Nikon D810

Syborg1211

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Any thoughts on this new camera announcement?

Nikon D810 Recap

ISO64 should be interesting, and, as a D800E owner, the prospect of better autofocus sounds very appealing to me.

It might be time to dump my backup D600 and demote the D800E for me (which makes sense for me because they use the same battery grip so I no longer have to carry around the D600 with grip just for a backup at on-location shoots).

Anyone else going to pick this camera up?
 

ironmask

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I think until a camera comes out with bird in flight and bullet on impact modes with auto it knows where I want focused mode, I'll stick with my d7100. I've owned both ff and crop, and I managed to pull out of the iwantgearitus and settle on a good in betweener. Nothing impresses me anymore. Sadness and financial happiness at the same time.
 

finbarqs

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Just get it for the honey moon phase. Once it's over, it's all up to you again.
 

microAmp

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I'll drool for it but that's about it. One day I'll go FF but no hurry, I like my D7000. Whatever I get FF, down the road, it'll just compliment my DX camera.
 
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Railgun

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Maybe...my D700 may be getting a little long in the tooth, but I love its speed. However, I also wouldn't mind my next body having some nice video features (read 4k?) so I may wait again.

What I would love is for Nikon to make their evolutionary products similar enough so that I don't need to contunually buy additional accessories (grip for example).

For my shots though, I'd love the resolution bump.
 

Syborg1211

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I think until a camera comes out with bird in flight and bullet on impact modes with auto it knows where I want focused mode, I'll stick with my d7100.

Lol, so I guess you're never getting a new camera then. You know that's like asking for a gun that aims for you, right? This is the same reason why everyone's encouraged to take your camera off of Auto mode in the first place - because it's impossible for the camera to read your mind!

Maybe...my D700 may be getting a little long in the tooth, but I love its speed. However, I also wouldn't mind my next body having some nice video features (read 4k?) so I may wait again.

What I would love is for Nikon to make their evolutionary products similar enough so that I don't need to contunually buy additional accessories (grip for example).

For my shots though, I'd love the resolution bump.

I've seen lots of people complain about the D6xx and D8xx not being proper replacements for the D700. What is it that the new cameras lack that the D700 has? I have no experience with the D700, and I don't see anything by looking at the specs that stands out as a downgrade. I did just notice that the D700 was pretty fast with continuous burst with a grip, but truthfully I've never once used burst. Even when I shot the X-games, I used single shot and just tried to perfectly time and compose my shots.
 

ironmask

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Lol, so I guess you're never getting a new camera then. You know that's like asking for a gun that aims for you, right? This is the same reason why everyone's encouraged to take your camera off of Auto mode in the first place - because it's impossible for the camera to read your mind!

I shoot in manual mode-- always have, and here is your self aiming gun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBC8IFWC1P0


I'm no pro photographer, but I do ok-- I guess.

Here's my D7100's Bee sitting still for a focus stack mode:



and here's my Olympus P&S Booby pooping mode:



See? My expectations aren't that high after all.
 

Syborg1211

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I shoot in manual mode-- always have, and here is your self aiming gun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBC8IFWC1P0


I'm no pro photographer, but I do ok-- I guess.

Here's my D7100's Bee sitting still for a focus stack mode:



and here's my Olympus P&S Booby pooping mode:



See? My expectations aren't that high after all.

That gun still has to be told what to aim at. It can't read your mind either. My point still stands.

I don't really understand what your point is with that bird pooping photo. Also, the smaller sensor size in p&s's make depth of field so deep that autofocus isn't really ever an issue for them. The need for accurate autofocus only goes up as your sensor gets bigger and apertures wider.
 

ironmask

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That gun still has to be told what to aim at. It can't read your mind either. My point still stands.



I don't really understand what your point is with that bird pooping photo. Also, the smaller sensor size in p&s's make depth of field so deep that autofocus isn't really ever an issue for them. The need for accurate autofocus only goes up as your sensor gets bigger and apertures wider.


There wasn't a point. Lol
 

Railgun

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Lol, so I guess you're never getting a new camera then. You know that's like asking for a gun that aims for you, right? This is the same reason why everyone's encouraged to take your camera off of Auto mode in the first place - because it's impossible for the camera to read your mind!



I've seen lots of people complain about the D6xx and D8xx not being proper replacements for the D700. What is it that the new cameras lack that the D700 has? I have no experience with the D700, and I don't see anything by looking at the specs that stands out as a downgrade. I did just notice that the D700 was pretty fast with continuous burst with a grip, but truthfully I've never once used burst. Even when I shot the X-games, I used single shot and just tried to perfectly time and compose my shots.

Other than the obvious resolution bump, dunno really. Low light is naturally better IMHO due to larger pixel size. I've used burst plenty of times, but in raw, you only get about 15 shots before buffering is a problem, then you're at the mercy of your card. From there, you're only good for maybe 1fps as the card is written to. Partly limited by exspeed, partly card. I find myself doing mostly landscape/skyline/some architecture at this point so I'd welcome 36MP and no filter.

I don't think I'd get rid of it as a second body is a great to have if you're going to pack heavy. I hate changing lenses all the time.
 

Pneumothorax

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Lol, so I guess you're never getting a new camera then. You know that's like asking for a gun that aims for you, right? This is the same reason why everyone's encouraged to take your camera off of Auto mode in the first place - because it's impossible for the camera to read your mind!



I've seen lots of people complain about the D6xx and D8xx not being proper replacements for the D700. What is it that the new cameras lack that the D700 has? I have no experience with the D700, and I don't see anything by looking at the specs that stands out as a downgrade. I did just notice that the D700 was pretty fast with continuous burst with a grip, but truthfully I've never once used burst. Even when I shot the X-games, I used single shot and just tried to perfectly time and compose my shots.

Unfortunately when it comes to sports shooting for me (RC Helicopters and my 4 year old) it's 'Spray and Pray' in which my dearly departed D700 was much better than my D800. For portraiture and landscape, my D800 owns my prior camera so it was compromise. What us D700 and ex-users wanted all along was a D4 sensor in a D800 body with the fps of the D700. The Df was NOT that camera we wanted.
 

Railgun

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What us D700 and ex-users wanted all along was a D4 sensor in a D800 body with the fps of the D700. The Df was NOT that camera we wanted.

That's some serious throughput they need to move. I'd love 11fps, non capped at 36MP.
 

CuriousMike

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Why do DSLRs have such small buffers? RAM is pretty cheap... Throw a gig in there

That is assuming that the ram is external to the CPU. Building it into the CPU is less expensive but also harder to expand.

I'm with Throck - the D7100 throws out ~ 30MB 14bit nefs + 10MB JPGS = 40MB's per shot * 6 before hitting limiter = ~ 256MB of ram. This isn't the DOS era.
 

Railgun

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All you need to do is write to the card just a bit faster than the card can process whatever JPEG and flush the buffer and you're golden.

I use a 32GB SanDisk Extreme Pro card on the D700. It has a write speed of up to 150MB/s.

At 8fps with 20MB files (14 bit RAW+JPEG), that's 160MB of data per sec...and therein lies the problem. Of course, how fast the camera can actually write to the thing is another story.
 
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