NVIDIA NV30 & NV40 Scoopage: Details

[kami]

what did the Ti 4600 debut at? 300 bucks right? Any guesses as to what kind of price range we're talking about for the NV30? I hope to god it isn't 400+ like that parhelia nonsense

I bet the NV30 will be around 300 bucks as well for a 128meg model....and of course they'll have a "value line" similar to today's Ti4200 that will offer 85-90% of the performance out of the box and sell like hotcakes.

This thing looks freakin sweet. Fully double the speed of a Ti4600 is quite a feat...one ATI is gonna have trouble with. 4X FSAA without a hit is nice too

 

[Agent004]

Also what is now known is that the NV30 is multi chip capable. The number of chips is an odd number. That's all I can say without giving out the exact number. I'll say this though. It's under 8.

Under 8 and an odd number, it's 7

How big will the card be with a 7 chip config? I don't want to imagine :Q

 

[kami]

Originally posted by: Agent004

Also what is now known is that the NV30 is multi chip capable. The number of chips is an odd number. That's all I can say without giving out the exact number. I'll say this though. It's under 8.

Under 8 and an odd number, it's 7

How big will the card be with a 7 chip config? I don't want to imagine :Q

Voodoo5 6000 anyone? that thing was a beast, and required an external 100 watt power supply.

 

[murphy55d]

NV30 + Clawhammer = drool.

 

[WarmAndSCSI]

omg suwheet!

 

[kgraeme]

1 is also an odd number that is under 8.

 

[paralazarguer]

The difference between 2x and 4x is almost negligible

You obviously haven't tried both of these settings in "The Longest Journey"

 

[kami]

So is there anything "special" about this firewire port? They say it's related to the mpeg2 acceleration?? how?? If it's just a plain old firewire port than I would rather have a card without one. For people like me who already have dedicated firewire cards it's useless and just adds more cost.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Geez. This place would have no life without rumor! NVXX sounds nice, but will it be affordable? It's all BS until Anand reviews it!

 

[Czar]

The hardware keeps getting better and better while the software is at least 2 years behind

 

[kami]

Originally posted by: Czar
The hardware keeps getting better and better while the software is at least 2 years behind

Partially true...the new unreal engine is fairly demanding, but it won't be until Doom3 that we get to fully take advantage of all this semi-unused technology we have under our belts waiting to be used.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: kami
So is there anything "special" about this firewire port? They say it's related to the mpeg2 acceleration?? how?? If it's just a plain old firewire port than I would rather have a card without one. For people like me who already have dedicated firewire cards it's useless and just adds more cost.

what, all of $0.50? for people who like firewire this is a good thing, since it means more computers will have it, what with the audigy and now the nv30 having it built in. USB 2.0 isn't gonna roll firewire like certain people around here think.

 

[Zugzwang152]

Sounds sweet but will likely cost about $900.

Just how are they going to get ANY mainstream enthusiast business with a card that costs 900 bucks?

 

[kami]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: kami
So is there anything "special" about this firewire port? They say it's related to the mpeg2 acceleration?? how?? If it's just a plain old firewire port than I would rather have a card without one. For people like me who already have dedicated firewire cards it's useless and just adds more cost.

what, all of $0.50? for people who like firewire this is a good thing, since it means more computers will have it, what with the audigy and now the nv30 having it built in. USB 2.0 isn't gonna roll firewire like certain people around here think.

Uhh, i think implementing a firewire port onto a vid card might be a bit more than 50 cents...and it certainly would translate to more than 50 cents in retail prices if you ask me. Yeah it is good to get firewire used more though since it tromps USB.

But will it take up an extra IRQ? Not sure how that would work....

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: kami

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: kami
So is there anything "special" about this firewire port? They say it's related to the mpeg2 acceleration?? how?? If it's just a plain old firewire port than I would rather have a card without one. For people like me who already have dedicated firewire cards it's useless and just adds more cost.

what, all of $0.50? for people who like firewire this is a good thing, since it means more computers will have it, what with the audigy and now the nv30 having it built in. USB 2.0 isn't gonna roll firewire like certain people around here think.

Uhh, i think implementing a firewire port onto a vid card might be a bit more than 50 cents...and it certainly would translate to more than 50 cents in retail prices if you ask me. Yeah it is good to get firewire used more though since it tromps USB.

But will it take up an extra IRQ? Not sure how that would work....

all my stuff works on 1 IRQ anyway. maybe $2. i doubt it significantly changes MSRP. nvidia seems to shoot for certain prices, say, 199, 299, 399.

 

[tcrosson]

We all know where multiple chips took 3Dfx...

 

[Athlon4all]

hmmmm, I would take any rumor with a grain of salt. I'll wait to hear it from the horse's mouth, but it does look impressive.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Man this is even more vague and further down the road than the mostly BS ATI specs that have been floating around a while. It certainly has all you nVidia kidz wet though!

I bet we won't see this until 2003 if it's anywhere near the performance claims. Anyway, it'd be nice if there were confirmed specs by the time I wanted to buy my R300 so I would know whether to hold off or not.


EDIT: Maybe with a 7 processor graphics card you could have your computer in a rackmount configuration: 1 for the main system and 1 for the video card.

 

[DainB]

The multichip solution isn't what killed 3DFX, it was the snubbing of all 3rd party vendors and moving things in house that did it. Multiple GPUs is a great idea, if you need more performance then make a board with an extra chip. Voila! It's faster and you've got a new price point for your customers. Besides, if you think a multi chip solutions are bad, were you gaming around the days of the Voodoo 2? We're talking three seperate boards alltogether. One 2d video card, two 3d voodoo two cards both of which were larger than your video card. A pass through cable on the back connecting the video card to one of the voodoos, a SLI cable in your case connecting the two voodoos. 300+ dollars each. You could get away with just one voodoo but that wouldn't be acceptable!

 

[galt]

Solomon - I pulled the news post due to the request of our source and not from Nvidia as the information was too accurate and could be pointed back to it/her/him. Yeah, like we would fold if Nvidia's great PR clan told us to remove it! LOL I respect his decision and pulled the information.

So the "it/him/her" is really a "him" then?

 

[rickn]

why the hell do i need another firewire port to suck up irq resources when I have one on my audigy that doesn't even get used.

 

[PuppettMaster001]

I hope it lives up to the hype.

 

[Mavrick007]

Originally posted by: kami

Originally posted by: Agent004

Also what is now known is that the NV30 is multi chip capable. The number of chips is an odd number. That's all I can say without giving out the exact number. I'll say this though. It's under 8.

Under 8 and an odd number, it's 7

How big will the card be with a 7 chip config? I don't want to imagine :Q

Voodoo5 6000 anyone? that thing was a beast, and required an external 100 watt power supply.

I would not expect more than 3 if it's an odd number. The 3dfx 6000 beast had 4 gpus on it and it was huge not to mention it was a power monger. Where would you expect to put all the gpus as well as everything else? I am surprised that they would even put more than 2 on a pcb at this stage.. but they do have 3dfx engineers behind them working on a new configuration so anything might be possible.

I knew the next generation would be the one to look for in nVidia and from what I see so far, I can't wait.

 

[vash]

Multi chip solutions is an "evil" to some and welcome to others, but lets face it, its going to happen.

Chips run hot, putting more onto a chip takes time and money. So, why not develop a chip that is fully scaleable when you add multiple GPUs to the mix (I'm guessing the cards will come with 3-5 GPUs). Instead of putting A LOT of effort into one chip that conquers all (and costs plenty of cash), bring out some chip that is pretty fast, but when combined with more of itself, will yield 100% gains.

Heck, lets look at theoretical results of doubling the ti4600. Doubling the performance of that one chip will gain some serious speed in 4X AA. Add one more chip and we're nearly at 0% hit when enabling 4X AA at high resolutions. The possibilities are nearly endless when it comes to adding chips, but cost and space keeps it down a bit.

Nvidia has a good track record for performance and staying on schedule, I wouldn't be surprised of this was all true.

vash

 

[ObiDon]

Multi chip solutions is an "evil" to some and welcome to others, but lets face it, its going to happen.

Woohoo! Then we can have "It takes X# of your GPUs to equal/better just one of ours!" arguments again! I'm there!