Nothing matters...

[Wallydraigle]

Are you a determinist?

 

[idNut]

When my parents die, I probably will too. I'll have no one then. The depression now will be just a minor bump in the road compared to the crater that lies ahead. When you're stuck on indifference, nothing will get you down because you've reached the ultimate truth. The only thing we can do in this world is what we're doing now: fvcking and existing. I don't believe judgment day will ever come because what's the rush? It's not like it'll be too late. The meaning of life is nothing. I don't, can't believe in anything because the void is the only theory that fits the facts.

 

[Wallydraigle]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: giguana

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
what the hell is this freaky friday with a full moon or soemthing!!?
between your post and MichealD's...man im starting to worry about yootz guys

no sh!t.

HEY PSYCHO... STEP AWAY FROM THE LEDGE...

See now this truly pisses me off. Psycho? For what, realizing that you and I don't matter in this enigma of the universe? I didn't say I wanted to kill thousands of people or anything psychotic as a matter of fact.

Yeah, so you think nothing matters.. right? So why don't you just try to live your life and have fun instead of sitting in your room whining about how your life sucks? Maybe if you would stop complaining and actually do something, you would see how stupid it is to just sit there thinking "nothing matters... why try". Nobody here has any sympathy for you. If you were trying to improve your life, than maybe we would, but you aren't.

Like I said, it's a painful realization to come to. He'll come to terms with it, and realize just how lucky he is not to matter, and to be able to see things a little more clearly than most. I sympathize with him, because I know it hurts right now.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: giguana

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
what the hell is this freaky friday with a full moon or soemthing!!?
between your post and MichealD's...man im starting to worry about yootz guys

no sh!t.

HEY PSYCHO... STEP AWAY FROM THE LEDGE...

See now this truly pisses me off. Psycho? For what, realizing that you and I don't matter in this enigma of the universe? I didn't say I wanted to kill thousands of people or anything psychotic as a matter of fact.

Yeah, so you think nothing matters.. right? So why don't you just try to live your life and have fun instead of sitting in your room whining about how your life sucks? Maybe if you would stop complaining and actually do something, you would see how stupid it is to just sit there thinking "nothing matters... why try". Nobody here has any sympathy for you. If you were trying to improve your life, than maybe we would, but you aren't.

Obviously thats what he should do... but i don't think he wants to see that.

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: giguana

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
what the hell is this freaky friday with a full moon or soemthing!!?
between your post and MichealD's...man im starting to worry about yootz guys

no sh!t.

HEY PSYCHO... STEP AWAY FROM THE LEDGE...

See now this truly pisses me off. Psycho? For what, realizing that you and I don't matter in this enigma of the universe? I didn't say I wanted to kill thousands of people or anything psychotic as a matter of fact.

Yeah, so you think nothing matters.. right? So why don't you just try to live your life and have fun instead of sitting in your room whining about how your life sucks? Maybe if you would stop complaining and actually do something, you would see how stupid it is to just sit there thinking "nothing matters... why try". Nobody here has any sympathy for you. If you were trying to improve your life, than maybe we would, but you aren't.

Even if I was John Carmack and I stumbled upon these facts I'd still find severe depression. Success and happiness are no longer contenders.

 

[Wallydraigle]

Originally posted by: idNut
When my parents die, I probably will too. I'll have no one then. The depression now will be just a minor bump in the road compared to the crater that lies ahead. When you're stuck on indifference, nothing will get you down because you've reached the ultimate truth. The only thing we can do in this world is what we're doing now: fvcking and existing. I don't believe judgment day will ever come because what's the rush? It's not like it'll be too late. The meaning of life is nothing. I don't, can't believe in anything because the void is the only theory that fits the facts.

Right now you need to just play some sad music and chill for a while. Since none of it matters anyway, it won't hurt anything to just enjoy a few tunes, and unwind for a while, right?

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: lirion

Originally posted by: idNut
When my parents die, I probably will too. I'll have no one then. The depression now will be just a minor bump in the road compared to the crater that lies ahead. When you're stuck on indifference, nothing will get you down because you've reached the ultimate truth. The only thing we can do in this world is what we're doing now: fvcking and existing. I don't believe judgment day will ever come because what's the rush? It's not like it'll be too late. The meaning of life is nothing. I don't, can't believe in anything because the void is the only theory that fits the facts.

Right now you need to just play some sad music and chill for a while. Since none of it matters anyway, it won't hurt anything to just enjoy a few tunes, and unwind for a while, right?

Sarcasm?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Although you are explaining it as being a matter of logic, it is because you are depressed. Lots of people also realize that we are just tiny insignificant specks floating around in the universe, but they still have meaningful lives. Look into treatment (sounds like you have already) and/or medication, it could very likely be something like a chemical imbalance.

 

[Wallydraigle]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: lirion

Originally posted by: idNut
When my parents die, I probably will too. I'll have no one then. The depression now will be just a minor bump in the road compared to the crater that lies ahead. When you're stuck on indifference, nothing will get you down because you've reached the ultimate truth. The only thing we can do in this world is what we're doing now: fvcking and existing. I don't believe judgment day will ever come because what's the rush? It's not like it'll be too late. The meaning of life is nothing. I don't, can't believe in anything because the void is the only theory that fits the facts.

Right now you need to just play some sad music and chill for a while. Since none of it matters anyway, it won't hurt anything to just enjoy a few tunes, and unwind for a while, right?

Sarcasm?

Just a little. That's the freedom of not mattering. You can do whatever you want, and it doesn't matter! So you might as well find something to enjoy, even if just for a little while.

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: idNut
When my parents die, I probably will too. I'll have no one then. The depression now will be just a minor bump in the road compared to the crater that lies ahead. When you're stuck on indifference, nothing will get you down because you've reached the ultimate truth. The only thing we can do in this world is what we're doing now: fvcking and existing. I don't believe judgment day will ever come because what's the rush? It's not like it'll be too late. The meaning of life is nothing. I don't, can't believe in anything because the void is the only theory that fits the facts.

I loved someone who thought like this once. And I hoped that if he knew that I loved him it would make a difference, but it didn't.

I'll be the first to admit that this life hasn't been an easy one for me... but then again, there have been moments of sweetness that I come back to when everything seems unbearably gray.

The one thing that never fails to help me feel better is when I forget about myself for a while and focus my attention on helping someone else.

Consider volunteering at your local animal shelter, or joining a group that works to make a difference in the world (like Habitat for Humanity or a food bank).

The only meaning life has is the meaning you give it. This is your choice, so stop choosing to dwell on the pain and focus on something more constructive!

<---been there, done that, moving forward

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Although you are explaining it as being a matter of logic, it is because you are depressed. Lots of people also realize that we are just tiny insignificant specks floating around in the universe, but they still have meaningful lives. Look into treatment (sounds like you have already) and/or medication, it could very likely be something like a chemical imbalance.

So it sounds like you're siding with my psychologist that this is just a side effect of depression? Hell, this is the cause of my depression.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Although you are explaining it as being a matter of logic, it is because you are depressed. Lots of people also realize that we are just tiny insignificant specks floating around in the universe, but they still have meaningful lives. Look into treatment (sounds like you have already) and/or medication, it could very likely be something like a chemical imbalance.

So it sounds like you're siding with my psychologist that this is just a side effect of depression? Hell, this is the cause of my depression.

One of the sticky points about psychotherapy is that it only works if you want it to. If you really knew what the cause of your depression was, you'd be able to switch it off anytime you wished. We all know the futility of our existence, but not all of us suffer from depression. Why do you think that is?

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Although you are explaining it as being a matter of logic, it is because you are depressed. Lots of people also realize that we are just tiny insignificant specks floating around in the universe, but they still have meaningful lives. Look into treatment (sounds like you have already) and/or medication, it could very likely be something like a chemical imbalance.

So it sounds like you're siding with my psychologist that this is just a side effect of depression? Hell, this is the cause of my depression.

Unless you have a physical disorder, you're just a teenager going through the standard teenage-angst phase. 99% of the time, You are the cause of your depression.

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Although you are explaining it as being a matter of logic, it is because you are depressed. Lots of people also realize that we are just tiny insignificant specks floating around in the universe, but they still have meaningful lives. Look into treatment (sounds like you have already) and/or medication, it could very likely be something like a chemical imbalance.

So it sounds like you're siding with my psychologist that this is just a side effect of depression? Hell, this is the cause of my depression.

One of the sticky points about psychotherapy is that it only works if you want it to. If you really knew what the cause of your depression was, you'd be able to switch it off anytime you wished. We all know the futility of our existence, but not all of us suffer from depression. Why do you think that is?

I wouldn't say I'm suffering from depression but rather life.

"If you really knew what the cause of your depression was, you'd be able to switch it off anytime you wished." That is very untrue. That's like telling a cancer victim that you'd be able to switch off the disease.

The only thing I hope for is that God exists.

 

[Wallydraigle]

A meaningless life is like an empty sack. You can put anything in it you want! I woudn't want to be handed a sack full of whatever someone else wanted. A life like that, with it's own predetermined meaning, would only have meaning for someone else. Life having no meaing is a good thing! It's clear where I live tonight. Go out and look at the stars. I guarrantee you'll feel something, and for you it''l matter, even if just for a little while.

 

[Ime]

Originally posted by: idNut
I'm hell-bent on believing nothing matters in life and/or death. I've really shifted to the beliefs of a nihilist lately. I can't see any meaning in anything anymore: success, failure, living, dying, pain and pleasure. Am I the only person who sees this? Everyone goes about life as if they're serving some divine purpose. After they die, the earth will still rotate and orbit, nothing changes. (Read Ecclesiastes) My psychologist ignores me when I ask these questions and he thinks they're just a side effect from being depressed about my family. I assure you that this affects me much more than my family. I think he believes that once my family problems are solved I will return to conformity and these thoughts will never bother me again.

This has affected my life so much lately that the only thing I will do is sleep. I don't want to deal with reality so I just fall asleep for as long as I can and when I've slept all I can, I'll stare at the ceiling until I fall asleep again. This is the rare occasion that I'll venture to my computer to visit Anandtech because this is my favorite site and I guess one of the only things I live for (Ha). So my standards have fallen in life. My goal in life is to get through life as a recluse because I no longer desire the pleasure of success or the pain of failure. I care about nothing and no one, least of all myself. I have one thing on my mind.

Been there, done that. I probably saw the same fvcking shrink you did. Shrinks are idiots. All they do is meddle and screw things up even worse. Just bullsh!t the shrink.

I stared into the same abyss 10 years ago. I too had to make the choice between life and death. I stared death straight in the face.

I turned away from death, and chose life. Never looked back. Things were rough at first, but in the end turned out pretty good.

Which will you choose?

 

[BD231]

Some decide to deal with life, others stare, sleep and feel sorry for themselfs. Get over it iDnut, everyone suffers from the facts of life. Do you have cancer?, are you bed riddin 24/7 do to physical defects? Do you have diabetes? If not your far better off than many in this meaningless life we live.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Although you are explaining it as being a matter of logic, it is because you are depressed. Lots of people also realize that we are just tiny insignificant specks floating around in the universe, but they still have meaningful lives. Look into treatment (sounds like you have already) and/or medication, it could very likely be something like a chemical imbalance.

So it sounds like you're siding with my psychologist that this is just a side effect of depression? Hell, this is the cause of my depression.

I'm not "siding" with anyone, just giving my opinion. The fact is, depression is not something you are "supposed" to be, and if you are depressed, then you are "supposed" to fix it. I put quotes on "supposed" because it is the general consensus of society, but that's not to say it is right (since when do we know 100% of what there is to know about the mind?), although society says it is right. If you take care of your depression, you yourself will likely agree that being depressed is no fun.

Like Isla said, we're all in the exact same situation as you are, it's just a matter of enjoying your time on earth before it's over, that's all.

The issue of suicide is a strange one. I believe that there is no "soul", no "afterlife", none of that. When you die, it's simply lights out. In that regard, it makes suicide seem like not that bad of a thing, especially when life is so bleak. You could just end it all with a blow to the head or whatever, and you'd never exist again. Lights out, no pain. However, there are so many interesting things to do in life, I don't really think it's the best use of your um, "time" (time being the time alloted to you during life). How old are you? What do you not like about life? What can you do to change it? There is still the very huge issue of your depression, and taking care of it. If not depression, then another illness. It is simply not considered normal to feel the way you do, and therefore it likely falls under some category of mental illness. Get it taken care of, it is treatable.

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: Ime

Originally posted by: idNut
I'm hell-bent on believing nothing matters in life and/or death. I've really shifted to the beliefs of a nihilist lately. I can't see any meaning in anything anymore: success, failure, living, dying, pain and pleasure. Am I the only person who sees this? Everyone goes about life as if they're serving some divine purpose. After they die, the earth will still rotate and orbit, nothing changes. (Read Ecclesiastes) My psychologist ignores me when I ask these questions and he thinks they're just a side effect from being depressed about my family. I assure you that this affects me much more than my family. I think he believes that once my family problems are solved I will return to conformity and these thoughts will never bother me again.

This has affected my life so much lately that the only thing I will do is sleep. I don't want to deal with reality so I just fall asleep for as long as I can and when I've slept all I can, I'll stare at the ceiling until I fall asleep again. This is the rare occasion that I'll venture to my computer to visit Anandtech because this is my favorite site and I guess one of the only things I live for (Ha). So my standards have fallen in life. My goal in life is to get through life as a recluse because I no longer desire the pleasure of success or the pain of failure. I care about nothing and no one, least of all myself. I have one thing on my mind.

Been there, done that. I probably saw the same fvcking shrink you did. Shrinks are idiots. All they do is meddle and screw things up even worse. Just bullsh!t the shrink.

I stared into the same abyss 10 years ago. I too had to make the choice between life and death. I stared death straight in the face.

I turned away from death, and chose life. Never looked back. Things were rough at first, but in the end turned out pretty good.

Which will you choose?

My favorite lyricist [Ian Curtis] chose the former. I don't even know him and I actually mourn over the guy. I don't blame him though. I think he's seen things like me but magnified ten times. He was born and dead before I was even born. Really sucks.

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: BD231
Some decide to deal with life, others stare, sleep and feel sorry for themselfs. Get over it iDnut, everyone suffers from the facts of life. Do you have cancer?, are you bed riddin 24/7 do to physical defects? Do you have diabetes? If not your far better off than many in this meaningless life we live.

I have diabetes.

 

[StageLeft]

I've thought about this and I can definitely empathize with much (though not all) of the point of view. But I know that no matter how far I took such feelings I could never go all the way. If nothing mattered to you _truly_ you wouldn't even be writing this thread. You wouldn't read replies. You wouldn't be eating. You wouldn't do anything but probably lie on the floor oblivious to the world around you.

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I've thought about this and I can definitely empathize with much (though not all) of the point of view. But I know that no matter how far I took such feelings I could never go all the way. If nothing mattered to you _truly_ you wouldn't even be writing this thread. You wouldn't read replies. You wouldn't be eating. You wouldn't do anything but probably lie on the floor oblivious to the world around you.

Sounds like the next step.

 

[StageLeft]

Shrinks are idiots. All they do is meddle and screw things up even worse. Just bullsh!t the shrink.

BUZZ. Sorry you lose. Shrinks have helped millions of people across the world. Just because a shrink couldn't help you doesn't mean that the successful cases didn't happen because they have and they do.

Anyway idnut go on drugs. I think in your state of mind it's tough for anybody to convince you to because you think that "who cares it doesn't matter", so it's almost something you blindly have to do but if a shrink put you on the right drugs it could help, though I do realize there is little point in trying to convince you of it in your state of mind.

 

[TourGuide]

The only thing I hope for is that God exists.

What if she doesn't? Then you'd be f*cked wouldn't you?


The meaning in life is in serving others. I agree with others here who've suggested you volunteer at an animal shelter or a homeless shelter.

When you leave this world you DON'T want to be remembered as a liability to your community. Be remembered as an asset to it and a community contributor. Keep seeing your therapist and get yourself re-oriented to the world.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I've thought about this and I can definitely empathize with much (though not all) of the point of view. But I know that no matter how far I took such feelings I could never go all the way. If nothing mattered to you _truly_ you wouldn't even be writing this thread. You wouldn't read replies. You wouldn't be eating. You wouldn't do anything but probably lie on the floor oblivious to the world around you.

Sounds like the next step.

This thread is a cry for help, and a blazing one at that. If you truly wanted to go that way, you would not have posted this thread.

What can we do to help you out?