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torpid

Lifer
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What sort of things does a person who has a CRT and no online presence and an ancient computer buy online? I'm going to assume that it is magazines about Bridge.
 

EliteRetard

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seems you've just done exactly that :awe:

also widescreen isn't regular screen chopped off, it's regular screen with more content on the sides.

maybe for sd material a CRT tube would be better, but no way you can seriously say that a good 1080p blu-ray on a quality lcd or plasma doesn't look better than a dvd on a crt.
the CRT may be technically able to display more lines, but any source that still plays on a CRT has pitiful resolution.

since it seems you were talking about CRT monitors & not tvs though, please point me to the crt monitor with > 3840x2160 resolution that you own.

If you can trust what I say to be accurate, then there is a list of things I have not done.

Widescreen is chopped off, 1920x1080 vs 1920x1440.
Or 1600x900 vs 1600x1200 or 1280x720 vs 1280x960.

For higher res 2560x1440 vs 2560x1920

My CRT is right here.

You can have a big hug too:

 

EliteRetard

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What sort of things does a person who has a CRT and no online presence and an ancient computer buy online? I'm going to assume that it is magazines about Bridge.

Perhaps a video game? Maybe a microphone? Airline ticket? Clothes? Uh...tractor plates?
There seems to be many options for online shopping.
I did just get SC2 for $18 from Newegg.
Last purchase before that was in April/May 2012 if I recall correctly.

Though even for signing up to a forum they usually require an email. So while rarely used, an email account is required for some online usage. But a simple send receive is all that is needed with a basic folder and delete system with click or drag drop. 14 steps in a stupid animated menu to get rid of an erroneous email is just insane. Automatically adding all your personal identification and the system specs your sending from in every email is just stupid. It's like you guys are in a contest with the government to see who can be the absolute least efficient.
 

Kev

Lifer
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And they're still overall superior to any LCD

Now get me a 24" monitor with at least 2048x1536 120Hz accurate color and good screen/color/brightness uniformity. Then let the CRT die.

You still haven't told us what amazing CRT you are using.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Only the professional grade CRTs are better than todays LCD. And the average user never had a top of the line CRT.
 
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I'm in a thread about Outlook and then I go to page 2, go setup a new account come back and I'm like "CRTs? The fuck? Great another necro'd thread" only its still the Outlook.com thread.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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Am I the only one who uses a 7 year old phone and PC and doesn't have a single Google service or account (including YouTube), no social media, or messaging programs? Never used Android Apple or Linux? Doesn't own a laptop, tablet, or "portable device" and still uses a CRT? Thinks that all this newfangled touch shit is retarded as hell and Win8 is by far the worst thing ever created (worse than WinME). Doesn't own a TV, dislikes "widescreen" (or rather regular screen chopped off), and laughs at the pathetic "HD" resolution that is 1/2 the resolution and lower quality than my ancient glass tube?

I still remember when things were simple easy to use/understand and could do anything you wanted/needed. Now its all ads in your face stupid complicated shit that doesn't make sense and rarely works. Nothing is compatible with anything else and I feel like the PC died years ago.

Who uses their name in their email? The only reason I have one is for things like online shopping. I rarely check it more than once a month. Why does everybody think its cool to post their entire life online, selling their mind body and soul to anybody and anything that wanders by?

Soon you guys start taking computer implants and let the government or Google or whoever control you. I will fight to the death.

Perspective, man. Perspective.

My everyday monitors are 1920x1200 (16:10 aspect). I also have a 2560x1600 display. Nearly all content is produced to target wide-screen output...and it has been that way for YEARS. If you have a 4:3 display today, a lot of your content is shrunken or the sides are chopped-off. It's exactly the opposite of how things were when widescreen had only just started to catch on.

The best way to use YouTube is with subscriptions and custom-tailored suggestions. You can watch that for hours. You're missing out.
 
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EliteRetard

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Perspective, man. Perspective.

My everyday monitors are 1920x1200 (16:10 aspect). I also have a 2560x1600 display. Nearly all content is produced to target wide-screen output...an DIY has been that way for YEARS. If you have a 4:3 display today, a lot of your content is shrunken or the sides are chopped-off. It's exactly the opposite of how things were when widescreen had only just started to catch on.

The best way to use YouTube is with subscriptions and custom-tailored suggestions. You can watch that for hours. You're missing out.

I can see all HD content at 1920x1440.
You yourself are not running the lower res "HD" crap either...still loosing some to my 4:3 though.

For hours of YouTube, repeat.

And 90% of widescreens never display widescreen. I know many people with a wide variety of cable/satellite TV on new plasma/lcd and there is almost always bars. Until somebody can come up with a true screen standard and gets everybody to move to it there will always be bars. Id rather have the higher resolution of 4:3 if I'm gonna have bars anyway...especially for a PC monitor where work is the primary function. The increased screen real estate is very useful.

Now if they actually upgraded over time and used a true "HD" for widescreen then it could have its place. Since everybody wants crazy wide lets just go all out for the widest widescreen and get some decent DPI at say 5400x2250 and 7200x3000 for low and high. No that's not crazy, far lower DPI than my monitor...but with cinema you don't need quite as much. The 30-50 DPI we're running now is whats crazy. Settle on 30FPS too instead of this retarded 24FPS crap, or come up with another standard that properly displays on any screen without interpolation and frame jutter. You don't need as many frames for cinema, so recorded 30FPS should be fine, doubled for 60Hz displays. Perhaps we could settle on 120Hz minimum and go 40FPS, then use 240Hz active for 3D.
 

Sonikku

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I once had a Sony FW900 I got used for $300 and it was better than the Asus lcd I have now. I'd still be using it if it hadn't stopped working after 5 years.
 

Ichinisan

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I can see all HD content at 1920x1440.
You yourself are not running the lower res "HD" crap either...still loosing some to my 4:3 though.

For hours of YouTube, repeat.

And 90% of widescreens never display widescreen. I know many people with a wide variety of cable/satellite TV on new plasma/lcd and there is almost always bars. Until somebody can come up with a true screen standard and gets everybody to move to it there will always be bars. Id rather have the higher resolution of 4:3 if I'm gonna have bars anyway...especially for a PC monitor where work is the primary function. The increased screen real estate is very useful.

Now if they actually upgraded over time and used a true "HD" for widescreen then it could have its place. Since everybody wants crazy wide lets just go all out for the widest widescreen and get some decent DPI at say 5400x2250 and 7200x3000 for low and high. No that's not crazy, far lower DPI than my monitor...but with cinema you don't need quite as much. The 30-50 DPI we're running now is whats crazy. Settle on 30FPS too instead of this retarded 24FPS crap, or come up with another standard that properly displays on any screen without interpolation and frame jutter. You don't need as many frames for cinema, so recorded 30FPS should be fine, doubled for 60Hz displays. Perhaps we could settle on 120Hz minimum and go 40FPS, then use 240Hz active for 3D.
1920x1440 is wide. To watch it on your 4:3 display would reduce the size significantly. I can't stand pan-and-scan, cropping, or stretching...but I also would much prefer an aspect like 16:10 that offers a great compromise. Most content is HD / wide and I can watch with the original aspect ratio and have room for playback controls that do not cover any of the 16:9 video. Old SD content fits a lot better and looks a lot larger than it would on a 16:9 display.

So...you'd prefer to blow-up blurry standard-def 4:3 content (emphasizing the lack of detail) and shrink the high-def wide-screen content? I prefer the opposite, thankyouverymuch.
 
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EliteRetard

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1920x1440 is wide. To watch it on your 4:3 display would reduce the size significantly. I can't stand pan-and-scan, cropping, or stretching...but I also would much prefer an aspect like 16:10 that offers a great compromise. Most content is HD / wide and I can watch with the original aspect ratio and have room for playback controls that do not cover any of the 16:9 video. Old SD content fits a lot better and looks a lot larger than it would on a 16:9 display.

So...you'd prefer to blow-up blurry standard-def 4:3 content (emphasizing the lack of detail) and shrink the high-def wide-screen content? I prefer the opposite, thankyouverymuch.

You obviously don't understand.
1920 divided by 1440 is 1.333~ the same as 4 divided by 3. Not a wide aspect ratio...
I can easily display any 1920x1080 content inside my current 1920x1440 resolution without any panning cropping or stretching.

I can also properly display 4:3 content that isn't stretched or ugly...in fact the massively better contrast (black level), color, uniformity, and higher PPI of my monitor make all movie content look much better than a cheap TN.

Complete opposite of what you say.

Edit: My monitor can also natively support "24 FPS" content as well as "30 FPS" content. Your 60hz monitor can not.
 
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wirednuts

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has anyone tried burger kings new chicken mcnuggets? theyre pretty close to mcdonalds now...
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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I can easily display any 1920x1080 content inside my current 1920x1440 resolution without any panning cropping or stretching.
...which means the highest detail source material you can find will not use an optimal amount of space on your monitor. It will appear shrunken and your eyes will have to try harder to make out the details.

I can also properly display 4:3 content that isn't stretched or ugly
Actually, you'll have a hard time finding 4:3 source material that is > 480p. Even if you think you found something, it's would be almost always up-scaled from 480p...which would be scaled and ugly. Otherwise, it was shot natively in a wide aspect and cropped to 4:3. Locally-generated content (like games and web pages) would be the only practical way to get the most out of 1920x1440.

in fact the massively better contrast (black level), color, uniformity, and higher PPI of my monitor make all movie content look much better than a cheap TN.
"Higher PPI." You're saying movies look better when you display the same amount of detail and just make it tiny! I'd prefer a monitor that can display the image a bit larger. That way my eyes can make out the detail.

The fact is, your setup is absolutely awful for content consumption. HD stuff will be wide-screen and will only use a small portion of the screen area; the best SD stuff will fill the screen area and scale 3x with integer scaling, emphasizing just how low-def it is. The fact is, a lot of 4:3 SD material on the Internet isn't even 640x480. A lot of 4:3 web content is lower than standard def. Some SD content is wide too (720x480) and will have imprecise non-integer scaling. It's lose-lose for content consumption.
 
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EliteRetard

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Why do elephants paint their toenails red?

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So they can hide in cherry trees...

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Never seen an elephant in a cherry tree?

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Works don't it?
 

Kev

Lifer
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You obviously don't understand.
1920 divided by 1440 is 1.333~ the same as 4 divided by 3. Not a wide aspect ratio...
I can easily display any 1920x1080 content inside my current 1920x1440 resolution without any panning cropping or stretching.

I can also properly display 4:3 content that isn't stretched or ugly...in fact the massively better contrast (black level), color, uniformity, and higher PPI of my monitor make all movie content look much better than a cheap TN.

Complete opposite of what you say.

Edit: My monitor can also natively support "24 FPS" content as well as "30 FPS" content. Your 60hz monitor can not.

You are incredibly stupid.
 
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