Nvidia can't stop making money

[n0x1ous]

Second consecutive quarter with record revenue.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8973/nvidia-releases-q4-fy-2015-and-full-year-results-record-revenue-for-quarter-and-full-year\

Everything up except Tegra in mobile devices. Tegra in automotive doing well though

 

[PC Master Race]

I could care less about monetary figures. I rather the PC gaming industry as a whole move positively forward.

 

[96Firebird]

I'm curious as to how Tegra is used in the automotive industry. Time to go do some tech reading...

 

[EXCellR8]

...I rather the PC gaming industry as a whole move positively forward.

i don't see that happening unless some of the smaller developers stop being cannibalized. we need fresh talent and more new projects, regardless of hardware. and i don't mean 100 new half-finished indie projects a week on Steam either...

 

[cmdrdredd]

i don't see that happening unless some of the smaller developers stop being cannibalized. we need fresh talent and more new projects, regardless of hardware. and i don't mean 100 new half-finished indie projects a week on Steam either...

I agree. The hardware is sound, the development end isn't. There's no exclusives either. Everything is available on consoles these days it seems. Plus as you said there's too many projects released as early access or as I call it, paid beta.

I don't think the state of GPUs is dire at all.

 

[n0x1ous]

I could care less about monetary figures. I rather the PC gaming industry as a whole move positively forward.

That's great. Feel free to ignore this thread and not post in it. oh and its "couldn't" care less

 

[n0x1ous]

I'm curious as to how Tegra is used in the automotive industry. Time to go do some tech reading...

I know they have a major partnership with Audi. It powers the infotainment system etc etc....Jensen is a bigtime car guy so he really enjoys being in this market I think.

 

[EXCellR8]

I agree. The hardware is sound, the development end isn't. There's no exclusives either. Everything is available on consoles these days it seems. Plus as you said there's too many projects released as early access or as I call it, paid beta.

I don't think the state of GPUs is dire at all.

I will admit that I love turning on my PS4 and playing a game without worrying about system requirements, but the games industry is far too saturated with overhyped and underdeveloped console titles and poorly optimized PC ports; has been for several years now.

 

[tential]

I will admit that I love turning on my PS4 and playing a game without worrying about system requirements, but the games industry is far too saturated with overhyped and underdeveloped console titles and poorly optimized PC ports; has been for several years now.

Gameworks is the major reason I am wondering whether I want to continue PC Gaming right now.
If we start working towards a point where you essentially have to own Nvidia GPUs in order to play Gameworks games then I may give up PC Gaming. Don't want to be held hostage by one vendor on both CPU and GPU moving forward on PC. Would rather just get used to whatever these weak consoles offer me.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Good news for Nvidia no doubt, but we are well on our way to a monopoly in GPUs. Not looking forward to that.

 

[at80eighty]

That's great. Feel free to ignore this thread and not post in it. oh and its "couldn't" care less

Dude's not wrong you know. PC games *are* stagnating
btw: it is "it's"

 

[SPBHM]

that's good for them, maybe Intel should be investing more on GPUs

 

[n0x1ous]

Dude's not wrong you know. PC games *are* stagnating
btw: it is "it's"

not the point. the thread is about nvidia's financial quarter. If you don't like the topic just stay out of the thread instead of derailing.

 

[at80eighty]

ok so are you looking to discuss EPS, dividends etc? please clarify, as i'm not getting the hostility

 

[PC Master Race]

"couldn't" care less

Oh that's right you got the message I meant that I could not care less about how rich nvidia is getting. Sorry for the mix up. Now let's hope nvidia invest's allot of money and resources into making the video gaming industry as a whole much better than it was in the past.

 

[garagisti]

Oh that's right you got the message I meant that I could not care less about how rich nvidia is getting. Sorry for the mix up. Now let's hope nvidia invest's allot of money and resources into making the video gaming industry as a whole much better than it was in the past.

I was about to say that if only 'GameWorks' start working properly, now that we know that they could definitely afford to make it so. By the way, i'm happy for their employees. I'm just a wee bit let down by how they treated their customers with a problem created by Nvidia themselves, and it is not that Nvidia couldn't afford to redress it either.

 

[Mondozei]

With the death of TSMC's 20 nm, AMD only has the 14 nm of GloFo/Samsung left, but Nvidia is moving there, too.

Will the 300-series be that much better than the 900-series? Maybe. But will it crush GM200?

AMD is the best sub-300 dollar offering. On 1440p, according to computer base's performance index, the 290X is a mere 9.5% behind the 980.
AMD's drivers are now de facto better than Nvidia's.

But all of this is because they have to be better. We are moving towards a monopoly in the GPU market which would mean slower progress and higher prices. The next time you have a VRAM scandal, there won't be an alternative to turn to. And that isn't good for anyone except Nvidia's bottom line.

AMD's Lisa Su has the background to pull this off, because AMD's problem in recent years that they had too many non-technical people in leadership positions(hello - and goodbye - John Byrne!) and a lot of their past CEOs weren't that smart, to be brutally honest. Lisa is the first AMD CEO in a long time to match and possibly exceed the deep technical expertise of Jen-Hsun.
Time will tell if that is enough, but at least its a strong step in the right direction.

I continue to hope that Intel jumps into the dGPU space. If Intel has branched out into SSDs they can do the same for dGPUs. They are investing a lot more into graphics technology these days anyway, both for their integrated stuff as well as for their mobile SoCs. The jump wouldn't be as large as it would, say, 5 years ago.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Thread title is not very professional to be honest.

 

[Mondozei]

i don't see that happening unless some of the smaller developers stop being cannibalized. we need fresh talent and more new projects, regardless of hardware. and i don't mean 100 new half-finished indie projects a week on Steam either...

Except that PC gaming hasn't been stronger than for a very long time, which is reflected in Nvidia's numbers.

I agree. The hardware is sound, the development end isn't. There's no exclusives either. Everything is available on consoles these days it seems. Plus as you said there's too many projects released as early access or as I call it, paid beta.

I don't think the state of GPUs is dire at all.

No exclusives? PC has more exclusives than all the consoles combined has had that consistently for years running.

 

[jackstar7]

Gameworks is the major reason I am wondering whether I want to continue PC Gaming right now.
If we start working towards a point where you essentially have to own Nvidia GPUs in order to play Gameworks games then I may give up PC Gaming. Don't want to be held hostage by one vendor on both CPU and GPU moving forward on PC.

Don't forget they also want to lock you into monitor as well via g-sync.

Certainly reasonable for a company to want to grab hold of as much of the experience and reduce variables in a market where variables are rampant. Heck AMD was trying it with ram and ssds if I recall properly.

Hopefully AMD can deliver on perf/$ this year and folks are swayed to give them a chance. While stagnation in the game developers is a problem, it'd be nothing compared to stagnation on the hardware side if AMD can't win back some customers.

 

[at80eighty]

Hopefully AMD can deliver on perf/$ this year and folks are swayed to give them a chance. While stagnation in the game developers is a problem, it'd be nothing compared to stagnation on the hardware side if AMD can't win back some customers.

Agreed. with the generational changes for various components, i'll be in the market to build a new rig by Q3/Q4 - it will be nice to see the 300 series be a truly compelling offering, or i'll have to revert back to Nvidia for this round; and i'd much rather give the competition my dollars if possible

 

[frozentundra123456]

I agree. The hardware is sound, the development end isn't. There's no exclusives either. Everything is available on consoles these days it seems. Plus as you said there's too many projects released as early access or as I call it, paid beta.

I don't think the state of GPUs is dire at all.

I agree. I am dont think we should hold nVidia responsible for year after year of COD or BF reruns, the complete lack of RTS games, and the console first mentality of pretty much every major developer.

 

[Red Hawk]

I agree. The hardware is sound, the development end isn't. There's no exclusives either. Everything is available on consoles these days it seems. Plus as you said there's too many projects released as early access or as I call it, paid beta.

I don't think the state of GPUs is dire at all.

I wouldn't say there are no exclusives. The strategy and MMORPG genres are pretty much still PC-exclusive. For the former seems everyone prefers to play strategy games on keyboard and mouse rather than gamepads (despite concerted efforts, like Halo Wars), and for the latter the online infrastructure on consoles has never gotten to the point that developers are willing to make MMORPGs on them.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I agree. I am dont think we should hold nVidia responsible for year after year of COD or BF reruns, the complete lack of RTS games, and the console first mentality of pretty much every major developer.

What's weird is... all those console games run on AMD graphics hardware. You would think that they (AMD) would shout that from the rooftops, and use that fact to leverage their PC GPU business. At least more than just a quick mention in one of their "The Fixer" videos.

But I guess NV has better dev relations, and once "GameWorks" gets a hold of the newest titles, features and performance of the PC ports get dropped for AMD GPUs.

 

[PC Master Race]

While stagnation in the game developers is a problem, it'd be nothing compared to stagnation on the hardware side if AMD can't win back some customers.

AMDs R9 290 series and the 280s are doing great and have phenomenal value for money. Actually AMDs whole current line up has great performance for money. Problem is that AMD does not have the marketing department that nvidia has.