No More Bags On Trains..

[IGBT]

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Prohibiting or searching bags might not prevent someone from strapping explosives to their body, but if police officers or security guards are checking what people are carrying, they're much more likely to notice someone wearing a bomb vest or belt.

It?s awful that a small group of radical scumbags could force these kinds of costly changes, but at this point it seems irresponsible not to react with measures that would realistically prevent, or greatly reduce, the risk of future attacks. Of course, to be protected as strongly as possible, these precautions may have to be extended to restaurants, movie theatres, shopping malls, and anywhere else crowds gather. It's already happening in Israel. Soon, it could be the norm worldwide.

 

[91TTZ]

Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

 

[brigden]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Pretty much.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Reality is that Muslim doesn't teach this hatred that terrorists are spreading.

Reality is that the terrorists are extreme fanaticals hiding behind the guise of religion when they have nothing to do with it.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Uh, weren't the bombers from a few weeks ago native Brits? I believe they were.

You can search bags or whatever you'd like. Fact is, if they want to blow up trains, they can do it with or without your searching. I can make a bomb that will fit in my pocket and blow up an entire train car, no sweat, with stuff I pick up at WalMart. I'm sick of these 'additional security measures' that just try to make people feel safer when they really do nothing to make you safer.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: IGBT
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Prohibiting or searching bags might not prevent someone from strapping explosives to their body, but if police officers or security guards are checking what people are carrying, they're much more likely to notice someone wearing a bomb vest or belt.

It?s awful that a small group of radical scumbags could force these kinds of costly changes, but at this point it seems irresponsible not to react with measures that would realistically prevent, or greatly reduce, the risk of future attacks. Of course, to be protected as strongly as possible, these precautions may have to be extended to restaurants, movie theatres, shopping malls, and anywhere else crowds gather. It's already happening in Israel. Soon, it could be the norm worldwide.

they need a system similiar to what is in place at airports. go through a metal detector, put your bags on a conveyor belt to get xrayed, and then you can go on the bus.
pita, but needed.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

it would be really funny if you were japanese...

 

[Patt]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Get a fvcking grip. I hope you're being sarcastic, because if you're not, all I can say is that I feel sorry for you. :|

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Unabomber?
Timothy McVeigh?

Or are they not a part of "reality"?

 

[Sukhoi]

There is absolutely no way any subway system could function with either no bags allowed, or searching every bag. Do you have any idea how many 3,000,000 people a day taking the Tube system is? It would be impossible to search the bags, and you can't exactly tell a bunch of businessmen not to take any baggage with them. Nobody would use the system, and they HAVE to use it over there.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

You start thinking that way and they'll just employ some other ethnicities to carry out their "missions". What are ya gonna do ?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Reality is that Muslim doesn't teach this hatred that terrorists are spreading.

Reality is that the terrorists are extreme fanaticals hiding behind the guise of religion when they have nothing to do with it.

True, but they are hiding under a particular religion, and are largely leveraging their propoganda to a particular ethinic group. The unfortunate truth is they aren't hiding behind religion, they're hiding behind Islam, and they're primarily recruiting (not wholly, but the vast majority) muslims of middle eastern descent.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
they need a system similiar to what is in place at airports. go through a metal detector, put your bags on a conveyor belt to get xrayed, and then you can go on the bus.
pita, but needed.

If the bus system is anything like it is here, then there is a stop every few blocks. Buying that many metal detectors/x-ray machines and staffing them is simply not feasible. Add in the many materials that are undetectable using these screening methods and you've just thrown a lot of money at the problem for no results.

 

[cirrhosis]

Darn...
This would mean I can't carry my Bunny suit around to furfests.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Sukhoi
There is absolutely no way any subway system could function with either no bags allowed, or searching every bag. Do you have any idea how many 3,000,000 people a day taking the Tube system is? It would be impossible to search the bags, and you can't exactly tell a bunch of businessmen not to take any baggage with them. Nobody would use the system, and they HAVE to use it over there.

Total Recall xray system comes to mind. Costly I'm sure. Heh, is it even technically possible ?

 

[IGBT]

..as long as we tolerate the pink elephant (political correctness) expect US airport type shake down's of cripples in wheelchairs and people on crutches while high profile suspects walk thru unchallenged.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: cirrhosis
Darn...
This would mean I can't carry my Bunny suit around to furfests.

WTF?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: moshquerade
they need a system similiar to what is in place at airports. go through a metal detector, put your bags on a conveyor belt to get xrayed, and then you can go on the bus.
pita, but needed.

If the bus system is anything like it is here, then there is a stop every few blocks. Buying that many metal detectors/x-ray machines and staffing them is simply not feasible. Add in the many materials that are undetectable using these screening methods and you've just thrown a lot of money at the problem for no results.

you say it's not feasible but something has to be done.

 

[brigden]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Unabomber?
Timothy McVeigh?

Or are they not a part of "reality"?

Let's say, for the sake of the argument, that after the World Trade Center bombings, you kick all Middle Eastern Muslims out of the US and close the boarders. How many lives would you have saved?

 

[isasir]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Others gave their views on this, but how about this realistic situation - I speak perfect English, was born in the US, am not Muslim, am not from the Middle East, heck, not even from South Asia, but I have brown skin. How would someone distinguish me from a Muslim?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Others gave their views on this, but how about this realistic situation - I speak perfect English, was born in the US, am not Muslim, am not from the Middle East, heck, not even from South Asia, but I have brown skin. How would someone distinguish me from a Muslim?

Free ham sandwiches at the gates to subway stations? Anyone not wearing a yarmulke must eat or leave?

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: moshquerade
they need a system similiar to what is in place at airports. go through a metal detector, put your bags on a conveyor belt to get xrayed, and then you can go on the bus.
pita, but needed.

If the bus system is anything like it is here, then there is a stop every few blocks. Buying that many metal detectors/x-ray machines and staffing them is simply not feasible. Add in the many materials that are undetectable using these screening methods and you've just thrown a lot of money at the problem for no results.

you say it's not feasible but something has to be done.

Why?

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Others gave their views on this, but how about this realistic situation - I speak perfect English, was born in the US, am not Muslim, am not from the Middle East, heck, not even from South Asia, but I have brown skin. How would someone distinguish me from a Muslim?

"STFU, you're an a-rab, get the f#!) off our train, you're going to jail." that's how i'm guessing you would be distinguished unfortunatley.

 

[Patt]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Unabomber?
Timothy McVeigh?

Or are they not a part of "reality"?

Let's say, for the sake of the argument, that after the World Trade Center bombings, you kick all Middle Eastern Muslims out of the US and close the boarders. How many lives would you have saved?

None. Why not remove all the white people after Timothy McVeigh, Jeffry Dahlmer, Ted Bundy etc. too. I can't believe the ignorance some people in this thread are displaying. I agree with tightened security measures, but they must be for everyone, not just people that 'look a certain way'. :|

Religion has nothing to do with this. Cowardly terrorists thinking their fanaticism will change the world has everything to do with it.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Let's not fool ourselves here. It's muslim people from the middle east causing this problem. Why spread the blame all over the place just to be politically correct?

You'd be more effective at achieving your objective (preventing terrorism) if you'd keep middle eastern muslims off the trains than everyone's bags.

Un-pc, I know, but let's face reality.

Unabomber?
Timothy McVeigh?

Or are they not a part of "reality"?

Let's say, for the sake of the argument, that after the World Trade Center bombings, you kick all Middle Eastern Muslims out of the US and close the boarders. How many lives would you have saved?

lets say we ban flipping up collars. how many metros would we have pissed off?

you cannot, shall not, will not be able to kick out a citizen of this country out of here based on his race and color of skin alone.

unless you are saying only white people are the true citizens of this country :roll: