And here's the desktop 5050. Comes with GDDR6. MSRP is $249.
$49 higher than it should be. Maybe worth it if it's passively cooled. But don't think it will sell at MSRP.MSRP is $249.
And here's the desktop 5050. Comes with GDDR6. MSRP is $249.
It's problem isn't even the 4060. The 5060 is in stock at its $300 MSRP all over the place, and it has twice the memory bandwidth and 50% more shaders than this thing for only 20% more money.
This should be a $200 card, $250 is laughable.
4N is hardly bleeding edge at this point. I don't see a size listed, but GB206 was slightly smaller than AD106 with the same number of cores so you'd have to assume that a 2560 core GB207 is going to be smaller than a 3072 core 159mm² AD107. If margins at $250 are bad for this card they must be terrible on the 5060 even being a cut card.Margins probally not great even at $250. Have to be on a cheap node for $200.
4N is hardly bleeding edge at this point.
It's problem isn't even the 4060. The 5060 is in stock at its $300 MSRP all over the place, and it has twice the memory bandwidth and 50% more shaders than this thing for only 20% more money.
This should be a $200 card, $250 is laughable.
So it uses more power than a 4060, has less memory than a 3060, let's hope its good at something otherwise what's the point? I get that it helps to upsell to the 5060 but... its just sorta gross. Make the 3060 12GB $199 MSRP on cheap sand and be done with it.
Just call it the 3060 Super 12.OEMs want new products.
Yeah, whatever. Pretty sure the marketing department can figure something out.Just call it the 3060 Super 12.
You're right to highlight this issue — it’s a valid concern.
If your primary GPU fails or there's a firmware/driver issue that causes a black screen on boot, and your system doesn’t have an integrated GPU (iGPU) — like many AMD Zen 3 CPUs or Intel F-series chips — then you're effectively locked out of troubleshooting unless you have a secondary GPU available.
This is why I keep a passively cooled GT 1030 around. I also have passively cooled PCI and AGP cards for troubleshooting older systems. To each their own I suppose.This isn't NVidia exclusive. I would never buy a CPU without an iGPU, because you can always have a GPU failure and be without a backup while you resolve it.
When I was deciding which budget CPU to get, I went with a i5-12400 because of it's integrated GPU. A 5600 might have been a slightly better gaming GPU, but the lack of iGPU was a non starter, and the 5600G had worse PCIe and cache as tradeoff to get the iGPU.
I'm glad AMD started adding a minimal GPU to all their CPUs now.