New PhysX thread.

[Keysplayr]

Updating with some 9600GSO numbers.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Updating with some 9600GSO numbers.

why no gtx280 runs in Cryostasis?? I really want to see if the 8600gt would help in that game with a single gpu.

 

[Keysplayr]

It's coming it's coming. Doing this in my spare time, which is sparse with two young children and a wife who works nights.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Keysplayr
It's coming it's coming. Doing this in my spare time, which is sparse with two young children and a wife who works nights.

okay. I didnt know if it was still in the works...

 

[Keysplayr]

Hehe, it's not that easy around here. 1/2 the cards I have, are in use. The 8800GTS, the GTX280, are in my wifes rig and my sons rig. I have to wait til they are done with their computers (which is never), go to sleep, or leave the house to open them up and take the cards to test. It's intermittent, and a pain. But, little by little. It's not like I have them all neatly lined up on a shelf for my beckoned call. hehe. But, we'll get there.

 

[Keysplayr]

Ok, some more 9600GSO entries. And coming up in a few minutes, GTX280 + 8600GT / GTX280 + 9600GSO in Mirrors Edge and Cryostasis. (toyota).

 

[imported_Shaq]

Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Ok, some more 9600GSO entries. And coming up in a few minutes, GTX280 + 8600GT / GTX280 + 9600GSO in Mirrors Edge and Cryostasis. (toyota).

:thumbsup: It looks like a GTX 260 or 280 is required to have PhysX with no framerate drops. Only the Cryostasis game benchmarks are needing a less powerful card.

Are you running the game with the advanced PhysX patch? You could open the console by enabling it in the init.cfg in\data\scripts. Then you can type "give watercannon" in the console(`) and shoot that while breaking some icicles and really test the PhysX load. It will have unlimited ammo so it is quite a stressful test. I tried that with the Ageia PPU and got FPS in the teens. Now with the 260 there is barely a framerate drop.

 

[EnzoLT]

WOW thanks for this. So this 8600gt thats lying around is enough for PhysX then based on the tests that you did. Again, THANKS!!

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: EnzoLT
WOW thanks for this. So this 8600gt thats lying around is enough for PhysX then based on the tests that you did. Again, THANKS!!

It seems that's the case. Performance improvement varies per game, as the chart shows.
And no telling yet if it will be enough for new games that release and how much PhysX content there will be.

 

[mark076h]

For those of you that are really into PhysX and game physics I have recently started a blog dedicated to PhysX and gaming Physics along with other upcoming game technologies, check it out MOD EDIT - LINK REMOVED, if anyone has a passion for this stuff and would like to help me out and post articles or whatever feel free to contact me.



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[Zogrim]

mark076h
and you just plain copied most valuable content (bench graphs) from Keysplayr's website in your blog.. looks like bad form to me. But let's wait what author will say)

Keysplayr
Any plans to add Darkest of Days demo benchmark to your list ?

 

[imported_Shaq]

http://www.gamephys.com/2009/0...-which-card-is-enough/

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Zogrim
mark076h
and you just plain copied most valuable content (bench graphs) from Keysplayr's website in your blog.. looks like bad form to me. But let's wait what author will say)

I think Amber spoke loud and clear on this matter. Can't create an account just to promote one's site.
As for his blog, it's ok I guess. The PhysX tests aren't restricted just to AT'ers.

Keysplayr
Any plans to add Darkest of Days demo benchmark to your list ?

Yes, of course. As soon as I can.

This weekend, all the missing numbers you see in the graphs will be filled in. Sorry it's taking so long for this, but I can only really do the testing in short bursts. hehe.

 

[toyota]

nevermind

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: toyota
nevermind

What's on your mind bud?

 

[lavaheadache]

results are coming along nicely

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Originally posted by: toyota
nevermind

What's on your mind bud?

I was just about to rant about how awful the overall graphics look in Darkest of Days but I figured that really didnt matter as for as the physx testing would go.

anyway thanks for the 8600gt tests but I am still on the fence about whether to fool with putting mine in my gaming pc or not. Batman demo, Mirrors Edge and Darkest of Days are smooth enough just on the gtx260 and I dont know if I will even buy Cryostasis or not. the demo for that game just didnt impress me.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache
results are coming along nicely

Thanks Lava.. Oh crap. Your PM. Sorry about that. I did not yet pick up the V8. Things come up all the time here and couldn't get there last weekend. Tomorrow is a different story. I'm off to MC in the AM.

As for the results, they are all in. Done!!!! All graphs completed. And a pic of all the duckies in a row!

I hope you guys enjoyed this stuff as much as I did. I can always add more games as they come out.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Originally posted by: toyota
nevermind

What's on your mind bud?

I was just about to rant about how awful the overall graphics look in Darkest of Days but I figured that really didnt matter as for as the physx testing would go.

anyway thanks for the 8600gt tests but I am still on the fence about whether to fool with putting mine in my gaming pc or not. Batman demo, Mirrors Edge and Darkest of Days are smooth enough just on the gtx260 and I dont know if I will even buy Cryostasis or not. the demo for that game just didnt impress me.

I gotcha. Since you have the 8600GT already, I would try it. It doesn't hurt. But if you notice no discernable difference, then just pull it out. The benches show that some games just break even with the 8600GT, so YMMV. I would think though, that the higher you go in resolution, the better it would be to take the PhysX stress off of the primary GPU.
If you do decide to try it out, let us know what you feel about it.

 

[mark076h]

Originally posted by: Zogrim
mark076h
and you just plain copied most valuable content (bench graphs) from Keysplayr's website in your blog.. looks like bad form to me. But let's wait what author will say)

Keysplayr
Any plans to add Darkest of Days demo benchmark to your list ?

I gave all the credit?

 

[Qbah]

Excellent job Keys :thumbsup: This is something I have been looking for since PhysX started. The data gives a pretty complete view on what performance penalty PhysX brings. Looks like a 96sp 9600GSO is the sweet spot here. Pretty much equals a 8800GTS512 on all tests. And the GTX280 doesn't give any benefits over those two cards. A 8600GT doesn't cut it. I wonder if newer PhysX games will stress the system even more.

Again, thanks for the effort. Appreciated

 

[wrangler]

At the top you list the 9600GSO as a 512MB version but in the tables it is listed as a 96sp version which would be either 384 or 768MB.

Just wondering which it really is.

Nice job though. Really appreciate it.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: wrangler
At the top you list the 9600GSO as a 512MB version but in the tables it is listed as a 96sp version which would be either 384 or 768MB.

Just wondering which it really is.

Nice job though. Really appreciate it.

It is a 9600GSO. It has 96 shader processors. It has 512MB of 128-bit GDDR3

Link: ASUS 9600GSO 96 shaders, 512MB 128-bit GDDR3

Would you like a GPUz screenshot?

 

[MODEL3]

Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Originally posted by: wrangler
At the top you list the 9600GSO as a 512MB version but in the tables it is listed as a 96sp version which would be either 384 or 768MB.

Just wondering which it really is.

Nice job though. Really appreciate it.

It is a 9600GSO. It has 96 shader processors. It has 512MB of 128-bit GDDR3

Link: ASUS 9600GSO 96 shaders, 512MB 128-bit GDDR3

Would you like a GPUz screenshot?

WTF?

9600GSO was at launch a G92 (e.g. 8800GTS) with 12ROPs/96SPs with 384MB or 768MB (so it was a 8800GS)

http://www.nvidia.com/object/p...force_9600_gso_us.html

then after some time NV added the following model:

a G94 (e.g. 9600GT) with 16ROPs/48SPs with 512MB

http://www.nvidia.com/object/p...e_9600_gso_512_us.html


Now they sold to ASUS G92 desings with full 16 working ROPs (16ROPs/96SPs) with 512MB and they still call them 9600GSO? (I would call them 9600GTX or better 9800GSO, no skip that GT235 is the name... :laugh: )


I didn't saw this with other brand, so is it because ASUS is a huge player and can make special deals (taking whole quanity for these specific models)?

Or is it that from now on, there will exist (for all the brands) also 9600GSO 96SPs 512MB?

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: MODEL3

Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Originally posted by: wrangler
At the top you list the 9600GSO as a 512MB version but in the tables it is listed as a 96sp version which would be either 384 or 768MB.

Just wondering which it really is.

Nice job though. Really appreciate it.

It is a 9600GSO. It has 96 shader processors. It has 512MB of 128-bit GDDR3

Link: ASUS 9600GSO 96 shaders, 512MB 128-bit GDDR3

Would you like a GPUz screenshot?

WTF?

9600GSO was at launch a G92 (e.g. 8800GTS) with 12ROPs/96SPs with 384MB or 768MB (so it was a 8800GS)

http://www.nvidia.com/object/p...force_9600_gso_us.html

then after some time NV added the following model:

a G94 (e.g. 9600GT) with 16ROPs/48SPs with 512MB

http://www.nvidia.com/object/p...e_9600_gso_512_us.html


Now they sold to ASUS G92 desings with full 16 working ROPs (16ROPs/96SPs) with 512MB and they still call them 9600GSO? (I would call them 9600GTX or better 9800GSO, no skip that GT235 is the name... :laugh: )


I didn't saw this with other brand, so is it because ASUS is a huge player and can make special deals (taking whole quanity for these specific models)?

Or is it that from now on, there will exist (for all the brands) also 9600GSO 96SPs 512MB?

ASUS has had other strange cards like that too.