That's some hard spin from DF. Some forget that the mining craze is over and the AI craze has no use for 8GB cards. Gamers needn't have such low standards.Anyone catch the Digital Foundry review? They began it by saying you're getting a better RTX 2070 Super for $300 instead of $500 and with much lower power consumption. Then they raved about how you can do Cyberpunk RT overdrive at an average 58 fps.... with DLSS 3 frame gen on. Had to close the video then, as who wants to play with 24-33 Hz controls? (fps seemed to go from about 48 to 66)
"Our AI neural network is trained on a bank of professional gamers! Trust that you will have the biggest competitive advantage with Nvidia Game Flow!"
That is real shilling.Anyone catch the Digital Foundry review? They began it by saying you're getting a better RTX 2070 Super for $300 instead of $500 and with much lower power consumption. Then they raved about how you can do Cyberpunk RT overdrive at an average 58 fps.... with DLSS 3 frame gen on. Had to close the video then, as who wants to play with 24-33 Hz controls? (fps seemed to go from about 48 to 66)
That's some hard spin from DF. Some forget that the mining craze is over and the AI craze has no use for 8GB cards. Gamers needn't have such low standards.
So, where does this leave us with the RTX 4060? It would be very easy to dismiss this as the RTX 4060 Ti experience scaled back to a lower price tier - and to be fair, all of the benchmarks back up that point of view.
Performance upgrades against the RTX 3060 can be impressive or they can be risible. The variation on a title-by-title basis is extraordinary, just as it was for RTX 4060 Ti. Either way, you're still missing out on the extra 4GB of framebuffer memory that the older product had and any regression in spec from one generation to the next is not great. Meanwhile, the RTX 4060's 8GB of memory puts it into the same class of product as the Intel Arc A750 and Radeon RX 7600, where the price vs performance ratios skew in favour of the cheaper offerings. The thing is, as my recent budget GPU testing revealed, there's no clear winner here. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses.
All of which means that the RTX 4060 joins an incredibly hotly contested market sector, where AMD's RX 7600 seems to have recently received a pricing haircut to $250, which makes it very compelling, especially for rasterisation. Intel's Arc A750 is the same price and can mix it up with the 4060 in RT performance, but falls short in legacy gaming. The RTX 3060? It's the only 12GB game in town at a time when too many games are shipping with poor texture quality management for 8GB GPUs. There is no one product under £299/$299 that delivers everything I think a gamer should have at that price-point.
The arrival of the RTX 4060 does not change that conclusion that much, it simply expands the range of possible areas of strength - because as much as the reduction in memory vs RTX 3060 is frustrating, there's no doubt that the RTX 4060 is generally faster than its predecessor, while DLSS 3 absolutely can be a game-changer in this sector of the market. Meanwhile, if Cyberpunk 2077's RT Overdrive path-tracing is a vision for the future of gaming, right now only the RTX 4060 is going to open up that experience for the budget GPU sector. Especially with the RT optimisation mod in place, seeing a path-traced Cyberpunk 2077 play out at 1080p at 60-90fps was a simply extraordinary feat. The RTX 4060 can do things no other GPU can do, but it's one step away from being the definitive product for its market.
That sounds a lot less like AI and more like some kind of vampiric neural net!"Our AI neural network is trained on a bank of professional gamers! Trust that you will have the biggest competitive advantage with Nvidia Game Flow!"
That's even more ridiculously off the deep end of nerdish nonsense. You are now futzing about the name of the GPU die.
Pardon my indiscretion for engaging in any kind of nerdary on this an enthusiast tech forum.
Also, you didn't address my point. Unfortunately this isn't dodgeball so I award you no points.
Indeed. 3060-equivalent performance for $199 as a 4050ti minus a little VRAM, what's not to like?If this was a $199 4050ti, I'd be very happy.
If this was a $199 4050ti, I'd be very happy. It feels like the engineers made a brilliant low end card, and the marketing team screwed things up.
There will be thousands and thousands of people that will buy a 4050 for $300 , just take a look at 3050 in steam. So no, Marketing team made an excellent job, just wait a few months and you will see how many uninformed gamers are all around us ready to spend $300 for a 4050 renamed to 4060.
I always chuckled to myself seeing the prices of 3050 and 1050 Ti.So many ill-informed people bought 3050's over much better 6600's. Just like many other bought 1050 Ti's over RX 580's.
Friend's sister bought her kids a 3050 to replace an old AMD 290 from best buy for $350 as a xmas gift. We had her return it and buy a 6700xt instead for $330.So many ill-informed people bought 3050's over much better 6600's. Just like many other bought 1050 Ti's over RX 580's.
You didn't have to deprive the poor children of DLSS and ray tracing like thatFriend's sister bought her kids a 3050 to replace an old AMD 290 from best buy for $350 as a xmas gift. We had her return it and buy a 6700xt instead for $330.
RTX 3050 with Ray Tracing: The only thing in the universe that can make light travel slow enough that you can see the individual photons move.You didn't have to deprive the poor children of DLSS and ray tracing like that
They definitely getting the 8090 Ti for $2500 with their first paycheck when they grow up. Poor kids. Scarred for life. Probably crying themselves to sleep at night.You didn't have to deprive the poor children of DLSS and ray tracing like that
You didn't have to deprive the poor children of DLSS and ray tracing like that
RTX 3050 with Ray Tracing: The only thing in the universe that can make light travel slow enough that you can see the individual photons move.
*Cries in 3060Ti.RTX 3050 with Ray Tracing: The only thing in the universe that can make light travel slow enough that you can see the individual photons move.
Laughed a bit. Enjoy your new card, it should work great in a small and energy efficient build.The only real AMD option [...] isn't Nvidia. Not really an option.
Son just bought a 4060, for all the hate it's still the best card at it's price - 3060ti's and 3070's are significantly more expensive, 3060 is barely cheaper. It's small and lower power so he was thinking he'd need to upgrade his PSU but he doesn't for a 4060. It has all the latest features. It's gonna be very popular so games will be made to run well on it like they were for the 1060 it's replacing because of it's popularity.
The only real AMD option is the 6700xt and that was significantly more expensive, has a much higher power usage (so new psu), lacks features, and isn't Nvidia. Not really an option.
There is so much rage on this thread about what it's not got, but the 4060 is still the obvious choice for people at that price. There really isn't a better option.
LoL what kind of clown PSU are we talking here? A vanillia 6700 would've cost less. A 6700 XT would cost a bit more but blow the doors off of a 4060.
Lacks features, so DLSS 3 fake frames? Not Nvidia, so that goes against it too? The 4060 isn't bad but it is terribly priced.
"Obvious choice". Obvious choice for me would be a 6700 (XT). More VRAM, more performance. The 4060 and espeically the 4060 Ti and Ti 16GB are the obvious losers. Anyone who buys a 4060 Ti 16GB should be castrated for stupidity.