The amd fans are the ones who incessantly cite selective benchmarks where amd is slightly ahead and consistently ignore the vast majority where they trail, sometimes by a wide margin.
Are we talking of multithread/multitask or of single thread/serial code.??.
Seems once something doesnt suit your spining theories you have
to bring again the single thread perf as the ultimate bench...
The amd fans are the ones who incessantly cite selective benchmarks where amd is slightly ahead and consistently ignore the vast majority where they trail, sometimes by a wide margin.
Hooray for confirmation bias.only intel fans feel the need to come into completely unrelarted threads and throw intel related benchmarks around.
The amd fans are the ones who incessantly cite selective benchmarks where amd is slightly ahead and consistently ignore the vast majority where they trail, sometimes by a wide margin.
only intel fans feel the need to come into completely unrelarted threads and throw intel related benchmarks around.
only intel fans feel the need to come into completely unrelarted threads and throw intel related benchmarks around.
Can't we leave it be and just let IDC do his thing and talk about that? I'm still curious to see what he'll get out of this setup.
Hooray for confirmation bias.
Holy hell. Another supporter of anti-intellectualism. The world needs less of your kind.hooray for completely missing my point:thumbsup:
No one cares about how right you are, go be right somewhere else and let adults discus what they what to discus without some know it all informing "us" of how wrong we are.
I'd argue that the majority — or at least the plurality — of system builders and enthusiasts are also gamers. So if you don't feel that games don't carry a lot of weight in a hardware discussion, you're delusional.Of course , they will tell you that you re abusively using too much
multithreaded benchs , yet they will come with ten different games
as being ten differents and unrelated softwares.....
what's your max stable clock on the cpu ?IDC: Bumped my fsb to 219 with multiplier remaining at 21. Effectively a 4.6 Ghz chip. runs well.
True Revenger. When I first built a 2500k SandyBridge rig I said WOW this is fast and still feel the same way. I bought a Bulldozer 8150 because I had an AM3+ mb and despite all of the negative reviews it ran fairly well. The PileDriver is a nice improvement over the Bulldozer.If haters would actually own an FX cpu they would find out they aren't crap and they aren't slow either.
Alias, I slowly keep upping the clock speed. The 4.6Ghz (219 x 21) is rock solid. I actually upped the cpu voltage slightly above 1.5 v and was able to boot into Windows 8 at 5 Ghz and run some programs but I would not consider it rock solid. With some more tweeks I think I could get my machine to 4.7 ghz Rock Solid.what's your max stable clock on the cpu ?
We've all seen a thousand Intel vs. AMD cpu benchmarks... Most of us know the advantages and disadvantages of each, and if not that should be in a different thread. Can't we leave it be and just let IDC do his thing and talk about that? I'm still curious to see what he'll get out of this setup.
"We" is not the right term...
Idc made overclocking reviews of intel Cpus in other threads where
no amd afficionados came to trash the topic , so the "we" should
rightously be changed to "they"....
IDC: Bumped my fsb to 219 with multiplier remaining at 21. Effectively a 4.6 Ghz chip. runs well.
True Revenger. When I first built a 2500k SandyBridge rig I said WOW this is fast and still feel the same way. I bought a Bulldozer 8150 because I had an AM3+ mb and despite all of the negative reviews it ran fairly well. The PileDriver is a nice improvement over the Bulldozer.
It truly is hard to convince some that the PileDriver, for its price, is a solid cpu.
Holy hell. Another supporter of anti-intellectualism. The world needs less of your kind.
I'd argue that the majority — or at least the plurality — of system builders and enthusiasts are also gamers. So if you don't feel that games don't carry a lot of weight in a hardware discussion, you're delusional.
you don't need to own the FX to get an idea of how it performs, there are hundreds of different tests available it's fast for MT (really fast for the money, core i7 level in many cases), IPC is lower but with high clock it's decent/good for ST (core i3 level in many cases), and the power usage is high compared to Intel, did I get something wrong?
I don't see people calling "crap and slow" here, just the "hater" guy...
it's a solid CPU depending on your use sure, as any other CPU can be, that's why relatively small differences or disadvantaged gain a lot of weight in these discussions,
I always considered a stable OC something which would have no issues with running something like linx for an hour, Prime 95 for multiple hours...
but I'm sure for some it's enough to run a game stable,
Well stable and "stable" are two different things . When you need your PC to do some serious work with some sensitive data(read valuable) I'd want to be 100% sure my OC is stable, for real. It's difficult thing to do since there is no real test to perform in order to be so sure. But a combination of several stress tests along with normal usage (day to day tasks) should be fairly close I suppose.
IDC: Having some minor eye surgery today so I'll try to get my BIOS specs for my 8350 to you by Friday.
Until I had one to play with first-hand, I too had this impression that not only would a 4GHz bulldozer/piledriver consume 600W but it would also perform like an Atom processor.
with the FX 8150 my original impression was quite negative, ST as fast (or slow) as a sandy bridge Celeron, "heavy MT" as fast/faster than the i5, but using twice the power and priced higher than the 2500k originally,
but we are talking about more than a year ago,
now AMD have Vishera with a solid performance increase and better pricing,
I still think the "hardcore gamer" would easily spot the performance difference in games like Starcraft 2 and others, but overall I can fully accept that most of the time there is no obvious difference in using any of these CPUs, but we could also extend that to a good old overclocked i7 920 from 2008 and other CPUs, and pricing is so close between so many of the options that we end up using some "small" differences and decisive factors,
I think the built in Winrar benchmark is also a valid tool!?
Winrar is probably by far the most popular file compression tool, and it scales well with additional cores/threads
Keep on with your enslavement to confirmation bias — you're a textbook case. I actually have made intelligent contributions to this thread. You'll never accept that, however.There's nothing "intellectual" , insightful, analytically unique or even down right worth while that you have posted in this thread. If you think my position is anti intellectual then I suggest you fit into the second half ofTrischmann's Paradox ^_^.
Given that:
I have a very good balance of work/life take responsibility for actually raising my children, have a reasonable amount of liquidity to offset my debt (let alone assets) and I don't over commit to things because someone else will let me. It seems to me if the US had more people like me then it might not be so financially messed up, unlikely yourself who's only note worthy addition it to shove your opinion down other peoples throats.
that's exactly what's needed!