Las Vegas, and at 110 deg, it was unbearable, like the hot air that comes from the oven when you open it to check on the meat.
 
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