Obama lied about Benghazi

[IBMer]

At the hands of terrorists? If those four deaths in that minute were murders, don't you think they should be investigated to the fullest extent possible? And, if they were the result of negligence, shouldn't those responsible for said negligence be held accountable?

At minimum, shouldn't those murderers be found and brought to justice?

You do realize that the Benghazi attack resulted in the the first murder of a US Ambassador in over three decades, right?

Those of you who are downplaying or outright dismissing this attack make me f'n sick...

Where is the uproar and investigations and Bengazigate for the other diplomat that died?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/us/us-diplomat-killed-on-afghan-mission-she-coveted.html?_r=0

 

[Matt1970]

Where is the uproar and investigations and Bengazigate for the other diplomat that died?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/us/us-diplomat-killed-on-afghan-mission-she-coveted.html?_r=0

Do we have an anyone trying to blame it on a YouTube video? Was she in a firefight for her life and refused help for over 7 hours?

 

[Thebobo]

You moron. 4 Americans are dead and you don't care to find out what happened?

Pathetic.

I know what happened they got attacked and killed.

What's truly sad is that 4,409 American servicemen died in iraq due to our president and his staff perpetuating a lie about weapons of mass destruction and over 110 thousand up to a million plus civilians died because of his illegal invasion of a sovran country no matter how screwed up it was.

Seriously you didn't care to find out that happened then? Thats 4000+ people were talking about, not to mention the civilians AND the billions of wasted dollars in the time of the worst depression since the great depression of the 30s.

Where was and where is the rage now? Why are these people not in jail.

Now that imo is pathetic.

 

[Matt1970]

I know what happened they got attacked and killed.

What's truly sad is that 4,409 American servicemen died in iraq due to our president and his staff perpetuating a lie about weapons of mass destruction and over 110 thousand up to a million plus civilians died because of his illegal invasion of a sovran country no matter how screwed up it was.

Seriously you didn't care to find out that happened then? Thats 4000+ people were talking about, not to mention the civilians AND the billions of wasted dollars in the time of the worst depression since the great depression of the 30s.

Where was and where is the rage now? Why are these people not in jail.

Now that imo is pathetic.

Do you even see anyone defending the Bush lies like you see people here defending the Obama lies?

 

[umbrella39]

/this

/reading waggy posts Way to quote and agree with that POS parodytroll! See below.

 

[Incorruptible]

/this


to many are willing to ignore this. or buy the line the govenment is giving "it was long ago" etc. fuck that

it needs to be investigation and found out why/how this happened. I said the same with the BS "information" that lead to teh war. Though it seems it was bad intelligence. if so why wasn't it double and triple checked?

They only ignore this because it's more important to protect their guy.

If bush did this then there should be an investigation and he should be punished but the left would want to punish him because he was bush only but protect obama.

 

[Matt1970]

Thanks buddy. All this time I thought they were lies, now with your help I know they are called "plausible alternative explanation"

Oh I forgot, If you don't like the "plausible alternative explanation" definition of a lie you can always go with "handled the public communications poorly"

 

[Incorruptible]

/reading waggy posts Way to quote and agree with that POS parodytroll! See below.

The only POS is you. Just STFU already unless you have something important to say.

 

[IGBT]

CIA director David Petraeus was surprised when he read the freshly rewritten talking points an aide had emailed him in the early afternoon of Saturday, September 15. One day earlier, analysts with the CIA’s Office of Terrorism Analysis had drafted a set of unclassified talking points policymakers could use to discuss the attacks in Benghazi, Libya. But this new version​—​produced with input from senior Obama administration policymakers​—​was a shadow of the original. CNN News.

 

[palehorse]

Where is the uproar and investigations and Bengazigate for the other diplomat that died?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/us/us-diplomat-killed-on-afghan-mission-she-coveted.html?_r=0

Strawman... here's why:
1. We all know what happened to her. Nobody lied to cover it up or change the story.
2. Diplomat != Ambassador
3. There are tens of thousands of troops in Afghanistan hunting the terrorists who did it.

But, of course, you already knew all that before you decided to post yet another strawman...

 

[Attic]

A perverse unwillingness to hold one's ownside accountable is common. Ultimately destructive though for the country and both parties.

Somebody needs to figure out how to show everybody that the majority of us are closer than the two party system would lead us to believe. As it stands now we are ushered apart, for the benefit of a few.

 

[Bowfinger]

Strawman... here's why:
1. We all know what happened to her. Nobody lied to cover it up or change the story.
2. Diplomat != Ambassador
3. There are tens of thousands of troops in Afghanistan hunting the terrorists who did it.

But, of course, you already knew all that before you decided to post yet another strawman...

You might want to learn what a straw man is, and that isn't one. You might make a case for red herring, though he's not really making an argument so much as calling out hypocrisy.


Edit: re. #3, are you suggesting we don't have people hunting for the terrorists who attacked us in Benghazi? If so, please cite credible sources backing that bold claim. Or, if that's not what you're suggesting, you can drop #3 from your list of differences between the two attacks.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

You have to add the extremely right leaning ABC News to that.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...t-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/

Well, you are one of the leading right wing trolls here repeating the approved talking points, so I guess you are the expert when it comes to that.

What does Drudge or whoever tell you to outraged about today? Again, where was your faux outrage for all those other attacks?

 

[Attic]

It was clearly a strawman.

Obnoxious also covers it.

Edit: Removed unnecessary crap.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Strawman... here's why:
1. We all know what happened to her. Nobody lied to cover it up or change the story.
2. Diplomat != Ambassador
3. There are tens of thousands of troops in Afghanistan hunting the terrorists who did it.

But, of course, you already knew all that before you decided to post yet another strawman...

So when Bush publicly lied about not water-boarding....I guess that should have had a congressional hearing right?

I mean he lied publicly and often about water-boarding....where is your faux outrage for that? i don't recall you screaming about investigations then.

Oh right....Fox said it was OK, and Fox says this isn't.

 

[Bowfinger]

Do you even see anyone defending the Bush lies like you see people here defending the Obama lies?

Have you been in a coma since 2001? Your ignorance of history and current events is just as bad as your poor reading comprehension. You're giving Incorruptible a run for the "Dumbest Guy in P&N" award.

 

[Incorruptible]

Have you been in a coma since 2001? Your ignorance of history and current events is just as bad as your poor reading comprehension. You're giving Incorruptible a run for the "Dumbest Guy in P&N" award.

STFU you piece of shit wise and beautiful woman. 4 Americans are dead and you're not interested in bringing those responsible to justice.

Dial it back - WAY back.
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[IGBT]

These were strong claims. The CIA usually qualifies its assessments, providing policymakers a sense of whether the conclusions of its analysis are offered with “high confidence,” “moderate confidence,” or “low confidence.” That first draft signaled confidence, even certainty: “We do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda participated in the attack.” ABC News.

 

[Bowfinger]

It was clearly a strawman.

Obnoxious also covers it.

Edit: Removed unnecessary crap.

No dear, because he was not misrepresenting an opponent's position, nor refuting one weak argument and then declaring he'd refuted all opposing arguments. He didn't address his opponents' argument at all. Instead, he was challenging them to explain why the response to one incident was so dramatically different from their (non-)response to the other.

 

[Attic]

Is anyone able to refute that available information in Benghazi was covered up?

 

[Bowfinger]

STFU you piece of shit wise and beautiful woman. 4 Americans are dead and you're not interested in bringing those responsible to justice.

On the contrary, twit-for-brains, unlike you and your bottom-feeding ilk, I am interested in bringing those responsible to justice. What you can't wrap your vegetable brain around is that those responsible are NOT in Washington D.C. They are presumably somewhere in the Middle East. The only reason you care about those four dead Americans is because you want to exploit them to attack Obama. You are a repugnant excuse for an American and a human being.

 

[Attic]

No dear, because he was not misrepresenting an opponent's position, nor refuting one weak argument and then declaring he'd refuted all opposing arguments. He didn't address his opponents' argument at all. Instead, he was challenging them to explain why the response to one incident was so dramatically different from their (non-)response to the other.

/agreed

/s

 

[Incorruptible]

On the contrary, twit-for-brains, unlike you and your bottom-feeding ilk, I am interested in bringing those responsible to justice. What you can't wrap your vegetable brain around is that those responsible are NOT in Washington D.C. They are presumably somewhere in the Middle East. The only reason you care about those four dead Americans is because you want to exploit them to attack Obama. You are a repugnant excuse for an American and a human being.

Considering that obama and clinton blamed the video when they knew it wasn't then they should be held responsible for this.

You are a repugnant excuse for an American and a human being.

 

[Bowfinger]

Is anyone able to refute that available information in Benghazi was covered up?

They certainly withheld information, purportedly for at least two reasons I discussed in an earlier post. Whether that constitutes a "cover up" or not seems to be more of a gray area, but the administration clearly wasn't forthcoming with everything they knew.

 

[Bowfinger]

Considering that obama and clinton blamed the video when they knew it wasn't then they should be held responsible for this.

You are a repugnant excuse for an American and a human being.

You're lying again SFB. Take it up with the CIA since their very first set of talking points stated that the attack appeared to have been triggered by the other uprisings associated with that "tape". Reading is hard, but it can be highly rewarding for those who don't want to be ignorant twits.