I didn't imply they were conflicted, polling by uber right wing pollster frank luntz did. Ignore it if it makes you feel better though.
LOL at you, speculating about NRA membership. Excellent tactic though, take a group you vehemently oppose and imply members are conflicted, as if 100% must be lockstep. I belong to to several organizations or associations and do you think I'm on board with 100% of what they say and do? Does anyone? Considering myself and the dozen gun enthusiasts I know are not part of the NRA (and I'm sure many others on P&N have the same experience), it takes a pretty committed person to actually join and I think it's safe to say the NRA crowd is a pretty tight group. Regardless, the actual number of people who support the NRA's general cause is much, much larger than their membership.
I didn't imply they were conflicted, polling by uber right wing pollster frank luntz did. Ignore it if it makes you feel better though.
Heh, I'm not ignoring it, I'm laughing at you for the using as an angle. News flash, some people in a group don't always agree with the group!! If that's what you want to use to push your agenda, have at it, because that's really good stuff
75% of that group disagreed with leaderships position on a major issue currently under debate. That's notable to me. If it isn't to you...uhmm....ok.
75% of that group disagreed with leaderships position on a major issue currently under debate. That's notable to me. If it isn't to you...uhmm....ok.
Uhmm, basically every Republican president and presidential nominee says them all the time. Additionally, they do it.
The reactions are not remotely comparable. This isn't Obama actually doing anything, it was a statement that they might do some nebulous thing in the future. This was responded to with pure, batshit lunacy. I am unaware of any democrats threatening to go down in a hail of gunfire because say...Bush said hr didn't like abortion.
More false equivalence.
Meanwhile, millions of others have decided that reasonalble gun control measures will have to be a part of a rational future for the US.
You heard of a shovel?
<--Gun owner. Not a member of the NRA.
As a voting block 5 million is sizeable. Other organizations are dwarfed by that number.
I appreciate your efforts CK, it's a good thing that someone keeps making the attempt.
If you really want to show your appreciation, think twice before you contribute to derailing other threads with your own accusations of "trolling" and so forth.
We have reasonable gun control, you want more, then you need to give up something. Compromise isn't just gun owners giving you what you want.
We're only talking about 100,000 here. The 4.1 million was already pwned in the 2008 and 2012 elections.
"Since the vicious political attacks on the NRA and gun rights "
a vicious attack is killing children.
Expressing an opinion about a political lobby or a policy isn't an attack and it isn't vicious.
I want nothing. The gun culture fostered by gun manufacturers to create an army of psychotics to defend gun possession in conjunction with the simpering cowardliness of the conservative brain defect has created a culture of paralysis and fear within our politics that all the children being killed by guns as a result of their ubiquity is eroding. Change is the only constant. The psychotic will be run over or they will come to the table and compromise. As insane as gun owners are about their guns, mothers are more insane about their kids and they vote in larger numbers. America is always about asshole men and liberal women and we know who's going to win.
I want nothing. The gun culture fostered by gun manufacturers to create an army of psychotics to defend gun possession in conjunction with the simpering cowardliness of the conservative brain defect has created a culture of paralysis and fear within our politics that all the children being killed by guns as a result of their ubiquity is eroding. Change is the only constant. The psychotic will be run over or they will come to the table and compromise. As insane as gun owners are about their guns, mothers are more insane about their kids and they vote in larger numbers. America is always about asshole men and liberal women and we know who's going to win.
very good points Moonbeam
He said vicious political attack.
Adjectives.. they matter.
No, it's just bias, amoral, fallacious, duplicitous and stupid.