Nissan GT-R

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: jcovercash

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: Aimster
SVT Cobra,

want to race my friend's 350Z or my other friend's Supra?

:laugh:

Why don't you ask him after you're old enough to get your driver license and can afford your own car and insurance.

I thought Aimster was 20-some years old?

I'm just a state away. Ill race either of them...Send them crying to their mom because their ricer got beat by a crappy Mustang


BTW a Supra is a dyno queen. Only car to make 1000+ hp and can't run any quicker than 11's.......




And as Naustica said, don't throw your friends into an E-race..... Don't be that friend that leans out the window taunting other drivers because you don't have a "race" car of your own......

The Supra is the only Japanese car I am scared of on the road. I can take a stock one easy but some of them floating around here can run in the 9's with some crazy set ups so I have to be on my game.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: mariok2006


I didn't say that, I said it has a ton of grip.

Oh ok, sorry for the confusion.

No problem, I meant it in the sense of stability and acceleration.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
The Supra is the only Japanese car I am scared of on the road. I can take a stock one easy but some of them floating around here can run in the 9's with some crazy set ups so I have to be on my game.

Oh, do you happen to run into lots of GT-R's on the road? I know they're so common because Nissan sold them here... oh wait, that's right, they didn't. Motorex also went out of business years ago for being deceiving with their safety reports (they only wrecked the R33 and claimed it sufficed in testing the R32 and the R34, which it did not).

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
The Supra is the only Japanese car I am scared of on the road. I can take a stock one easy but some of them floating around here can run in the 9's with some crazy set ups so I have to be on my game.

Oh, do you happen to run into lots of GT-R's on the road? I know they're so common because Nissan sold them here... oh wait, that's right, they didn't. Motorex also went out of business years ago for being deceiving with their safety reports (they only wrecked the R33 and claimed it sufficed in testing the R32 and the R34, which it did not).

Well yea stock ones arnt even that crazy fast.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
The Supra is the only Japanese car I am scared of on the road. I can take a stock one easy but some of them floating around here can run in the 9's with some crazy set ups so I have to be on my game.

Oh, do you happen to run into lots of GT-R's on the road? I know they're so common because Nissan sold them here... oh wait, that's right, they didn't. Motorex also went out of business years ago for being deceiving with their safety reports (they only wrecked the R33 and claimed it sufficed in testing the R32 and the R34, which it did not).

Well yea stock ones arnt even that crazy fast.

That has more to do with the 280PS limit Japan has than their capabilities.

Almost all the high-end Japanese cars respond well to simply chip changes.

There is a few videos of GT-R's beating streetbikes and still looking and running like a stock version of themselves.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Tennoh
Question I have is how well does the Vette fair against the current generation 911 Turbo? Based on that I believe you'll have a good understanding of how well the GT-R will do. All through development of the GT-R, they have been race tuning it against a 911 Turbo.

The Porsche guys have to do alot to beat the Z06.

You can read about it on Rennlist.org.

The Z06 is a monster on the track.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
That has more to do with the 280PS limit Japan has than their capabilities.

Almost all the high-end Japanese cars respond well to simply chip changes.

There is a few videos of GT-R's beating streetbikes and still looking and running like a stock version of themselves.

It's also known that some of the cars did not actually put out that much power as they actually put out over 280. Also, the 280 limit hasn't been in effect for awhile as it was only an agreement (by the auto manufacturers) to stifle insane "chip wars"-esque (i.e. the hertz war) situations.

EDIT: Err I meant over not about.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Either way who wants to spend over 20k for a ricer?

We got your domestic-built fanboism, now grow up. How the HELL is a Nissan GT-R, a much more respected automotive icon than the mid-life crisis Corvette or your retarded Mustang, ricer?

"OMG, it says "Nissan," must be ricer! I can't stand anything being a better car than my crappy Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily)!"

The GT-R is a great car, but you lose all credibility when you say it's a bigger icon than the Corvette or Mustang.

Seriously? LOL

he said respected, not an icon.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

3. The RB26 is rev-happy, but it doesn't have a great torque curve since you only had 2.6 liters spooling up the turbos. Since people went for big power, many were just dyno queens, producing a lot of peak power but a poor powerband.

The stock RB26DETT has a fairly broad powerband, but it's not a rocket.

Most go to a single turbo as well.

Almost always when you are going for big power you give up a lot down low.

You can build a lot of torque from the RB25 or RB26.

This is one of the things they are well known for, along with great reliablity and long life even when putting out multiples of it's stock power with the RB26 and it's internal bracing.

There are quite a few 1000HP+ GT-R's out there in the rest of the world.

The GT-R is not a king of all feats though.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

It's also known that some of the cars did not actually put out that much power as they actually put out over 280. Also, the 280 limit hasn't been in effect for awhile as it was only an agreement (by the auto manufacturers) to stifle insane "chip wars"-esque (i.e. the hertz war) situations.

EDIT: Err I meant over not about.

You just answered what I stated. I never said that the 280PS limit was a hard limit...

We are talking the R32-34 series of skylines though, those fell under that 280PS limit for advertising.

The real output for the R34 I believe was around 300-310PS on average.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

3. The RB26 is rev-happy, but it doesn't have a great torque curve since you only had 2.6 liters spooling up the turbos. Since people went for big power, many were just dyno queens, producing a lot of peak power but a poor powerband.

The stock RB26DETT has a fairly broad powerband, but it's not a rocket.

Most go to a single turbo as well.

Almost always when you are going for big power you give up a lot down low.

You can build a lot of torque from the RB25 or RB26.

This is one of the things they are well known for, along with great reliablity and long life even when putting out multiples of it's stock power with the RB26 and it's internal bracing.

There are quite a few 1000HP+ GT-R's out there in the rest of the world.

The GT-R is not a king of all feats though.

yep, we have more than a few here in Australia, thanks to the local release of the R32 and R33, as well as the development of the R32 during the International Group A touring car days (which resulted in it being banned from competition in Australia...not for safety reasons as one might think).

We have a few companies that have specialised in producing big horse power RB series engines for the street (Nizpro comes to mind here with their big horse power RB30ET - R31 Skyline and GMH VL Commodore setup's).

It's not uncommon to see RB25DET, RB26DETT or RB30ET powered VL Commodore's here in Australia sporting close to or better than 1000hp and being totally streetable (and registered) ,however emission compliance is very questionable but hey who cares when you have that much grunt.

 

[Aimster]

bleh. I wasn't trying to start anything. I just mentioned those two cars (350z and Supra) because they are the fastest in their group. The group has Z06s, Cobras, and a few other imports.
The fastest in the group is the 350z which is running around 650 to the wheels. The supra is around 500ish, but supposedly can be up to 650 with racing gas (100-150HP increase??? that's what they say).

To be fair to the domestic lovers.. when both of those drivers go out they search for domestics or bikes. None of the imports in this area can touch them, well from what I've seen. The z06 in the group I believe is putting in a turbo and the driver of the Z said it should be close or faster than his car.

from what I've learned from "tagging" along.. you can make domestics really fast. You can make imports really fast too , but it'll cost you more.

 

[Dudewithoutapet]

 

[Hammerhead]

Leave the Z06 for the old farts going through mid-life crisis.
I'll take the GT-R any day over the Z06

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Stumps
yep, we have more than a few here in Australia, thanks to the local release of the R32 and R33, as well as the development of the R32 during the International Group A touring car days (which resulted in it being banned from competition in Australia...not for safety reasons as one might think).

We have a few companies that have specialised in producing big horse power RB series engines for the street (Nizpro comes to mind here with their big horse power RB30ET - R31 Skyline and GMH VL Commodore setup's).

It's not uncommon to see RB25DET, RB26DETT or RB30ET powered VL Commodore's here in Australia sporting close to or better than 1000hp and being totally streetable (and registered) ,however emission compliance is very questionable but hey who cares when you have that much grunt.

Emissions was one of the RB's weak points and another reason Nissan switched directions on engine development.

I can easily fit any of the RB's into my 240sx here, but like the SR engine...my car is now federal illegal whether or not we have inspections here.

With owning a home, I don't want the possible fine, vehicle impoundment and smog lien placed on my house but would love even a RB25DET under the hood.

Also if anyone has missed it, Full Race found a way to put the whole GT-R drivetrain into a 240SX....AWD and all: here

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Either way who wants to spend over 20k for a ricer?

We got your domestic-built fanboism, now grow up. How the HELL is a Nissan GT-R, a much more respected automotive icon than the mid-life crisis Corvette or your retarded Mustang, ricer?

"OMG, it says "Nissan," must be ricer! I can't stand anything being a better car than my crappy Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily)!"

The GT-R is a great car, but you lose all credibility when you say it's a bigger icon than the Corvette or Mustang.

Seriously? LOL

he said respected, not an icon.

He says the GT-R is a "much more respected automotive icon" than Mustang or Corvette. That's absolutely ridiculous and deserves a big huge "LOL". Maybe even a "ROTFLMAO".

 

[Hammerhead]

The first time i heard about the skyline was when I played the first Gran Turismo on the Playstation. I wouldn't consider it a bigger icon than corvette or mustang...atleast not in the U.S., but if given the choice I would pick the Skyline in a heartbeat.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DougK62
He says the GT-R is a "much more respected automotive icon" than Mustang or Corvette. That's absolutely ridiculous and deserves a big huge "LOL". Maybe even a "ROTFLMAO".

As an icon, the mustang and corvette have more followers, but even they have more respect for the GT-R if they understand it. As idiots that just follow a name brand then no...they will say Mustang>>>>>>>>* Corvette>>>>>>>>>>>>*.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: Eli
Where is SVT Cobra?

I want to hear him talk about how 480HP isn't fast and that it's just a Nissan.

I kid, I kid.

480hp is still an econobox!!

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Leave the Z06 for the old farts going through mid-life crisis.
I'll take the GT-R any day over the Z06

hmmmm supercar = midlife crisis?

does not compute

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Leave the Z06 for the old farts going through mid-life crisis.
I'll take the GT-R any day over the Z06

hmmmm supercar = midlife crisis?

does not compute

A Z06 is not a supercar. It's a higher end sportscar.

A lot of midlifers buy the vette, porsche, ferrari, etc thinking it's going to make them young again or because they never could previously.

Fact is a hot car can get you alot of hot women even if you are a fat old man. They will use you to be seen and profit when the older guy buys them nice clothes/jewelry/tuition, but they are also usually putting out...it's a win-win really. No one is usually looking for a relationship out of it.

 

[dds14u]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: mariok2006

If this is true, it might very well give the Z06 a run for the bang for buck sector, while sporting a decent interior.

it will give the Z06 a run for a money, but a nissan with a decent interior? HAHAHAHAHA. you kill me.

Have you been in any Nissan Maxima...maybe Murano??

 

[RossGr]

60k for a Datsun??

 

[fisheerman]

Originally posted by: RossGr
60k for a Datsun??

I just bought this new GTR for 24 bucks and it is smoking

skyline GTR

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Leave the Z06 for the old farts going through mid-life crisis.
I'll take the GT-R any day over the Z06

hmmmm supercar = midlife crisis?

does not compute

A Z06 is not a supercar. It's a higher end sportscar.

A lot of midlifers buy the vette, porsche, ferrari, etc thinking it's going to make them young again or because they never could previously.

Fact is a hot car can get you alot of hot women even if you are a fat old man. They will use you to be seen and profit when the older guy buys them nice clothes/jewelry/tuition, but they are also usually putting out...it's a win-win really. No one is usually looking for a relationship out of it.

it's not priced as a supercar, but it performs as one.