NV 4060 / 4060TI reviews

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SteveGrabowski

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Anyone catch the Digital Foundry review? They began it by saying you're getting a better RTX 2070 Super for $300 instead of $500 and with much lower power consumption. Then they raved about how you can do Cyberpunk RT overdrive at an average 58 fps.... with DLSS 3 frame gen on. Had to close the video then, as who wants to play with 24-33 Hz controls? (fps seemed to go from about 48 to 66)
 

gdansk

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Anyone catch the Digital Foundry review? They began it by saying you're getting a better RTX 2070 Super for $300 instead of $500 and with much lower power consumption. Then they raved about how you can do Cyberpunk RT overdrive at an average 58 fps.... with DLSS 3 frame gen on. Had to close the video then, as who wants to play with 24-33 Hz controls? (fps seemed to go from about 48 to 66)
That's some hard spin from DF. Some forget that the mining craze is over and the AI craze has no use for 8GB cards. Gamers needn't have such low standards.
 

Ranulf

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"Our AI neural network is trained on a bank of professional gamers! Trust that you will have the biggest competitive advantage with Nvidia Game Flow!"

Then you get banned for cheating with an aim hack.
 

Aapje

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Anyone catch the Digital Foundry review? They began it by saying you're getting a better RTX 2070 Super for $300 instead of $500 and with much lower power consumption. Then they raved about how you can do Cyberpunk RT overdrive at an average 58 fps.... with DLSS 3 frame gen on. Had to close the video then, as who wants to play with 24-33 Hz controls? (fps seemed to go from about 48 to 66)
That is real shilling.
 

Heartbreaker

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That's some hard spin from DF. Some forget that the mining craze is over and the AI craze has no use for 8GB cards. Gamers needn't have such low standards.

It can look that way, if you cherry pick only his positive comments.

You can read the text review conclusion here:


So, where does this leave us with the RTX 4060? It would be very easy to dismiss this as the RTX 4060 Ti experience scaled back to a lower price tier - and to be fair, all of the benchmarks back up that point of view.

Performance upgrades against the RTX 3060 can be impressive or they can be risible. The variation on a title-by-title basis is extraordinary, just as it was for RTX 4060 Ti. Either way, you're still missing out on the extra 4GB of framebuffer memory that the older product had and any regression in spec from one generation to the next is not great. Meanwhile, the RTX 4060's 8GB of memory puts it into the same class of product as the Intel Arc A750 and Radeon RX 7600, where the price vs performance ratios skew in favour of the cheaper offerings. The thing is, as my recent budget GPU testing revealed, there's no clear winner here. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses.

All of which means that the RTX 4060 joins an incredibly hotly contested market sector, where AMD's RX 7600 seems to have recently received a pricing haircut to $250, which makes it very compelling, especially for rasterisation. Intel's Arc A750 is the same price and can mix it up with the 4060 in RT performance, but falls short in legacy gaming. The RTX 3060? It's the only 12GB game in town at a time when too many games are shipping with poor texture quality management for 8GB GPUs. There is no one product under £299/$299 that delivers everything I think a gamer should have at that price-point.

The arrival of the RTX 4060 does not change that conclusion that much, it simply expands the range of possible areas of strength - because as much as the reduction in memory vs RTX 3060 is frustrating, there's no doubt that the RTX 4060 is generally faster than its predecessor, while DLSS 3 absolutely can be a game-changer in this sector of the market. Meanwhile, if Cyberpunk 2077's RT Overdrive path-tracing is a vision for the future of gaming, right now only the RTX 4060 is going to open up that experience for the budget GPU sector. Especially with the RT optimisation mod in place, seeing a path-traced Cyberpunk 2077 play out at 1080p at 60-90fps was a simply extraordinary feat. The RTX 4060 can do things no other GPU can do, but it's one step away from being the definitive product for its market.


Does that sound like some kind of ringing endorsement to you?

The main problem with DF, is that they are too enamored with Frame Generation.

I have no problem with people saying FG improves their experience, but IMO the FG FPS should absolutely not be compared to other cards without FG, as if it was real FPS, which DF tends to do.
 

KompuKare

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"Our AI neural network is trained on a bank of professional gamers! Trust that you will have the biggest competitive advantage with Nvidia Game Flow!"
That sounds a lot less like AI and more like some kind of vampiric neural net!
 

Heartbreaker

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Pardon my indiscretion for engaging in any kind of nerdary on this an enthusiast tech forum.

Also, you didn't address my point. Unfortunately this isn't dodgeball so I award you no points.

I didn't really see a point other than justification of the "name matters more" theory by going further down the nerd rabbit hole of completely irrelevant minutia.
 

gdansk

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But Nvidia is going to be a bit miffed when reviewers keep bringing up a $300 xx60 card in 2025 when the 5060 releases for $450.
 
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AtenRa

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If this was a $199 4050ti, I'd be very happy. It feels like the engineers made a brilliant low end card, and the marketing team screwed things up.

There will be thousands and thousands of people that will buy a 4050 for $300 , just take a look at 3050 in steam. So no, Marketing team made an excellent job, just wait a few months and you will see how many uninformed gamers are all around us ready to spend $300 for a 4050 renamed to 4060.
 

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There will be thousands and thousands of people that will buy a 4050 for $300 , just take a look at 3050 in steam. So no, Marketing team made an excellent job, just wait a few months and you will see how many uninformed gamers are all around us ready to spend $300 for a 4050 renamed to 4060.

So many ill-informed people bought 3050's over much better 6600's. Just like many other bought 1050 Ti's over RX 580's.
 
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So many ill-informed people bought 3050's over much better 6600's. Just like many other bought 1050 Ti's over RX 580's.
I always chuckled to myself seeing the prices of 3050 and 1050 Ti.

I wouldn't buy those turds even at half price.

And we have yet to see nGreedia release the turds of this generation, the actual 4050 and 4030 cards.

No wonder countries around the world have so many problems. The general public has turds for brains. They can't even choose a proper graphics card. How they gonna vote for a good leader?
 
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You didn't have to deprive the poor children of DLSS and ray tracing like that
They definitely getting the 8090 Ti for $2500 with their first paycheck when they grow up. Poor kids. Scarred for life. Probably crying themselves to sleep at night.
 

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Son just bought a 4060, for all the hate it's still the best card at it's price - 3060ti's and 3070's are significantly more expensive, 3060 is barely cheaper. It's small and lower power so he was thinking he'd need to upgrade his PSU but he doesn't for a 4060. It has all the latest features. It's gonna be very popular so games will be made to run well on it like they were for the 1060 it's replacing because of it's popularity.

The only real AMD option is the 6700xt and that was significantly more expensive, has a much higher power usage (so new psu), lacks features, and isn't Nvidia. Not really an option.

There is so much rage on this thread about what it's not got, but the 4060 is still the obvious choice for people at that price. There really isn't a better option.
 
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Thunder 57

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Son just bought a 4060, for all the hate it's still the best card at it's price - 3060ti's and 3070's are significantly more expensive, 3060 is barely cheaper. It's small and lower power so he was thinking he'd need to upgrade his PSU but he doesn't for a 4060. It has all the latest features. It's gonna be very popular so games will be made to run well on it like they were for the 1060 it's replacing because of it's popularity.

The only real AMD option is the 6700xt and that was significantly more expensive, has a much higher power usage (so new psu), lacks features, and isn't Nvidia. Not really an option.

There is so much rage on this thread about what it's not got, but the 4060 is still the obvious choice for people at that price. There really isn't a better option.

LoL what kind of clown PSU are we talking here? A vanillia 6700 would've cost less. A 6700 XT would cost a bit more but blow the doors off of a 4060.

Lacks features, so DLSS 3 fake frames? Not Nvidia, so that goes against it too? The 4060 isn't bad but it is terribly priced.

"Obvious choice". Obvious choice for me would be a 6700 (XT). More VRAM, more performance. The 4060 and espeically the 4060 Ti and Ti 16GB are the obvious losers. Anyone who buys a 4060 Ti 16GB should be castrated for stupidity.
 
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Heartbreaker

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LoL what kind of clown PSU are we talking here? A vanillia 6700 would've cost less. A 6700 XT would cost a bit more but blow the doors off of a 4060.

Lacks features, so DLSS 3 fake frames? Not Nvidia, so that goes against it too? The 4060 isn't bad but it is terribly priced.

"Obvious choice". Obvious choice for me would be a 6700 (XT). More VRAM, more performance. The 4060 and espeically the 4060 Ti and Ti 16GB are the obvious losers. Anyone who buys a 4060 Ti 16GB should be castrated for stupidity.

You don't know where he is, and what outlets he shops.

For Example: I'm in Canada, and only willing to buy a GPU from Amazon.ca (not their 3rd party market either) for simplicity in returns and overall trustworthiness. Prices at Amazon.ca have been fairly in line with performance.

I have a big wish list of AMD and NVidia GPUs and it's the first link I check each morning looking for deals.

I've never seen a RX 6700 (non XT) in stock. At Amazon it's a unicorn.

Prices are in Canadian Dollars:

On the AMD side:

Best Priced RX 67x0 option is the 6750 XT for $539.
Next step down is:
RX 7600 for $369, Which has a better price than the cheapest 6650 Xt at $392.
For the Step up:
6800XT for $793, there are no Amazon sold RX 6800 (A card I would be interested in), but even a third party is selling for an unpalatable $699, and it was kind of lucky to see a 6800XT in stock at all.

On the NVidia side:

4060 Ti - $539 - Essentially equal performance and price with the 6750 Xt.
4060 - $419 - Though these just entered the system and there is only 2. Wait a few days and the should fall to $399 vs $369 for the 7600, but for now the price difference may make the RX 7600 the winner.
4070 - $804 vs $793 for the 6800XT.


So here at least. At each performance tier, the price difference between AMD and NVidia is quite small, so then it becomes a battle of features, and NVidia wins the battle of features IMO.
 
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