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moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: moshquerade
as far as i have been to both and that is my opinion. who says there is 1/10000th the crime? post a link to that stat.
NYC won't be hit by terrorists again, but Toronto hasn't been put to that test.

Explain? What test? You think if any other major metropolitan city was hit, they'd just sit on their ass and cry? :roll:
Toronto hasn't been hit - therefore they haven't been tested to see how well they are prepared to stop the attack or to deal with it.
 

Qwest

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also check out brooklyn...it's becoming the place to live now.

all the yuppies as well as young couples are movin out to park slope and some other nice areas.

i dont know how much there really is to see in queens, you might as well go further east and see long island.

 

Ninjja

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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Toronto pwnz j00
(most multicultural diverse city in the world...easiest place to blend in if you're on the run )
I have to agree, Toronto is better than NYC.
They both suck compared to Chicago, though.
what makes Toronto better than NYC, the skydome?
Well, for one thing, the people in Toronto are genuinely nicer (and aren't pushy, asking "what makes you think THAT?" every second ) - and they don't need some silly structure to prove that they're better - in another words, they don't have the need to compensate for something. :thumbsup:

Anyhoo, Toronto is definitely much, much cleaner than NYC. That's a HUGE plus.

Yeah, but I think what moshquerade is trying to say, is that the cleanliness, the lack of crime, that's not what you go to NYC for. You go for the hustle and the bustle, central park, museums, hotdog stands, restaurants, vibrant all night night-life etc.....And you can't really get this jumbled concoction anywhere else. That's why it thrills people so much and why people love it.
 

TheAudit

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: moshquerade
is quite possibly the best city on the planet.


othen than the fact that it's crowded and noisy and full of New Yorkers.... that is
it's alive. i like alive.


i even got to check out the naked cowboy - a true NYC icon.

I saw the Naked friggin? Cowboy during the winter once.
It was freezing cold out but there he was getting his picture taken.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jehovah
Well, for one thing, the people in Toronto are genuinely nicer (and aren't pushy, asking "what makes you think THAT?" every second ) - and they don't need some silly structure to prove that they're better - in another words, they don't have the need to compensate for something. :thumbsup:
Anyhoo, Toronto is definitely much, much cleaner than NYC. That's a HUGE plus.
heh. try being a Yankee fan in Toronto. they weren't very "nice" to me.
Well, if you're a Yankee fan, you deserve what's coming.
yeh, all i had was a navy t-shirt with the NY Yankee insigna on it and i got razzed by peeps all over.
i wonder if i had a BlueJays shirt on in NYC if the same would happen.

 
Dec 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: moshquerade
as far as i have been to both and that is my opinion. who says there is 1/10000th the crime? post a link to that stat.
NYC won't be hit by terrorists again, but Toronto hasn't been put to that test.
Explain? What test? You think if any other major metropolitan city was hit, they'd just sit on their ass and cry? :roll:
Toronto hasn't been hit - therefore they haven't been tested to see how well they are prepared to stop the attack or to deal with it.
Well, and I'm not trying to belittle all the loss of the twin towers, mind you, but NYC wasn't exactly prepared to "stop the attack", did they?

I seriously can't believe that you're thinking no other city would react in the same exact manner if such a thing happened.

People would react and gather all their resources to help if the Sears Tower was hit in Chicago
People would react and gather all their resources to help if the Eiffel Tower was hit in Paris
People would react and gather all their resources to help if the San Francisco Bridge was hit in San Francisco
People would react and gather all their resources to watch and laugh if Hollywood was hit in Hollywood (well, maybe not, but you get the idea)
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: moshquerade
is quite possibly the best city on the planet.


othen than the fact that it's crowded and noisy and full of New Yorkers.... that is
it's alive. i like alive.


i even got to check out the naked cowboy - a true NYC icon.

I saw the Naked friggin? Cowboy during the winter once.
It was freezing cold out but there he was getting his picture taken.
he's gotta be on something
 

raystorm

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Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade

yeh, all i had was a navy t-shirt with the NY Yankee insigna on it and i got razzed by peeps all over.
i wonder if i had a BlueJays shirt on in NYC if the same would happen.

Nothing would happen if you wore a Blue Jays shirt in NYC. Now if you wore a Red Sox jersey you may get a comment or two..maybe. I lived in NYC my entire life and when I got occasional jabs from god damn yankee fans when I wear my Mets gear. Fack them I say!

As for the Naked Cowboy..he makes plenty of money. Thats why he does it even during the winter. I remember something on tv about him and he said he makes plenty from tourists.

 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: moshquerade
as far as i have been to both and that is my opinion. who says there is 1/10000th the crime? post a link to that stat.
NYC won't be hit by terrorists again, but Toronto hasn't been put to that test.
Explain? What test? You think if any other major metropolitan city was hit, they'd just sit on their ass and cry? :roll:
Toronto hasn't been hit - therefore they haven't been tested to see how well they are prepared to stop the attack or to deal with it.
Well, and I'm not trying to belittle all the loss of the twin towers, mind you, but NYC wasn't exactly prepared to "stop the attack", did they?

I seriously can't believe that you're thinking no other city would react in the same exact manner if such a thing happened.

People would react and gather all their resources to help if the Sear Tower was hit in Chicago
People would react and gather all their resources to help if the Eiffel Tower was hit in Paris
People would react and gather all their resources to help if the San Francisco Bridge was hit in San Francisco
People would react and gather all their resources to watch and laugh if Hollywood was hit in Hollywood (well, maybe not, but you get the idea)
i wasn't even going there. you are making what i said out to be more than what i meant it to be.
i am just saying NYC is more prepared now than they were. other cities have yet to go through what they have.
 

Rudee

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I had never seen a Cockroach or a Rat before in my entire life until I visited NYC my first time a couple years back. I was sitting on the bench waiting for the Subway when I saw a rat chase a roach.
 

TheAudit

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May 2, 2003
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
he's gotta be on something

Seriously, I was DYING, it was so cold out. We just wanted to get to where we were going.
But he was out there like it was nothing. Kudos for him! :thumbsup:
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Rudee
I had never seen a Cockroach or a Rat before in my entire life until I visited NYC my first time a couple years back. I was sitting on the bench waiting for the Subway when I saw a rat chase a roach.
too bad you didn't videotape it so you could post it on ATOT

 

TheAudit

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Originally posted by: Rudee
I had never seen a Cockroach or a Rat before in my entire life until I visited NYC my first time a couple years back. I was sitting on the bench waiting for the Subway when I saw a rat chase a roach.

I saw a rat the size of a small cat in Chinatown.
It was running down the middle of the street!
That is, it was running, until a taxi crushed it.
 

raystorm

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Originally posted by: Rudee
I had never seen a Cockroach or a Rat before in my entire life until I visited NYC my first time a couple years back. I was sitting on the bench waiting for the Subway when I saw a rat chase a roach.

I've seen a huge rat chase a person in a subway...those things are like bears in some parts of NYC. We also have industrial size roaches..that fly.
 

theNEOone

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Originally posted by: Ninjja
Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Toronto pwnz j00
(most multicultural diverse city in the world...easiest place to blend in if you're on the run )
I have to agree, Toronto is better than NYC.
They both suck compared to Chicago, though.
what makes Toronto better than NYC, the skydome?
Well, for one thing, the people in Toronto are genuinely nicer (and aren't pushy, asking "what makes you think THAT?" every second ) - and they don't need some silly structure to prove that they're better - in another words, they don't have the need to compensate for something. :thumbsup:

Anyhoo, Toronto is definitely much, much cleaner than NYC. That's a HUGE plus.

Yeah, but I think what moshquerade is trying to say, is that the cleanliness, the lack of crime, that's not what you go to NYC for. You go for the hustle and the bustle, central park, museums, hotdog stands, restaurants, vibrant all night night-life etc.....And you can't really get this jumbled concoction anywhere else. That's why it thrills people so much and why people love it.
exactly.

toronto > nyc? you sir need to put down the crack pipe. NYC's accomplishments, international prestige, and influence put it in a class in which toronto isn't even allowed to participate. the thrill of NYC is that it is multidimensional. you can live there your entire life and do something new every day. clean streets doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it only makes it cleaner. nicer people doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it just makes it friendly. the grandeur of nyc cannot be encapsulated in simple little categories such as cleanliness. compare it all you want on paper, but you won't know until you're there.

i only hope that one day i will be able to move back.

here's to new york, the greatest city in the world. :beer:


=|
 
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Originally posted by: theNEOone
toronto > nyc? you sir need to put down the crack pipe. NYC's accomplishments, international prestige, and influence put it in a class in which toronto isn't even allowed to participate. the thrill of NYC is that it is multidimensional. you can live there your entire life and do something new every day. clean streets doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it only makes it cleaner. nicer people doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it just makes it friendly. the grandeur of nyc cannot be encapsulated in simple little categories such as cleanliness. compare it all you want on paper, but you won't know until you're there.

i only hope that one day i will be able to move back.

here's to new york, the greatest city in the world. :beer:


=|

By that logic, accomplishments don't make NYC better than Toronto, it's just more accomplished
international prestiege doesn't make NYC better than Toronto, it's just more recognized internationally
influence doesn't make NYC better than Toronto, it just has more influence.

By my standards (since the word "better" is so very objective :roll: ), Toronto is better. And NYC may be better than Toronto by *your* standards, it's still filthy.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: theNEOone
toronto > nyc? you sir need to put down the crack pipe. NYC's accomplishments, international prestige, and influence put it in a class in which toronto isn't even allowed to participate. the thrill of NYC is that it is multidimensional. you can live there your entire life and do something new every day. clean streets doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it only makes it cleaner. nicer people doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it just makes it friendly. the grandeur of nyc cannot be encapsulated in simple little categories such as cleanliness. compare it all you want on paper, but you won't know until you're there.

i only hope that one day i will be able to move back.

here's to new york, the greatest city in the world. :beer:


=|

By that logic, accomplishments don't make NYC better than Toronto, it's just more accomplished
international prestiege doesn't make NYC better than Toronto, it's just more recognized internationally
influence doesn't make NYC better than Toronto, it just has more influence.

By my standards (since the word "better" is so very objective :roll: ), Toronto is better. And NYC may be better than Toronto by *your* standards, it's still filthy.
when was the last time you went to NYC? it is NOT filthy.
 

forumJunkie

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Originally posted by: xospec1alk
why in the world would you drive in the city? and in midtown no less....the traffic there is horrendous...

i love taking the train to work. 4/5/6 are my best friends =)


seriously~ and the fact that they paid a million dollars per train they better be my best friends
 

SWScorch

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: SWScorch
wouldn't know; I don't really pay attention to the beer scene
do you run in the boilermaker?

yep! I'm shooting for a 65:00 next year, as I ran 70:24 this year with little training. You should come and cheer for me
 

theNEOone

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: theNEOone
toronto > nyc? you sir need to put down the crack pipe. NYC's accomplishments, international prestige, and influence put it in a class in which toronto isn't even allowed to participate. the thrill of NYC is that it is multidimensional. you can live there your entire life and do something new every day. clean streets doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it only makes it cleaner. nicer people doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it just makes it friendly. the grandeur of nyc cannot be encapsulated in simple little categories such as cleanliness. compare it all you want on paper, but you won't know until you're there.

i only hope that one day i will be able to move back.

here's to new york, the greatest city in the world. :beer:


=|

By that logic, accomplishments don't make NYC better than Toronto, it's just more accomplished
international prestiege doesn't make NYC better than Toronto, it's just more recognized internationally
influence doesn't make NYC better than Toronto, it just has more influence.

By my standards (since the word "better" is so very objective :roll: ), Toronto is better. And NYC may be better than Toronto by *your* standards, it's still filthy.
when was the last time you went to NYC? it is NOT filthy.
eh, just let it be. he doesn't know what he's talking about.


=|
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I live in America's finest city. San Diego.

Edit-I'm formerly from New York.
my brother lives in San Diego. he wants to get back to NY in the worst way.
and i have been there 4 times. i still think NYC>SanDiego

 

theNEOone

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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: theNEOone
toronto > nyc? you sir need to put down the crack pipe. NYC's accomplishments, international prestige, and influence put it in a class in which toronto isn't even allowed to participate. the thrill of NYC is that it is multidimensional. you can live there your entire life and do something new every day. clean streets doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it only makes it cleaner. nicer people doesn't make toronto better than nyc, it just makes it friendly. the grandeur of nyc cannot be encapsulated in simple little categories such as cleanliness. compare it all you want on paper, but you won't know until you're there.

i only hope that one day i will be able to move back.

here's to new york, the greatest city in the world. :beer:


=|

By that logic, accomplishments don't make NYC better than Toronto, it's just more accomplished
international prestiege doesn't make NYC better than Toronto, it's just more recognized internationally
influence doesn't make NYC better than Toronto, it just has more influence.

By my standards (since the word "better" is so very objective :roll: ), Toronto is better. And NYC may be better than Toronto by *your* standards, it's still filthy.
you sir, have missed my point. although you claimed toronto was better because it was cleaner and friendlier, i never claimed that nyc was better because of its accomplishments and prestige. i was merely pointing out these facts. my point, in case you can't read is [quoted from above, underlined, and bold-faced for empasis]:
the grandeur of nyc cannot be encapsulated in simple little categories


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CChaos

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This conversation would be so much better if everyone could avoid superlatives. There are so many interesting places to see for various reasons. NYC is pretty damn cool, but I'm partial to Amsterdam. Maybe New York needs more canals...
 
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