NVIDIA Unleashes Detonator 40

[murphy55d]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: vetteguy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Ha! The nVidiots are already drooling over the prospect of the Det. 40s some how magically reclaiming the performance crown.

I'm assuming that this comment is in some way beneficial to the conversation involving people who have tried/will be trying new Detonator drivers.

You mean to tell me that when you saw this thread this morning, you didn't say to yourself, "woohoo! I wonder if these will boost the GF4 over the 9700?"

I didn't. I don't plan on buying one and these drivers will help what card I have RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW, I am running a little faster in the gpu department than I was an hour ago. Free performance boost is a GOOD thing. ATi fans hype up the Catalyst drivers but when nVidia puts out new ones, anyone who uses them is an nVidiot who thinks these will change their card into a 9700 killer?

Please.

 

[DanFungus]

*sniff*...I don't know whether to try them or not...So far, it's been that anything over 28.32 really kills my system, like making it not boot properly. I have to go into safe mode, uninstall nvidia drivers, reinstall 28.32 drivers. I wonder wtf is wrong with my Geforce3

 

[vetteguy]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: vetteguy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Ha! The nVidiots are already drooling over the prospect of the Det. 40s some how magically reclaiming the performance crown.

I'm assuming that this comment is in some way beneficial to the conversation involving people who have tried/will be trying new Detonator drivers.

You mean to tell me that when you saw this thread this morning, you didn't say to yourself, "woohoo! I wonder if these will boost the GF4 over the 9700?"

Umm...no I didn't...because
a. I have a 4600 that I just bought and won't be upgrading for a while,
b. don't care about the 9700 (or any other Radeon) and couldn't care less if my card "beats" it, and
c. am not out to "get" ATI owners, because all I care about is getting the best performance out of the card I OWN.

 

[Furor]

pretty nice drivers..went from 11354 with 2x AF to 12191 with 2x AF..it still isn't like ATI's though..image quality appears to be the same..

I need to format soon as well..my hard drive is very congested with radeon, s3, and nvidia drivers..

 

[WyteWatt]

GTaudiophile i didn't that either. All you are doing is trying to start a flame war in here which is not good. All was expected is a good 400 point increase if that i never expected a 1000 point increase at all. Espically with my sdram which is my weak part of my system that i need to upgrade as soon as possible. I didn't expect it to beat the ATI 9700 at all.


How high do you all get up to in nature btw with the new drivers because i know a lot of you are on DDR ram. I am guessing 120 to 125 fps.

 

[Random Variable]

They won't work under Windows 98SE?

 

[murphy55d]

Originally posted by: vetteguy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: vetteguy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Ha! The nVidiots are already drooling over the prospect of the Det. 40s some how magically reclaiming the performance crown.

I'm assuming that this comment is in some way beneficial to the conversation involving people who have tried/will be trying new Detonator drivers.

You mean to tell me that when you saw this thread this morning, you didn't say to yourself, "woohoo! I wonder if these will boost the GF4 over the 9700?"

Umm...no I didn't...because
a. I have a 4600 that I just bought and won't be upgrading for a while,
b. don't care about the 9700 (or any other Radeon) and couldn't care less if my card "beats" it, and
c. am not out to "get" ATI owners, because all I care about is getting the best performance out of the card I OWN.

Couldn't have said it better myself. (cept I have a 4200 instead of a 4600)

 

[murphy55d]

Originally posted by: Vespasian
They won't work under Windows 98SE?

Nope. Just 2k/XP for now.

 

[QuestionsandAnsweres]

I gained about 1000 3dmark 2k1 scores.

from 10650 to around 11650

but i did notice image quality was worse in the dragothic test. It seems to be refrash problem. But i know i didnt have that problem before. But on every other test i didnt see any image quality problems.

Gonna try other games later

 

[boyRacer]

bah... my score is 6400... i'm guessing without these drivers... it would still be around 6000... this thing probably helps out GF4s more... i think i need to upgrade...

 

[Czar]

Anand, if you read this then could you pretty please do a comparison of the new and old drivers and how this goes against the radeon 9700 pro.
I suppose this is what nVidia is doing to compete with the new Radeon, since this comes out around the same time.


What to buy what to buy

 

[RanDum72]

The most noticeable increase is under the 'Nature' scene. I'm getting almost 100fps on some bursts. It seems like Nvidia fully activated the pixel shaders.

 

[LukFilm]

I got 400 point increase from 7745 to 8101, not bad for GF3 Ti200, this is also the first time I broke 8000

 

[vetteguy]

Man, this is killing me. I actually had 2 of my PCs at work up until the other day...I could have installed already!!!

 

[Sunner]

Nice, if these push the GF4's further above the GF3's, I might just pick up that cheap Gainward Ti4200 I've been looking at.

R9700 is too expensive around here to be worth it, over $500, but a $180 GF4 might be a worthy upgrade

Waiting to see someone put up a driver comparison first though, showing what they can do for GF3's and GF4's.

 

[Mem]

Ok got them installed finally,remember to remove the old ones first since I couldn`t get the Geforce 2 tab to work had "DDL error"so I removed the drivers and did a clean driver install,working fine now (yes I know I should of removed the old ones first but was too lazy )btw anybody got NVRefresh tool program to work,when I tried I notice after applying the custom settings & reboot it does not work and some of my res settings were missing like 1280x960 so had to reinstall the 40.41 drivers again to fix that.Just need to get the NVRefresh fix working now.

 

[Doctorweir]

<= smells to beat the 10K Barrier after being home from work
Now 9500...plus 1000...hmm, hmm...

 

[Supafreak]

nice....

 

[Goi]

Erm, why are you guys only posting your 3DMark results? That's just a benchmark rather than a real game, you can't really play it. Heck, I think some of you don't even look at it while its taking its time benchmarking, so while its nice to have a quantifiable increase in a popular benchmark, why aren't you guys trying it out on REAL games that you can actually play. I mean, do you really care for new drivers if they increased your 3DMark score but showed no noticable gains in real games?

Hasn't anyone benched this yet on Q3A, JK2, RtCW, SS2, etc?

 

[murphy55d]

Originally posted by: Goi
Erm, why are you guys only posting your 3DMark results? That's just a benchmark rather than a real game, you can't really play it. Heck, I think some of you don't even look at it while its taking its time benchmarking, so while its nice to have a quantifiable increase in a popular benchmark, why aren't you guys trying it out on REAL games that you can actually play. I mean, do you really care for new drivers if they increased your 3DMark score but showed no noticable gains in real games?

Hasn't anyone benched this yet on Q3A, JK2, RtCW, SS2, etc?

I don't own any of those games. 3dmark is the only benchmark I have to go by. The 2 games I'm playing right now are Neverwinter Nights and Madden 2003. Haven't tried either one yet so I can't say how much of a visual impact these drivers have.

 

[sharkeeper]

Hmmm...

Since when did nvidia start posting beta drivers on their site for download? These are beta drivers!

Detonator 40 is the beta graphics driver for all NVIDIA Graphics Processing Units (GPUs). Detonator 40 supports 2D graphics, DirectX 8.1, OpenGL 1.4, nView Desktop Management software version 2.0, NVRotate. NVKeystone, Digital Vibrance Control and includes a new control panel and the CineFX emulator. Through NVIDIA?s Unified Driver Architecture, Detonator software supports all GPUs below in a single driver.

:Q

Cheers!

 

[vetteguy]

Originally posted by: Goi
Erm, why are you guys only posting your 3DMark results? That's just a benchmark rather than a real game, you can't really play it. Heck, I think some of you don't even look at it while its taking its time benchmarking, so while its nice to have a quantifiable increase in a popular benchmark, why aren't you guys trying it out on REAL games that you can actually play. I mean, do you really care for new drivers if they increased your 3DMark score but showed no noticable gains in real games?

Hasn't anyone benched this yet on Q3A, JK2, RtCW, SS2, etc?

I seem to see this argument a lot, about how we "shouldn't care about our 3DMark scores", because we "don't play 3DMark". I will agree with you that the acid test is how well our system performs in the games we play, but benchmarks EXIST so we have some way of judging how well our setups relate to others, and also it is a common way to measure performance (hence, "benchmark"). It is a way of giving us real numbers so we can compare our setup to someone else's. Obviously in the end all that matters is how our games perform, but at least 3DMark gives us something share with the group. It's an easy way to give objective performance results for varying systems.

 

[WyteWatt]

Ok with the 40.41 drivers in quake 3 arena at 1024x768 full details with no AF i get 164 to 165 fps. With 8x AF i get around 150 to 152 fps so not that big of a lost of fps on 8x AF it seems so far. 4x FSAA did have a pretty big increase but seemed alittle improved.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: murphy55d

Originally posted by: vetteguy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: vetteguy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Ha! The nVidiots are already drooling over the prospect of the Det. 40s some how magically reclaiming the performance crown.

I'm assuming that this comment is in some way beneficial to the conversation involving people who have tried/will be trying new Detonator drivers.

You mean to tell me that when you saw this thread this morning, you didn't say to yourself, "woohoo! I wonder if these will boost the GF4 over the 9700?"

Umm...no I didn't...because
a. I have a 4600 that I just bought and won't be upgrading for a while.
b. I don't care about the 9700 (or any other Radeon) and couldn't care less if my card "beats" it, and
c. am not out to "get" ATI owners, because all I care about is getting the best performance out of the card I OWN.

Couldn't have said it better myself. (cept I have a 4200 instead of a 4600)

Anand, if you read this then could you pretty please do a comparison of the new and old drivers and how this goes against the radeon 9700 pro.
I suppose this is what nVidia is doing to compete with the new Radeon, since this comes out around the same time.

Someone did.

And I too would be interested to see how these much these drivers improve actual game performance. ("up to 25%")
3DMark2001 is getting pretty old - even for a benchmark.

 

[WyteWatt]

sharkeeper yep they are beta drivers but they work really well! No bugs at all so far.