No brats allowed

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Adults who were overly disciplined as children often display a lack of emotional control as well as the tendency to make sweeping generalizations based on their own stilted perceptions.

whatever you say Einstein.....I was not overly disciplined as a child I was simply brought up in a time when standards of behavior still applied. I had more freedom than anyone I knew because I could be trusted and earned it. Please drive through.

LOL now parents give their kids cell phones with trackers on it because...

1)Their kids rack a-disciprine!
2)They want them out of the house.
3)They are still legall responsible for them.

 

[buzzsaw13]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Zeke

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.

Every generation says this.

Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:

I remember whenever I acted up as a kid my parents would beat the crap out of me. Eventually you learn, behave yourself and you won't get an ass kicking.

And I really hate a lot of parents I know simply blame their kids problem on ADHD. I used to live with this one guy that said he had ADHD and he couldn't focus on anything without his medication, and that was to blame for his horrible grades. He says when he's in class he can't focus, but the next day he can game and watch Star Trek for 12 hours straight :disgust:

 

[imported_Zeke]

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Zeke

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.

Every generation says this.

Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:

I remember whenever I acted up as a kid my parents would beat the crap out of me. Eventually you learn, behave yourself and you won't get an ass kicking.

And I really hate a lot of parents I know simply blame their kids problem on ADHD. I used to live with this one guy that said he had ADHD and he couldn't focus on anything without his medication, and that was to blame for his horrible grades. He says when he's in class he can't focus, but the next day he can game and watch Star Trek for 12 hours straight :disgust:

Confusing stupid with ADHD is a pet peeve of mine. Most people are stupid, kids extra so

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
And I really hate a lot of parents I know simply blame their kids problem on ADHD. I used to live with this one guy that said he had ADHD and he couldn't focus on anything without his medication, and that was to blame for his horrible grades. He says when he's in class he can't focus, but the next day he can game and watch Star Trek for 12 hours straight :disgust:

What? You mean kids don't like to pay attention in school? Maybe if they brought by the paddle....

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Adults who were overly disciplined as children often display a lack of emotional control as well as the tendency to make sweeping generalizations based on their own stilted perceptions.

whatever you say Einstein.....I was not overly disciplined as a child I was simply brought up in a time when standards of behavior still applied. I had more freedom than anyone I knew because I could be trusted and earned it. Please drive through.

hahah it was joke (granted at your expense), but you were too pissed off at society to see it.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Zeke

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.

Every generation says this.

Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:

It was a baseball game not an opera. If you had that big of an issue you should have asked his parents to control the child or change his seat so as to not obstruct your view.

As for me, any chain restaurant is open game for me and my 2 infants. Unless my dinner is over $50/person I am talking my kids because I don't care what some uptight geezer considers rude, and I don't want to eat at home all the time.

Besides I can't simulate the same environment to teach my kids how to behave in a public place so we use live places. If you notice kids will often act in accord to their surroundings.

 

[JM Aggie08]

i wish Bill Miller's would do that :'(. little sh!ts leave a mess.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: Savarak
good.

 

[Pocahontas]

I have worked in bars/restaurants for many years...this is what I learned last week via a customer..

Where I work now a a upscale touristry restaurant on the channel to Lake Michigan overlooking the marina, both indoor and outdoor seating, dinners range from$10-20, that said..Most clients are boaters, business mand and women and other well to do people. We do get kids in and most are not well behaved.

I overheard a customer tell her elder relative that they bring the kids to our restaurant because "its loud" anyways so no one notices her unruly kids.. I think parents have decided if the place in question is already loud, kids can scream, shout, run and be bratty. Meanwhile they enjoys cocktails while I manuever trays of hot food above and around ill-behaved heathens.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Zeke

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.

Every generation says this.

No, there actually is a huge difference today. And I'm old enough to notice it.

Many reasons why:

*More single parent families or both parents working
*Parents take kids to more inappropriate places
*The sense of entitlement many parents feel
*A break down in common manners
* More kids being raised in day care, rather than by an attentive parent.
*A move in the last 20 years to make everything "family oriented." (Which ruined Las Vegas, BTW)

30 years ago you would almost NEVER see a parent treat a nice restaurant like a Chuck E. Cheese. Now it's common. Parents seem to feel that they are not only entitled to take their kids anywhere, but that it's perfectly OK to allow the kids to run around with abandon and bug the crap out of everyone.

That was RARE years ago, and is very common today.

 

[Kelemvor]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
haha, i thought this was about tailgating.

:beer:

I did too at first. Can ya tell we're both from WI?

But as to the actual story, Good! If the parents can't control their kids then they shouldn't be allowed to take them somewhere that their own incompetence can ruin other people's time as well.

 

[DaiShan]

Good. When I was a kid you can be damn sure that my parents wouldn't put up with me running around the store like a maniac. Everyone acts like kids are supposed to just do and get what they want and there is nothing that can be done about it as "kids will be kids." This wouldn't be the case if they would spend some time actually parenting rather than giving in to their child's every whim

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
haha, i thought this was about tailgating.

:beer:

I did too at first. Can ya tell we're both from WI?

But as to the actual story, Good! If the parents can't control their kids then they shouldn't be allowed to take them somewhere that their own incompetence can ruin other people's time as well.

I was going to say...if they don't allow the traditional Friday brat fry, there is going to be a civil war here.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Zeke

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Zeke

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.

Every generation says this.

Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:

So...you are making a sweeping generalizations about all parents in a gneration because you've seen some kids acting badly? If that kid was really drugged he wouldn't have been acting that way. I agree parents need to be more responsible and take a greater role in disciplining their kids, however making references to the good old days is a reflex action every generation takes as it ages. Just my opinion.

LOL. Refer to DaveMark's post.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Zeke

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.

Every generation says this.

Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:

I remember whenever I acted up as a kid my parents would beat the crap out of me. Eventually you learn, behave yourself and you won't get an ass kicking.

And I really hate a lot of parents I know simply blame their kids problem on ADHD. I used to live with this one guy that said he had ADHD and he couldn't focus on anything without his medication, and that was to blame for his horrible grades. He says when he's in class he can't focus, but the next day he can game and watch Star Trek for 12 hours straight :disgust:

I think I was spanked once, maybe twice that I can remember. It didn't take long to realize that wasn't something that I wanted to happen heh.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.

QFFT!

I have two young children (ages 2 and 3) and I'll admit it's a challenge to go out to eat. We only do it when the kids are in a good mood and if things start getting out of hand, we drop an iron fist. I've left a few restaurants mid-meal because I couldn't get my kids to settle down. I'd rather get it to-go than ruin everyone else meals, too.

I can't stand it when some kid is kicking up a storm in the middle of the grocery aisle, and the mother is just pretending like it's not happening. My sister in-law and her fsckhead husband do this. They're 3 year old son is a holy fscking terror, and it's because he always gets what he wants and is coddled like I've never seen. When they are physically unable to meet his demands, all hell breaks loose and they just tune it out.

I was just on vacation with these breadwinners for a week and IT SUCKED.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.

I agree 500%... timeouts and todays kinda gentler parenting does nothing but teach children they can get away with murder...

I'm personally sick to death over all the little brats runnign around and thier lack of manners and respect..

Misses the days of "a child should be seen but not heard"
under penalty of having to pick your own hickory switch to be spanked with..

 

[PingSpike]

Yeah, its pretty bad. I can't believe the article didn't mention the place where its the worst...the movie theatre. This is not your living room sh|t bags! There's other people here and they paid to watch the movie, not your little sh|ts kicking the seat.

 

[CKent]

Nice to see public sentiment flirting with common sense a little. Kids have gotten too unruly in recent years, as parents have grown an inflated sense of entitlement and foisted responsibility for the monsters onto society.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Zeke

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sad thing is that 20-30 years ago you would never have to say anything because parents actually parented. You know, back when parents taught their children how to act, taught them discipline, taught them consequences, and had actual expectations from their children. The world really is turning to crap.

Every generation says this.

Whatever....kids are worse today than imaginable and parents just don't put any effort into cotrolling them in public. Perfect example was tonight at the baseball game. The little brat right in front of me would not sit in his seat and would not shut the hell up. I kept having to shift in my seat to see the damn game. He was running around, jumping, making noise....and not once did his parents say anything to him or make any attempt to control him. I wanted to pick him up and throw his ass over the railing. This would not have happened 30 years ago. Parents still did their job back then instead of blaming all their kid's behavioral problems on ADHD and keeping their kids drugged up so they don't have to take any responsibility for how bad their children are turning out......remember....junior has a condition. :roll:

Agreed, fscking little bastards, kill them all! :laugh: no seriously though, parents have become increasingly irresponsible for their kids, is this due to the baby boomer generation? What has happened?

 

[Lola]

I am glad this is happening.
I see it all the time and it is one of my pet-peeves.
Just this past june, we were flying home to MI... As we were waiting in the airport, a kid was running around everywhere, screaming. The parents were not paying attention to the child at all, and because of this, the little one fell down on the cement. as we got on the plane, the parents and child were in the same row of seats as we were.

The WHOLE flight (~8 hours) the kid was SCREACHING and the parents ignored them. They put on the head phones and chose not to do anything with the screaming kid.
My husband and i both think the kid had a concussion from falling face first onto the cement, but the parents did not seem to care at all.

I see it at malls all the time... there are kids that are running wild and they run into me and fall down. where are the parents? oh... they came strolling up to the whining kid about 10 seconds later. Thats how far away the parent was to this 2 year old.

I could go on and on. :|

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: CKent
Kids have gotten too unruly in recent years, as parents have grown an inflated sense of entitlement and foisted responsibility for the monsters onto society.

And, in case we needed an example, we have a parent posting here who said it all "As for me, any chain restaurant is open game for me and my 2 infants. Unless my dinner is over $50/person I am talking my kids because I don't care what some uptight geezer considers rude, and I don't want to eat at home all the time."

Basically - I'm entitled and I don't care what others think of their behavior. Really sad.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Yeah, its pretty bad. I can't believe the article didn't mention the place where its the worst...the movie theatre. This is not your living room sh|t bags! There's other people here and they paid to watch the movie, not your little sh|ts kicking the seat.

Adults no longer know how to act properly in movie theaters. That is one of the main reasons I no longer go to see movies in the theater.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Zeke
So...you are making a sweeping generalizations about all parents in a gneration because you've seen some kids acting badly? If that kid was really drugged he wouldn't have been acting that way. I agree parents need to be more responsible and take a greater role in disciplining their kids, however making references to the good old days is a reflex action every generation takes as it ages. Just my opinion.

I am not making sweeping generalizations from a single event. I am 43 years old. I see kids EVERY day that act like little brats. They are everywhere you go and along with them are their lazy non-disciplining parents. Tonight was an example only. This has nothing to do with the "good old days". This has to do with poeple being to damned lazy to live up to their responsibilities and society's degradation to the point that it does not hold anyone to any standards anymore. I am not whining. I have witnessed the decay of society my entire life. It has been worse over the last 15 years. Hell, you can't even get kids to move out of the street anymore when you are in your car....they expect you to go around them.

QFT Ronstang! I may have had the last generation of parents (they are 45 and 51) that still cared about proper manners in public. If I even fidgeted in my seat, I was told to stop. If I persisted, I'd be scolded and possibly taken to the car and spanked. I work at a pizza place, and yes, there video games so there will be kids walking back and forth, but they often bump into people's tables, touch people's shoulders, yell across the restaurant...etc...and the parents don't even say anything.

Oh and by the way, when our party room is rented out, it's not uncommon to see dirty diapers on the floor either (and I"m not just talking about #1). I see them at the parks too under the picnic tables. Just more proof of lazy parenting.

Naw, what your parents or at least your dad should have done is instead of "spanking you" which IMO is still dumb, but guilt tripped you into not being a little brat "supposedly speaking", making the kid feel guilty for what their doing is seemingly the best way to stop them from doing something such as that, though that seems abnormal with the squirming..

 

[eLiu]

I would agree with this. I was an annoying little fvck as a child... that's for sure. And now, I definitely would never, ever want to see the toddler-me in a store.

Hell the other day I was on the commuter rail and these 2 mothers were traveling with like 6 elementary aged girls. OMFG they would not shut the hell up. Sitting there yelling and screaming like there's no tomorrow. People can talk on the train but there's nothing like that annoying, piercing screech.