Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q1-2025

[Win2012R2]

Many parts slated for 2024 were originally designed for N3B, only Apple and Intel ultimately used it.

I could be mistaken, but Apple had N3B in 2023 used in iPhone (it was junk) but in 2024 they successfully switched to N3E which worked great for M4.

And now already there is talk of M5 on N3P - where are our leaks from Nvidia using it? Yes I am looking at YOU - MLID!

 

[branch_suggestion]

I could be mistaken, but Apple had N3B in 2023 used in iPhone (it was junk) but in 2024 they successfully switched to N3E which worked great for M4.

And now already there is talk of M5 on N3P - where are our leaks from Nvidia using it? Yes I am looking at YOU - MLID!

It's Apple, they are always first to a new node.
Well them and AMD, both because their lead N3E parts were small.

 

[jpiniero]

I could be mistaken, but Apple had N3B in 2023 used in iPhone (it was junk) but in 2024 they successfully switched to N3E which worked great for M4.

And now already there is talk of M5 on N3P - where are our leaks from Nvidia using it? Yes I am looking at YOU - MLID!

I expect Rubin to use that.

I do wonder why nVidia didn't use N4P.

 

[Kepler_L2]

Many parts slated for 2024 were originally designed for N3B, only Apple and Intel ultimately used it.
So it is possible Blackwell was a backport, we already know Zen5 was.

I think the 200 naming scheme gives it away this was their backup plan.

 

[Kepler_L2]

I expect Rubin to use that.

Some products are jumping straight from N4/N5 to N2.

 

[jpiniero]

Some products are jumping straight from N4/N5 to N2.

I'd be very surprised if Rubin Gaming uses N2, even as a compute only chiplet. I'd expect it to be monolithic still.

 

[poke01]

I'd be very surprised if Rubin Gaming uses N2, even as a compute only chiplet. I'd expect it to be monolithic still.

it likely will

 

[CP5670]

That's nuts. For $1400 over MSRP you could buy FE and a whole 9800X3D system to go with it.

Is this actually a new MSRP? In that case MC and Newegg will increase the prices too.

 

[branch_suggestion]

https://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalesaustralia/comments/1ijg19l/hi_guysanother_update_from_my_contact_at_nvidia

NV's Australian reps are absolutely livid.
Spilling a lot of beans over this whole mess.

 

[beginner99]

Same everywhere. No cards available, most have an unknown delivery date, the ones that have a date say april 3rd.

 

[blackangus]

I see various retailers in the US have already increased prices across the board by 100$ to 400$ (*or more) on all models.
So now there is no way to get anything at Nvidias indicated MSRP's, even if there was availability.
This pushed both the 5080 and 5090 into a "bad value" range for me.
It was already bad enough but this is just too much, not because of affordability - I just feel like Im getting ripped off.

 

[Thunder 57]

I see various retailers in the US have already increased prices across the board by 100$ to 400$ (*or more) on all models.
So now there is no way to get anything at Nvidias indicated MSRP's, even if there was availability.
This pushed both the 5080 and 5090 into a "bad value" range for me.
It was already bad enough but this is just too much, not because of affordability - I just feel like Im getting ripped off.

Fake frames MSRP. To be fair the B580 has the same thing going on though at a much lesser level and I expect AMD will be no different.

 

[branch_suggestion]

Fake frames MSRP. To be fair the B580 has the same thing going on though at a much lesser level and I expect AMD will be no different.

AMD have given themselves time to talk to OEMs and retailers to adjust their target MSRP while ensuring everyone has positive margins.
Basically, either the IHV sacrifices their own margins or the MSRP is fake, pretty simple.
Gotta love tariffs.

 

[blackangus]

I dont think this is tariffs, the price increases I saw dont appear to be x% but varying. But my sample set was small.

 

[CP5670]

I see some cards like Asus went up on MC but not others. At this point the FE and Windforce models are the only ones you can get at the original $2000 price.

 

[blackangus]

I see some cards like Asus went up on MC but not others. At this point the FE and Windforce models are the only ones you can get at the original $2000 price.

Couple of places I looked even the windforce pricing when up.

 

[eek2121]

Nobody tell NVIDIA MFG works just fine on the 4x series and also AMD cards as well using lossless scaling on Steam. 🤣

 

[APU_Fusion]

Can’t find 5090? Just spend 4k on 4090 in stock at Newegg

I had myself budgeted for new gaming/photoshop pc around 5090/9950x3d. Now … shrugs. Maybe I will get 9070xt and wait??

 

[coercitiv]

Can’t find 5090? Just spend 4k on 4090 in stock at Newegg

I had myself budgeted for new gaming/photoshop pc around 5090/9950x3d. Now … shrugs. Maybe I will get 9070xt and wait??

Nonsense! You can still buy a 3090 just a bit above MSRP.

 

[Elfear]

Can’t find 5090? Just spend 4k on 4090 in stock at Newegg

I had myself budgeted for new gaming/photoshop pc around 5090/9950x3d. Now … shrugs. Maybe I will get 9070xt and wait??

I planned to get a 5090 too and then reviews dropped and prices rose. Hopefully the 9070XT can wow us a little.

 

[eek2121]

Can’t find 5090? Just spend 4k on 4090 in stock at Newegg

I had myself budgeted for new gaming/photoshop pc around 5090/9950x3d. Now … shrugs. Maybe I will get 9070xt and wait??

Nonsense! You can still buy a 3090 just a bit above MSRP.

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I still don’t regret paying a scalper for my 4090FE. Sure, he made a few hundred bucks (like $200 at best after markup and sellers fees), but he could have made so much more…

I just checked ebay and apparently used FE cards are selling for more than what I paid for it, so yep, no regrets at all lol

EDIT: My 3090 as well. Wasn’t an FE card, but it was a rare EVGA model, should probably list that one, my 1080ti has a home, but my 3090 is actually collecting dust.

I have got to start selling more of my old hardware.

 

[CP5670]

I got mine from a scalper too but it was the msrp+tax price with no markup. I have offers to sell for more than that too, but only if I can actually find a 5090.

FB marketplace prices are a bit better than ebay if you want a 4090.

 

[MrTeal]

I still don’t regret paying a scalper for my 4090FE. Sure, he made a few hundred bucks (like $200 at best after markup and sellers fees), but he could have made so much more…

I just checked ebay and apparently used FE cards are selling for more than what I paid for it, so yep, no regrets at all lol

EDIT: My 3090 as well. Wasn’t an FE card, but it was a rare EVGA model, should probably list that one, my 1080ti has a home, but my 3090 is actually collecting dust.

I have got to start selling more of my old hardware.

Storage locker. Sell nothing, hoard everything.

 

[SolidQ]

On your opinion trust\not trust

Radeon 5700XT bite 5xxx series NV?

Nvidia is 'investigating the reported issues with the RTX 50-series' cards after RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 owners (and some RTX 40-series folk) report black screen problems

Proof, not that it was needed, that you should always do a clean driver wipe before a new GPU install.

www.pcgamer.com

 

[Heartbreaker]

On your opinion trust\not trust

Not Trust.

What's the source of that nonsense?

It makes ZERO sense that 5070 Ti would be relatively faster in RT, but the 5070 would relatively much worse at RT.