Perhaps this thread should be relabeled "The FX-8350 - the poor man's wanna be 3770k"
Can't be that poor if you can afford to keep it powered! :'(
Yep,this power draw argument is just silly. One standard light bulb draws 100W of power,each household has at least 4 or 5 of these running almost all the time. Then you have heating(electric),electric ovens, microwave ovens,water heaters and a bunch of electronics besides the PC(TV,sound systems,etc.). All of these make a CPU power draw difference a mere noise in the power bill. Turn off one light or buy a few "green" power friendly light bulbs and voila, more power saved than what your "power hungry" PC could have done buy switching to lower power components. Note that PCs usually idle ,approx. 90% of the running time,so any difference in power draw will be miniscule.It costs more to keep my living room lights on every night than to keep my computer running while I'm home :\
Yep,this power draw argument is just silly. One standard light bulb draws 100W of power,each household has at least 4 or 5 of these running almost all the time. Then you have heating(electric),electric ovens, microwave ovens,water heaters and a bunch of electronics besides the PC(TV,sound systems,etc.). All of these make a CPU power draw difference a mere noise in the power bill. Turn off one light or buy a few "green" power friendly light bulbs and voila, more power saved than what your "power hungry" PC could have done buy switching to lower power components. Note that PCs usually idle ,approx. 90% of the running time,so any difference in power draw will be miniscule.
100 watt bulbs have been legislated out of existence and 60 watts were more ubiquitous anyway due to those 60-watters not being a fire hazard in most fixtures. Not to mention the gradual adoption of CFLs and LEDs.Yep,this power draw argument is just silly. One standard light bulb draws 100W of power,each household has at least 4 or 5 of these running almost all the time. Then you have heating(electric),electric ovens, microwave ovens,water heaters and a bunch of electronics besides the PC(TV,sound systems,etc.). All of these make a CPU power draw difference a mere noise in the power bill. Turn off one light or buy a few "green" power friendly light bulbs and voila, more power saved than what your "power hungry" PC could have done buy switching to lower power components. Note that PCs usually idle ,approx. 90% of the running time,so any difference in power draw will be miniscule.
I know that it was meant in jest, but the FX power draw shouldn't really be a factor for most buyers. Conversely, it's lower price isn't too much of a factor for many of us either. This isn't a "Get a better job" comment, but more to the nature that for for most of us computers are something of an irrational hobby, and we are talking about relatively small amounts of money for something we enjoy immensely and spend countless hours using. This is why the price/performance argument, while it can be a useful metric, tends to fall apart.
100 watt bulbs have been legislated out of existence and 60 watts were more ubiquitous anyway due to those 60-watters not being a fire hazard in most fixtures. Not to mention the gradual adoption of CFLs and LEDs.
A modern home uses around 3-4Kw/h per day with all appliances and light.
Tho 100W Lightblubs and FX chips do go hand in hand...
I know that it was meant in jest, but the FX power draw shouldn't really be a factor for most buyers. Conversely, it's lower price isn't too much of a factor for many of us either. This isn't a "Get a better job" comment, but more to the nature that for for most of us computers are something of an irrational hobby, and we are talking about relatively small amounts of money for something we enjoy immensely and spend countless hours using. This is why the price/performance argument, while it can be a useful metric, tends to fall apart.
It costs more to keep my living room lights on every night than to keep my computer running while I'm home :\
It was a joke guy. What isn't a joke is going with any FX processor over an Intel equivalent seems silly in almost all cases, with the exceptions being a very small subset of programs that may work better with it. If you aren't running these programs, and most people aren't, the price difference is as negligible if not more so than the power draw.
Yep,this power draw argument is just silly. One standard light bulb draws 100W of power,each household has at least 4 or 5 of these running almost all the time.
A "standard" light bulb for me is rated at 13W or so...
I'm in Europe and I've just checked my light bulbs(almost all incandescent). I stand corrected,I only have one 100W and it's in the pantry. The rest are either 60W or 75W plus I have a few special LED types in the living room (these are very economical) . PC's power draw is just not a big factor in overall power bill IMO. 100W in idle and up to 300W under load scenario is really not that much considering other devices and expenses one household usually has.A "standard" light bulb for me is rated at 13W or so...
The number you are quoting amount to 10$ monthly.....
You really have to ressort to blatant misleading and obvious
lies to make the FX so called high comsumption look as high
as possible...
I suggest you to post less in AMD related thread since you re
only here to spread some crappy viral marketing and really
no usefull POV....
I'm in Europe and I've just checked my light bulbs(almost all incandescent). I stand corrected,I only have one 100W and it's in the pantry. The rest are either 60W or 75W plus I have a few special LED types in the living room (these are very economical) . PC's power draw is just not a big factor in overall power bill IMO. 100W in idle and up to 300W under load scenario is really not that much considering other devices and expenses one household usually has.
Can't be that poor if you can afford to keep it powered! :'(
Does it draw more power than the 3770k? Absolutely. Is it less efficient? Sure. But when you go down the path of less power draw, perhaps I can ask those critics why they are using separate high end GPUs such as a GTX680 with their 3570k/3770k when, if they claim they want to be power efficient, they don't just use the IGPU built into their cpu? That would probably save as much $$$ as they contend I waste on the FX 8350.
I can buy them . I'm not in Denmark so we don't need to obey all EU regulations so strictly .If you live in Europe, you should know that its almost, if not already impossible to even buy those lightblubs anymore. That happend back in 2009.
Even in China you cant buy 100W blubs anymore, they got banned last october.
I can buy them . I'm not in Denmark so we don't need to obey all EU regulations so strictly .
Yes . Ain't it great?Its banned in the entire EU. So you need to live outside the EU then.
You get the most efficient there is. Not giving up on your lifestyle.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5699/45174.png
A regular 7970 would have been a worse solution there.
Else with your statement we should be using Atoms and Brazos.