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Ronstang

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Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.
 

imported_Zeke

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.
Every generation says this.
 

doze

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It's about time. I can't stand it while parents sit there or stand around and ignore their yelling screaming kid running around in circles.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Zeke
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.
Every generation says this.


Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Zeke
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.
Every generation says this.
And every generation is right.

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:
I actually fear having kids. I can just see my kid telling a teacher or someone that I spanked him and then I'd end up going to jail because of all the effeminate people who are making those stupid laws now.

ZV
 

daveymark

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this is why we need less procreation. The DINKs and nonbreeders know their limits, they know they'd be crappy parents so they choose not to have kids.
 

Iron Woode

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by 5 years of age, kids should know how to behave in certain situations and if not, then they should atleast be able to obey their parent's instructions.

raising your kids means instilling some form of selfcontrol. Instead, far too many parents start listening to "experts"; the vast majority of whom don't even have kids. This results in kids that are allowed to do whatever they want.

Its time parents started acting like parents. Children need a firm, guiding hand. They need to know that their parents are incharge.
 

imported_Zeke

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Zeke
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.
Every generation says this.


Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:
So...you are making a sweeping generalizations about all parents in a gneration because you've seen some kids acting badly? If that kid was really drugged he wouldn't have been acting that way. I agree parents need to be more responsible and take a greater role in disciplining their kids, however making references to the good old days is a reflex action every generation takes as it ages. Just my opinion.
 

BlancoNino

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No no they should legislate it! It's noise pollution and assault on the customers and employees! 1st hand decibal breeching is a serious harm to us, and we all must vote on a loudness ban in public businesses! Yelling should be against the law, because I said so and I want everything to be convenient for me when I shop at private businesses.

/sarcasm.
 
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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Zeke
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.
Every generation says this.


Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:

Adults who were overly disciplined as children often display a lack of emotional control as well as the tendency to make sweeping generalizations based on their own stilted perceptions.


 

imported_Tick

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:
I actually fear having kids. I can just see my kid telling a teacher or someone that I spanked him and then I'd end up going to jail because of all the effeminate people who are making those stupid laws now.

ZV

Sufficiently skilled parenting produces quality individuals without spanking.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Zeke
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.
Every generation says this.
And every generation is right.

ZV

indeed.
every generation says it because every generation realizes they are worse then the generation before them, which basically says with each generation we keep getting worse and worse.

kids are way too loud.
i mean, it isn't common for parents to take their toddlers (in strollers no less, or something similar) to a movie (like a horror movie recently.. great parenting skills there).. wth! i would complain like crazy if that kid started screaming, which with the loud speakers in a theater, with a horror movie.. yea that kid probably cried. sigh... what can you do though.
this is a start. might help the parent wake up and realize their kid is a brat.
 

imported_Zeke

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Originally posted by: Tick
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:
I actually fear having kids. I can just see my kid telling a teacher or someone that I spanked him and then I'd end up going to jail because of all the effeminate people who are making those stupid laws now.

ZV

Sufficiently skilled parenting produces quality individuals without spanking.

Its alot like proper dog training
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Zeke
So...you are making a sweeping generalizations about all parents in a gneration because you've seen some kids acting badly? If that kid was really drugged he wouldn't have been acting that way. I agree parents need to be more responsible and take a greater role in disciplining their kids, however making references to the good old days is a reflex action every generation takes as it ages. Just my opinion.

I am not making sweeping generalizations from a single event. I am 43 years old. I see kids EVERY day that act like little brats. They are everywhere you go and along with them are their lazy non-disciplining parents. Tonight was an example only. This has nothing to do with the "good old days". This has to do with poeple being to damned lazy to live up to their responsibilities and society's degradation to the point that it does not hold anyone to any standards anymore. I am not whining. I have witnessed the decay of society my entire life. It has been worse over the last 15 years. Hell, you can't even get kids to move out of the street anymore when you are in your car....they expect you to go around them.
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Zeke
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.
Every generation says this.


Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:

Adults who were overly disciplined as children often display a lack of emotional control as well as the tendency to make sweeping generalizations based on their own stilted perceptions.
:roll:
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Adults who were overly disciplined as children often display a lack of emotional control as well as the tendency to make sweeping generalizations based on their own stilted perceptions.

whatever you say Einstein.....I was not overly disciplined as a child I was simply brought up in a time when standards of behavior still applied. I had more freedom than anyone I knew because I could be trusted and earned it. Please drive through.

 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Zeke
So...you are making a sweeping generalizations about all parents in a gneration because you've seen some kids acting badly? If that kid was really drugged he wouldn't have been acting that way. I agree parents need to be more responsible and take a greater role in disciplining their kids, however making references to the good old days is a reflex action every generation takes as it ages. Just my opinion.

I am not making sweeping generalizations from a single event. I am 43 years old. I see kids EVERY day that act like little brats. They are everywhere you go and along with them are their lazy non-disciplining parents. Tonight was an example only. This has nothing to do with the "good old days". This has to do with poeple being to damned lazy to live up to their responsibilities and society's degradation to the point that it does not hold anyone to any standards anymore. I am not whining. I have witnessed the decay of society my entire life. It has been worse over the last 15 years. Hell, you can't even get kids to move out of the street anymore when you are in your car....they expect you to go around them.

QFT Ronstang! I may have had the last generation of parents (they are 45 and 51) that still cared about proper manners in public. If I even fidgeted in my seat, I was told to stop. If I persisted, I'd be scolded and possibly taken to the car and spanked. I work at a pizza place, and yes, there video games so there will be kids walking back and forth, but they often bump into people's tables, touch people's shoulders, yell across the restaurant...etc...and the parents don't even say anything.

Oh and by the way, when our party room is rented out, it's not uncommon to see dirty diapers on the floor either (and I"m not just talking about #1). I see them at the parks too under the picnic tables. Just more proof of lazy parenting.
 

imported_Zeke

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Zeke
So...you are making a sweeping generalizations about all parents in a gneration because you've seen some kids acting badly? If that kid was really drugged he wouldn't have been acting that way. I agree parents need to be more responsible and take a greater role in disciplining their kids, however making references to the good old days is a reflex action every generation takes as it ages. Just my opinion.

I am not making sweeping generalizations from a single event. I am 43 years old. I see kids EVERY day that act like little brats. They are everywhere you go and along with them are their lazy non-disciplining parents. Tonight was an example only. This has nothing to do with the "good old days". This has to do with poeple being to damned lazy to live up to their responsibilities and society's degradation to the point that it does not hold anyone to any standards anymore. I am not whining. I have witnessed the decay of society my entire life. It has been worse over the last 15 years. Hell, you can't even get kids to move out of the street anymore when you are in your car....they expect you to go around them.

I have much less of a problem when you put it this way. However where I live I havent noticed chidren behaving bady as a rule. I just spent 3 years living a block down the street from a major middle school. They most certainly get out of the way of cars. No one on this forum has anything other than anecdotal evidence to support their point of view on this. I agree that there is alot of bad parenting out there. I was raised in an area with heavy alcholism rates, now that makes for bad parents. Are parents getting worse? maybe a little, but there a plenty of people who try to raise their kids right.
 
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