North Korean Military Parade

[slurmsmackenzie]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Condor
Another country that will starve their people to build a war machine. Got any medals?

so that's N. Korea, the U.S., and.....

The US spends a few % of its GDP on military. NK spends 30%. Next question.

so what you are saying is that while we are spending 275 billion on military everyone has a nice full belly?

It's actually more than that If you're so worried about others you can send money to a charity. Somehow I doubt you give much of your own money to one though, do you? In any case, if you're starving to death in the US you are a moron. There is simply no excuse for it, and you've only yourself to blame.

that was a profoundly stupid statement. are you to tell me that starving kids have none but themselves to blame? kuwait is 9th on the list of military spending/ % GDP. they are 151st on the child mortality list at 1% dying before the age of 5.

 

[StageLeft]

that was a profoundly stupid statement. are you to tell me that starving kids have none but themselves to blame? kuwait is 9th on the list of military spending/ % GDP. they are 151st on the child mortality list at 1% dying before the age of 5.

You can open a can of worms, but I won't partake. You compared the US to NK, using both as an example of starving the people to build a war machine. NK spends more than 30% of its GDP on the military. Its economy is in _tatters_. The US spends a few %. Its economy is, by far, the best in the world. If there are starving children in the US, and there are very few, it's not for want of money, but for want of attention by their parents. Unless the government is omnipresent, there will always be those who fall through the cracks, whether you spend 0% or 100% of your GDP on military.

 

[slurmsmackenzie]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

that was a profoundly stupid statement. are you to tell me that starving kids have none but themselves to blame? kuwait is 9th on the list of military spending/ % GDP. they are 151st on the child mortality list at 1% dying before the age of 5.

You can open a can of worms, but I won't partake. You compared the US to NK, using both as an example of starving the people to build a war machine. NK spends more than 30% of its GDP on the military. Its economy is in _tatters_. The US spends a few %. Its economy is, by far, the best in the world. If there are starving children in the US, and there are very few, it's not for want of money, but for want of attention by their parents. Unless the government is omnipresent, there will always be those who fall through the cracks, whether you spend 0% or 100% of your GDP on military.

If the US spent just three months occupation costs, they could wipe out hunger and homelessness completely for ten years. However, it does not seem like feeding and sheltering our own citizens has a very high priority..

 

[StageLeft]

That's just nonsense. No society ever has wiped out homelessness and hunger "completely". There are those who fall through the cracks. The 99% of the population that is capable of wandering to a meal kitchen when its hungry can't be expected to take up the slack of the 1% who, by God, are going to be hungry no matter what the gov't does.

Over 40% of homeless persons are eligible for disability benefits, but only 11% actually receive them. Most are eligible for food stamps, but only 37% receive them. Most homeless families are eligible for welfare benefits, but only 52% receive them..

Why?

In truth, and this is totalitarian, if you want to fix this problem you give mandatory sterilization to poor people, because they should not be having kids if they can't feed them

 

[slurmsmackenzie]

in one thread you "don't hail hitler", but in this one you want sterilization for the poor?

i agree.... with this current system of world politics, there will always be hungry people. the country that does actually spend it's money to feed the poor will be deemed weak and will be irradicated by the biggest bully on the block.

you are right, there will always be hunger. that doesn't make it right, or even a necessary evil by any stretch of the imagination. it's an unfortunate fallacy that we have to exist this way. we exist this way because we don't care about people as a whole.

 

[StageLeft]

in one thread you "don't hail hitler", but in this one you want sterilization for the poor?

Note I qualified my statement admitting its totalitarian stance. Granted, there are benefits to it, but ultimately I'd reject such a plan.

In any case you're right that overall we don't care about people. Most humans are very selfish.

 

[slurmsmackenzie]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

in one thread you "don't hail hitler", but in this one you want sterilization for the poor?

Note I qualified my statement admitting its totalitarian stance. Granted, there are benefits to it, but ultimately I'd reject such a plan.

In any case you're right that overall we don't care about people. Most humans are very selfish.

what a disgusting, deplorable world we live in. at least it'll all be over soon. christians, scientists.... both reasonings have us pegged with an early exist from the world stage.

can't say we didn't make the best of it :roll:

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Skoorb

in one thread you "don't hail hitler", but in this one you want sterilization for the poor?

Note I qualified my statement admitting its totalitarian stance. Granted, there are benefits to it, but ultimately I'd reject such a plan.

In any case you're right that overall we don't care about people. Most humans are very selfish.

what a disgusting, deplorable world we live in. at least it'll all be over soon. christians, scientists.... both reasonings have us pegged with an early exist from the world stage.

can't say we didn't make the best of it :roll:

Yep, in time we'll kill ourselves. Kind of sucks!

 

[slurmsmackenzie]

<grabs bong>

"c'mon people now, smile on yer brother...."

 

[Aimster]

only in my threads do such things happens

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Skoorb

that was a profoundly stupid statement. are you to tell me that starving kids have none but themselves to blame? kuwait is 9th on the list of military spending/ % GDP. they are 151st on the child mortality list at 1% dying before the age of 5.

You can open a can of worms, but I won't partake. You compared the US to NK, using both as an example of starving the people to build a war machine. NK spends more than 30% of its GDP on the military. Its economy is in _tatters_. The US spends a few %. Its economy is, by far, the best in the world. If there are starving children in the US, and there are very few, it's not for want of money, but for want of attention by their parents. Unless the government is omnipresent, there will always be those who fall through the cracks, whether you spend 0% or 100% of your GDP on military.

If the US spent just three months occupation costs, they could wipe out hunger and homelessness completely for ten years. However, it does not seem like feeding and sheltering our own citizens has a very high priority..

And show me in the constitution where it says that it is the responsibility of the Gov't to feed and house every person? The fact that they even make an effort is icing on the cake. What you are thinking of is Socialism / Communism! America guarantees people life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It doesn't guarantee you will be successful in your pursuit. It only guarantees the freedom to pursue. Everybody has their sob story. Some people will pick themselves up by the bootstraps and make something of themselves, others will just give up and die. Such is life. Americans have too much sense of entitlement. You are entitled to NOTHING. With as many welfare programs as we have here, if you still can't survive, you weren't meant to.

 

[judasmachine]

Oooh I love a parade!

Watching all those silly bastiches with their medals, and stripes, arrogance, and pride, march down the street showing how a country's might is derived from bloodshed and sacrificeing it's promising young people. Yup sounds like some I've seen here in the states.

 

[shurato]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Condor
Another country that will starve their people to build a war machine. Got any medals?

so that's N. Korea, the U.S., and.....

The US spends a few % of its GDP on military. NK spends 30%. Next question.

so what you are saying is that while we are spending 275 billion on military everyone has a nice full belly?

It's actually more than that If you're so worried about others you can send money to a charity. Somehow I doubt you give much of your own money to one though, do you? In any case, if you're starving to death in the US you are a moron. There is simply no excuse for it, and you've only yourself to blame.

Spoken like a typical arrogant American.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: shurato

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Condor
Another country that will starve their people to build a war machine. Got any medals?

so that's N. Korea, the U.S., and.....

The US spends a few % of its GDP on military. NK spends 30%. Next question.

so what you are saying is that while we are spending 275 billion on military everyone has a nice full belly?

It's actually more than that If you're so worried about others you can send money to a charity. Somehow I doubt you give much of your own money to one though, do you? In any case, if you're starving to death in the US you are a moron. There is simply no excuse for it, and you've only yourself to blame.

Spoken like a typical arrogant American.

Care to elaborate? What's so arrogant about the truth? Or is it that you just like going around calling Americans you don't know arrogant when you disagree with them? I suppose you are the epitome of stoicism and humility? Oh, but then you wouldn't be going around calling people arrogant.

 

[cwjerome]

Littlebig, I think you have a lot of insight into the issue and I appreciate your take on this subject. As far as the "brainwashed" and "propaganda" goes for the US, that's just some people who can't articulate a rational argument and resort to impuning the character of their opponents... it's just another way of saying "dumb."

Only a culture as sophisticated as Western Civ could create people who damn the system that has put them at the top of the pyramid.

 

[raildogg]

People comparing N. Korea to America? Why, I am so shocked.

Lets break things down.

N Korea has about 24 million people (not exactly sure) and about 4 or 5 million of them are either in the military or police force. So about 4 or 5 million out of 24 million people are in the military and police. America has about 300 million people and our total military strength in terms of soldiers is around 1.4 million. Our defense budget is bigger than N. Korea's by about 2,000,000 times.

But our economy is about 20,000,000 times bigger than N. Korea's. Now of course I'm exaggerating, but most people here get the point. We can spend the amount of money we spend on the military because we have so much acculmulative wealth. As other countries become open and their markets flourish thanks to globalization, such as China, mainly, and India they will start to increase expenditure on national defense. China spends a great portion of its GDP on maintaining its enormous military and to keep it modern and growing. Do people go hungry in China? Yes. But do they go hungry specifically because China is spending a great deal of its national wealth on its military? Probably no. Do you actually believe the government feeds the people?

Every country has people that go hungry. Even the socialist European countries you seem to love so much. Germany spends less than us on the military as related to its GDP, yet people go hungry in Germany. There are more hungry people in Germany than in America. Their unemployment rate is much higher than ours.

The point is that its silly to say we can't spend money on national defense because people might go hungry. It has nothing to do with that.