Oblivion benchmarked again.

[Golgatha]

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/oblivion_high-end_performance/

I love this quote...

"If today?s performance with Oblivion is any indication, these X1800 XT 256MB cards could become pretty hot sellers once they hit the market en masse, especially considering the shortage of GeForce 7900 GT cards on the market right now."

I have to call BS on this comment. The X1800XT 256MB is readily available at Newegg.com (and has been for a month) for $289 and the 512MB version is about $40-$50 more.

Edit: 04/06/2006 - Updated with Crossfire vs. SLI numbers. Textures still flash with ATI however. I wish the X1800XT Crossfire cards were more reasonably priced if ATI can correct this issue quickly.

 

[Frostwake]

What the hell, ati cards arent gaining any advantage from AA results, how come? Oblivion must be really poorly coded

 

[Soccerman06]

Originally posted by: Frostwake
What the hell, ati cards arent gaining any advantage from AA results, how come? Oblivion must be really poorly coded

Dont just look at the first 10x7 and think that ATI loses all benchmarks... scroll down to see 16x12

However, I do like how the 1900 Xfire performs worse than a single card. There is some bad programming in the drivers, not the game

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Frostwake
What the hell, ati cards arent gaining any advantage from AA results, how come? Oblivion must be really poorly coded

?????????????

 

[Munky]

Well, here we finally have an apples to apples comparison, and the looks like the x1900's win again.

 

[linkgoron]

Originally posted by: munky
Well, here we finally have an apples to apples comparison, and the looks like the x1900's win again.

Except CF. SLI is killing it, but in single card the x1900XTX is the winner.

 

[Soccerman06]

Originally posted by: linkgoron

Originally posted by: munky
Well, here we finally have an apples to apples comparison, and the looks like the x1900's win again.

Except CF. SLI is killing it, but in single card the x1900XTX is the winner.

poor drivers i believe is currently at fault

Edit: I seriously doubt that 7900GTX are getting near 100% increase in performance, look at the foilage benchy at 1600x1200 no aa/af:

7900GTX avg 20.3fps
7900GTX SLI avg 38.7fps
X1900XTX avg 27.3fps
X1900XTX Xfire avg 26.9fps

nuf said

 

[linkgoron]

Originally posted by: Soccerman06

Originally posted by: linkgoron

Originally posted by: munky
Well, here we finally have an apples to apples comparison, and the looks like the x1900's win again.

Except CF. SLI is killing it, but in single card the x1900XTX is the winner.

poor drivers i believe is currently at fault

Probably, but for now SLI is still the better solution.

 

[Golgatha]

I'm going to to out on a limb here. The X1800XT 256MB is the price/performance king right now as a single card solution. I've purchased equal amounts of nVidia and ATI cards, so please no fanboy comments. Just everything I've seen seems to indicate the X1800XT series was built for the future and the G70/71 is showing it's age. Here's to hoping G80 is revolutionary and stomps ATI so prices keep on crashing down.

Edit: Another out on a limb statement. SLI is easier to implement, less expensive, user configurable, and undisputedly performs better as a dual card solution. There, equal amounts of bashing. I'll gladly go with whichever company makes my computer "the fast".

 

[Todd33]

Wow, the X1800XT did better than the 7900GTX in about half the test. Also SLI stomped Xfire. Interesting results.

 

[Ackmed]

Yeah, SLI scales much, much better than Crossfire right now. That is one area where NV still has a clear lead. SLI went thru a maturation process, where a lot of games did not benefit from SLI (HArdOCP did an article), and it looks to be what ATi is going thru. I suspect it will get fixed in a driver update, but who knows. New ones are supposed to be out very soon, probably this week. Hopefully ATi fixes the Crossfire performance pretty fast, its a very popular game right now. As of now, Crossfire owners are getting hosed for Oblivion.

Originally posted by: Firingsquad
Breaking it down at the various price points, we?ve got to give the edge to NVIDIA by default at the $300 mark, simply because we?re still trying to get our hands on a 256MB Radeon X1800 XT card.

Do they live in a cave? The X1800XT is very easy to get, newegg has them in stock now, and has had them for several weeks. As have other e-stores. Not to mention cheaper than any GT.newegg has all four versions in stock right now. Then they have 5 versions of the 512MB in stock, with the lowest price at $329, which is where a lot of 7900GT's are. Why cant FS get their hands on one? They obviously are not trying.

This backs up bi-techs results, for single cards, ATi is the clear choice of card for Oblivion. Even the X1800XT beats the 7900GTX in some settings. And the X1800XT is much faster overall than the 7900GT.

 

[starwars7]

Why the difference between outdoor and indoor performance?

I've got a 7900 GT and it performs better than the 1800 inside, but worse outside.

 

[nitromullet]

This backs up bi-techs results, for single cards, ATi is the clear choice of card for Oblivion. Even the X1800XT beats the 7900GTX in some settings. And the X1800XT is much faster overall than the 7900GT.

Crossfire owners are getting hosed for Oblivion.

That about sums it up. I think if I was huge Oblivion fan, I'd pick up a $430ish X1900XT and call it a day.

 

[DeathReborn]

Looks like there's no need to replace my 7800GT SLI with 7900's just yet. I probably will in May though, can easily get 7900GTX performance from a 7900GT so that's where the bang for your buck is at the moment to me.

 

[FalllenAngell]

This is one game I wish they would have done the benches 0X0X as well, or maybe 2X8X. It looks like it can bring any rig to it's knees if you have a good monitor and want to crank the settings.

Single card about what I expected, X1900s mostly slightly ahead due to triple threat shaders.

Crossfire results very disappointing, more evidence that tech is in it's infancy/beta stage.

 

[Frostwake]

I mean... didnt anyone find strange that the results dont vary much from no AA to 4x AA? usually nvidia has a nice lead without AA and ati leads with it... unlike here

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Frostwake
I mean... didnt anyone find strange that the results dont vary much from no AA to 4x AA? usually nvidia has a nice lead without AA and ati leads with it... unlike here

Probably b/c HDR is turned on.

 

[darXoul]

OK, time to make decisions. Screw a new monitor. I'm sticking with my trusted Philips 109P4. GTX SLI, here I come.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: starwars7
Why the difference between outdoor and indoor performance?

I've got a 7900 GT and it performs better than the 1800 inside, but worse outside.

I have a sort similar situation with my x850xt. For all the complaining about outdoor framerates people have had, the outdoors has always run excellent for me.

Its when I get indoors with a lot of NPCs and junk around that my framerates start to feel a little rough sometimes.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Frostwake
I mean... didnt anyone find strange that the results dont vary much from no AA to 4x AA? usually nvidia has a nice lead without AA and ati leads with it... unlike here

Probably b/c HDR is turned on.

Yeah, wouldn't that stress the shaders a lot? Which is ATIs strength as well?

They didn't do any 0xaa 0xaf settings, but thats ok. I assume they were using bloom with the 4xaa 8xaf.

Man, the x1800xt seemed to really do well, was even hanging with the x1900 cards without trouble. I think I might keep an eye on those pricewise. I mostly play source engine and oblivion these days so ati seems to make sense for me.

Do you think the 512mb version they used would perform much differently from a 256mb version? I'd run it at 1024x768 or 1280x1024 most likely.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: FalllenAngell
This is one game I wish they would have done the benches 0X0X as well, or maybe 2X8X. It looks like it can bring any rig to it's knees if you have a good monitor and want to crank the settings.

Single card about what I expected, X1900s mostly slightly ahead due to triple threat shaders.

Crossfire results very disappointing, more evidence that tech is in it's infancy/beta stage.

Define "mostly slightly". It looked like a pretty big difference to me but maybe I don't know what "mostly slightly" means.

I will agree with you, however, about the disappointing Crossfire results. SLI pretty much thrashed it.

 

[Steelski]

Originally posted by: FalllenAngell
This is one game I wish they would have done the benches 0X0X as well, or maybe 2X8X. It looks like it can bring any rig to it's knees if you have a good monitor and want to crank the settings.

Single card about what I expected, X1900s mostly slightly ahead due to triple threat shaders.

Crossfire results very disappointing, more evidence that tech is in it's infancy/beta stage.

Well. you bougt SLI in its Infacy and raved about it.
I think the drivers are to blame once again. hopefully there will be a profile in cats 6.4

Alternativley, if they detect the game by the .exe then why doesent someone rename oblivion to something else. that might work.

 

[golem]

Well. you bougt SLI in its Infacy and raved about it.
I think the drivers are to blame once again. hopefully there will be a profile in cats 6.4

Alternativley, if they detect the game by the .exe then why doesent someone rename oblivion to something else. that might work.

But when SLI came out, there was nothing to compare it to. It was in a vacuum. Crossfire has to be compared to SLI, and in this case, it falls short.

 

[RobertR1]

The Ati cards (single card) really excel at oblivion. I'm hoping they can even get more performance as drivers mature. Since this is the game I forsee myself playing for many months to come (since it's HUGE) I'm quite happy with my choice.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: golem
But when SLI came out, there was nothing to compare it to. It was in a vacuum. Crossfire has to be compared to SLI, and in this case, it falls short.

I agree with this. NV had nothing to compare to. SLI was riddled with issues at launch. Today however, most are ironed out, and its much easier (and compatible) to use. Crossfire will now be compared to SLI, for many things. Thats what happens when you come out second.

Rumor is the 6.4 Cats will be out in a few days, and they fix the issue. Which would make all of these Crossfire numbers, useless. But as it is today, SLI is the much better multi-GPU (speed wise) choice for Oblivion. There is no doubt about that.

Brandons reply about the X1800XT comment.

As I've told you in the past, I still can't get my hands on any of
those X1800 XT 256MB boards listed on Newegg (not even the OEM
version), believe me I've tried.

Why cant he? Its not that hard. My little girl orders from the net now...