No country for old men!

tvfreakazoid

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I just got done watching the movie. I heard from some people that they were confused by the ending. I have to admit I was confused by it as well. I did read some reviews about it and I got some of it, but I'm not 100% clear on it. Anyone care to explain?

I thought it was a good movie and I'm sure I would of liked it even more If I could of got the ending better.
 

SoulAssassin

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It's amazing that this movie has been out for so long and yet you're the first person to create a thread about it. Maybe if you searched there is a slim chance someone might have posted this already but I could be out of my mind.
 

DVad3r

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Air pressured device bad ass. I don't how he tracked the other guy so well though, that device diden't have a huge range.
 

Gooberlx2

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Well.....what was confusing to you OP?

Anton was a completely evil and soulless sonuvabitch who happened to be quite the effective assassin.

PS. If this thread is going to be a discussion about the ending, you should throw some "*spoilers*" up in the topic summary or title.
 

fire400

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I watched a part of the movie, seemed interesting, but nothing great, either.

So what was the ending??
 

Kaolccips

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Air pressured device bad ass. I don't how he tracked the other guy so well though, that device diden't have a huge range.

That was actually a device used to kill cows, also called a captive bolt pistol. For cows it uses a rod to "knock them in the head" and make them unconscious for processing. Though the way he had it rigged up, it would just bash a hole right through the head. The other thing he was shooting with was a shotgun with a silencer.

But yeah, this movie is DEFINITELY in my top 5 from now on. Aton, Javiar Bardems character in this movie, is one of the best bad guys I've seen in a movie in a lonnggg time. I love how he uses pure chance to pick his victims, like it's destiny and completely out of his hands. Really crazy. I don't know if it was because I was high at the time but after you see that he is a brutal killer, and he comes into that store talking to that old man. It's so f*cking tense and you can just feel how scared this old guy is that he is about to die because how the directing and their dialog. You get this great pictured panted of just how insane Aton is, and hes just a brutal fucking killer with no emotion for human life, and I love it. Also I think this movie has very good dialog, nothing is said unless it has a purpose really. I also hear that this was very well reproduced from the book and was barely altered, if at all.

Perfect movie. Anyone who hasn't watched it yet shouldn't most definitely watch it next chance they get. It's great.

Btw Watch out what you guys say on here, I don't want to spoil the movie for someone who hasn't seen it! Though if anyone on here hasn't seen it an is reading this, maybe you should just turn back now and come back after you've watched it just to be safe Cause this movie shouldn't be spoiled.
 

Baked

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Llewelyn was a dumbass. That's the whole point of the movie. If he had emptied the suit case when he got it home, he would've found the homing device, at which point he could've taken out the batteries, then he would move to California and bought a house around Manhattan Beach and check out hot MILFs and coeds on the back porch of his beach house every day.
 

antyler

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Air pressured device bad ass. I don't how he tracked the other guy so well though, that device diden't have a huge range.

There was a tracking beacon in the money briefcase i believe.
 

tvfreakazoid

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
It's amazing that this movie has been out for so long and yet you're the first person to create a thread about it. Maybe if you searched there is a slim chance someone might have posted this already but I could be out of my mind.

I did search for it. Didn't find it.
 

Kaolccips

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I watched it on quicksilverscreen I think. Not sure, but I watched it online so its on here.
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: antyler
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Air pressured device bad ass. I don't how he tracked the other guy so well though, that device diden't have a huge range.

There was a tracking beacon in the money briefcase i believe.

But, he had found it and removed it long before he was killed.


I'm sorry, but I found this movie to be lacking on a few levels. Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie, but it could have been better.

 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
This movie was the most boring, overrated piece of garbage I've seen in a while.

:thumbsup:

I couldn't stand it and by the time the ending came around I was like that is it? It had nothing going for it. This is why I never go by ratings. I expected this though so not in the least bit surprised.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: antyler
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Air pressured device bad ass. I don't how he tracked the other guy so well though, that device diden't have a huge range.

There was a tracking beacon in the money briefcase i believe.

But, he had found it and removed it long before he was killed.


I'm sorry, but I found this movie to be lacking on a few levels. Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie, but it could have been better.

I found the move lacking on several levels as well. I thought it was ok but that is about it.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: antyler
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Air pressured device bad ass. I don't how he tracked the other guy so well though, that device diden't have a huge range.

There was a tracking beacon in the money briefcase i believe.
Did you miss the part where he said the device didn't have a huge range? That was the biggest hole in the film for me. Well that & the ending. The ending totally destroys what could have been a great film.

 
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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: antyler
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Air pressured device bad ass. I don't how he tracked the other guy so well though, that device diden't have a huge range.

There was a tracking beacon in the money briefcase i believe.
Did you miss the part where he said the device didn't have a huge range? That was the biggest hole in the film for me. Well that & the ending. The ending totally destroys what could have been a great film.

I can't remember exacgtly, but they had some idea of where he was headed, that's why they were driving along looking for the tracking signal. They didn't get the signal until they were close to him.
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
This movie was the most boring, overrated piece of garbage I've seen in a while.

So what was your personal favorite movie of 2007?
 

kindest

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"NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN is an ALLEGORY.

The title is from the first line of Sailing to Byzantium by William Butler Yeats, a poet classically trained and considered by many to be the greatest 20th Century poet.

Death is Anton Chigurh. His hair style (hood-ish, shroud-ish) and black clothing suggest Death. Death kills the innocent as well as the guilty and has his own set of rules. When the witness to the high-rise killing asks, ?Are you going to kill me?? Death answers, ?It depends. Do you see me?? When the kids on the bicycles help him after the car accident he tells them, ?You didn?t see me.? If you see Death, you die; if not, you may live. Chigurh seems to come and go at will and seems to know where Moss is without trying very hard. His rules are his rules and they seem arbitrary and random. He is referred to by the sheriff as a ?ghost? and he seems to be able to go wherever he pleases.

Death kills with a cattle stun gun, almost like a member of the clergy administering a cross to the forehead of a parishoner. Death is often portrayed as a hooded figure with a scythe; in this case he?s a ?hooded? figure with a cattle stun gun.

Man is Llewellen Moss, part sinner, part saint. He is offered a deal with Death when Death offers to ignore his wife but take him. Instead, Llewellen challenges Death and chooses declines the offer. This is straight Faustian bargaining. By declining Death?s ?This is the best deal you?re gonna get? Moss signs not only his own death warrant but his wife?s, too.

Llewellen challenges Death to a showdown and when his wife tells the sheriff, ?He won?t quit, neither. Never has.? the audience expects a later showdown because we?ve been trained to see the protagonist take on the antagonist at the climax of a story ? but before that can happen life?s randomness gets in the way and the Mexicans kill him. This is the major turn in the movie and the one that takes the sail out of the audience, which has been cheering for Man in his struggle against Death without realizing it.

Free Will is Carla Jean. She chooses at the end of the film not to allow Death to be random. She has a 50% chance of saving herself but chooses not to avail herself of the opportunity. She is the bravest of the lot, choosing to die by her own decision and not the randomness of Death.

The sheriff is the philosopher trying to understand the universe. He cannot and is defeated by Death in his attempt. At the movie?s end the Sheriff bemoans the fact that God never entered his life. One of God?s creatures, Death, was in the Sheriff?s life but he didn?t realize it (see ?Scene with Sheriff? below). The story is the Sheriff?s, his quest to understand Life, and the dream he tells at the end of the movie explains that his own father, long dead, has gone before him into the darkness of death and awaits him.

Interesting parallel ? Moss pays money for a coat as he crosses into Mexico; Chigurh pays the kids money for a shirt after his accident. What is meant by that? Cannot be a coincidence.

Chigurh walking away from the accident at the end shows that Death cannot be stopped. It will always walk the streets. It is a part of our existence forever.

Scene with the Sheriff and Death at the same hotel room at the same time but the Sheriff does not see Death. This scene is vital ? it solidifies the allegory. The Sheriff enters the room but does not see Death and so he does not die. Death sees the sheriff but chooses not to kill him because he?s not seen in return. This scene is the ?supernatural? scene which signals that we?ve watching an allegory, that what we?ve been watching is more than it appears.

 

Gibsons

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I'm still trying to figure out the part in the high rise

__Spoilers___


When Carson Wells (Woody Harrelson) is leaving the high rise after agreeing to track down Chigurh, he says something about counting the number of floors that the elevator went by and a floor being missing (maybe the 13th?). In the book, it states that they're on the 17th floor.

Later, Chigurh shows up, evidently easily bypassing all the security setups (IIRC the elevator required a passcode from the exec in order to work). Chigurh took the steps though, but I can't remember if the movie showed this. There's some connection I'm missing here.
 
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